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I just got the flu shot, how soon will I die?

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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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When will you die? Hard to say. Don't drink and drive. If you got the shot in a"poor" part of town, history shows that chances of death may be greater.
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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by gameoverforyou
It's nice you can make fun of your friend's autistic son and that the US uses the same tactics as the nazis. When you do die and all those people the US killed in the name of freedom and democracy judge you, remember laughter is the best medicine.


Actually if you read my post, you would realize it is my cousin that is autistic. And I am not making fun of the autism, I am making fun of alarmist theories.

Alarmist theories based on speculations do not really bring comfort to people affected by conditions. My brother almost died from spinal meningitis. If you have read my posts in other forums you would have known that I have Multiple Sclerosis, so I understand firsthand about wild theories, though well intentioned, that are not accurate and does not help.

The polio vaccine actually helped diminish the polio epidemic and small pox is making a comeback, but only in groups of people who have not had the vaccine. Overall, vaccines do help, but there will be people who do get sick from them. Doctors do not know why this happens.

This is a tough subject, but it is like nuclear power plants. Even though the risk is great, the benefits must be greater.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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How is the flu shot suppose to help you.? It is for last years strain. I would say you have the same mentality as avid smokers. Personally I don't care if you pick your own poison and could care less about how many years will be taken off you life. That is up to you. Just because you are in denial and want to ignore the dangers doesn't make people who do care all crazy.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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I was going to reply with something witty.
But you'd be dead already and would be able to read it.
So... say hi to my dad for me.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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You have until Oct 28th.
Good day.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Funny reading through the comments and the possible sarcasm in the original post. Assuming it's sarcasm. Here's a straight answer, the shot will help you not likely to kill you. It's the nasal spray you have to worry about luckily those aren't being used at the moment. Complaints of nausea caused by a preservative in the spray. The flouride in your water will ruin your teeth judging your tooth paste has flouride in it and you brush 2-3 times a day. To much flouride is bad so if in doubt, switch to a brand of toothpaste called "Toms." No flouride. All problems solved right there and aliens will not anal probe you in your sleep. I intentionally did not indent this paragraph for the purpose of annoying some people.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by rainyday
Funny reading through the comments and the possible sarcasm in the original post. Assuming it's sarcasm. Here's a straight answer, the shot will help you not likely to kill you. It's the nasal spray you have to worry about luckily those aren't being used at the moment. Complaints of nausea caused by a preservative in the spray. The flouride in your water will ruin your teeth judging your tooth paste has flouride in it and you brush 2-3 times a day. To much flouride is bad so if in doubt, switch to a brand of toothpaste called "Toms." No flouride. All problems solved right there and aliens will not anal probe you in your sleep. I intentionally did not indent this paragraph for the purpose of annoying some people.


Yes, it was sarcasm. I don't think other people caught that it was sarcasm, because as they say, sarcasm does not read well online. And your non-indentation did not bother me at all.

The part that I was not being sarcastic about was the nuclear energy statement. I was trying to tie that in with my post. There are some things we really have to decide what is beneficial for society as a whole and it is hard to make that judgment call. There are people who are helped by the vaccinations and there are people harmed, the same as nuclear energy. I appreciate that many cities rely on nuclear energy, but a meltdown can destroy a city.

I fully understand that vaccinations harm people but I also know that it helps people, so how do we as a society learn to effectively use the vaccines. I don't want to see one person harmed, but I also don't want to take away from someone who may be helped. What do we do as a society? That is a tough discussion with no clear answers.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by wWizard
You have until Oct 28th.
Good day.


Is that the day of the Zombie Apocalypse? I am no way prepared for that yet.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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take some cilantro, rids the body of mercury and other heavy metals.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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She got the flu shot.

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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You are playing Russian roulette with your health, adding doses of chemicals your body must metabolize out and stressing your system, you may not think you are feeling it but you are grinding down the quality of life and health you could experience if you are avoiding these low does poisons. Why risk it or make a joke of it.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by nitrobandit
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You are playing Russian roulette with your health, adding doses of chemicals your body must metabolize out and stressing your system, you may not think you are feeling it but you are grinding down the quality of life and health you could experience if you are avoiding these low does poisons. Why risk it or make a joke of it.


Did the polio vaccine help or not? Did the small pox vaccine help or not? These are things we have to think about. Let's say this, 500 people get polio vaccine, 497 are helped but 3 are not. Those 3 should have been helped, I agree. But if we said no, let's not do it and all 500 get polio, then we have denied help to 497 people.

That is the point I am trying to make. How do we help those that the vaccines are indeed a benefit for? We can't know beforehand whether or not someone is going to have a bad reaction or none at all. I get whole "public health scare", but I also know people who had polio when the epidemic hit. Their parents refused to have them vaccinated because of the same issues raised. They thought it was an intrusion on their private faith and way of life.

As much as I do not agree with the public health scare tactics, I also do not like the opposite health alarmism raised by critics. How do we weigh out the pros and cons? Nobody should get the flu shot because it harms others even though it may be beneficial to more? That is the tough call.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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So it's alarmist to say vaccines cause autism? I guess the former cdc chief (fired after she admitted vaccines can cause autism) is alarmist!

www.naturalnews.tv...

It falls under a huge umbrella of health and wellbeing called metabolic diseases, treated by metabolic therapy.



But go ahead, make fun of something out of ignorance. I expect from people these days who just love to laugh at people and their misery, thinking they're being so witty, such as the your pathetic attempt to differentiate between cousin and friend. I guess your cousin isn't your friend, hmmmm? Maybe not, after seeing how disgusting you made fun of his child!


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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by WarminIndy
I just got the flu shot yesterday. And I brushed my teeth with fluoride toothpaste and drank tap water. I want to know how soon it will be until I die. I say this because I hear all kinds of alarmist theories about the evils of such things.

When I was young I had the polio vaccine, the MMR vaccine, the small pox vaccine. Not the chicken pox vaccine but I had chicken pox when I was six months old. I have had all the other vaccine shots. I am not autistic, even though I have a cousin who has a son that is autistic. I am able to come on ATS and question the validity of government brainwashing through our tap water.

So now tell me, how soon until I die because of the flu shot?


Dude you don't joke around about things like this....what a stupid post...I nearly did die...go check my posts as i can't be bothered yet again to tell my story...but your post is derogatory as it mentions tap water in same context- why?...I almost took this post to be a joke... and pun and very stupid!...doh? are you on something?...what a totally evasive and nonchalant post...like uh anyone taking bets?...you will be fine you moron!.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by UniverSoul
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only when a treatment proof disease that has mutated due to use of modern pharmaceuticals comes along
its a matter of when not if


That is a misunderstanding of how evolutionary biology works. It is not the treatments that cause the mutation. The genetic mutation occurs as a result of any one or more of many mutagenic factors like gamma or ultraviolet radiation, environmental toxins, etc. Lifeforms are constantly mutating. Some mutations might allow, for instance, a bacterium to survive a certain type of antibiotic. That bacterium survives and can pass on that mutation to its descendants, allowing them to survive. It's like a lion hunt where the hunters can kill all the dumb lions, while the smart ones escape and eat a hunter. The hunter didn't get eaten because dumb lions got shot.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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For those who think I am making fun of the child..let me quote my original statement...

"When I was young I had the polio vaccine, the MMR vaccine, the small pox vaccine. Not the chicken pox vaccine but I had chicken pox when I was six months old. I have had all the other vaccine shots. I am not autistic, even though I have a cousin who has a son that is autistic. I am able to come on ATS and question the validity of government brainwashing through our tap water. "

My cousin has no valid or comforting answers to why her son is autistic. By my questioning the theories of what causes it means I am making fun of it? Certainly in no way.

Ok, this child was born this way. Two other children living in the same home who received the same vaccinations are not autistic. Please do not misunderstand what I am asking here. Why one out of three? Not every child who receives the vaccination becomes autistic.

But we have people who say "don't get this, don't get that, because we have a video of someone who was affected".

Throughout my thread I have asked the simple question, what do we as as society do to help those who would benefit from the vaccines without causing harm to those who may be affected by them?

Can we at least think about this question?



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by WarminIndy
For those who think I am making fun of the child..let me quote my original statement...

"When I was young I had the polio vaccine, the MMR vaccine, the small pox vaccine. Not the chicken pox vaccine but I had chicken pox when I was six months old. I have had all the other vaccine shots. I am not autistic, even though I have a cousin who has a son that is autistic. I am able to come on ATS and question the validity of government brainwashing through our tap water. "

My cousin has no valid or comforting answers to why her son is autistic. By my questioning the theories of what causes it means I am making fun of it? Certainly in no way.

Ok, this child was born this way. Two other children living in the same home who received the same vaccinations are not autistic. Please do not misunderstand what I am asking here. Why one out of three? Not every child who receives the vaccination becomes autistic.

But we have people who say "don't get this, don't get that, because we have a video of someone who was affected".

Throughout my thread I have asked the simple question, what do we as as society do to help those who would benefit from the vaccines without causing harm to those who may be affected by them?

Can we at least think about this question?


I suppose a good start would be to list all the chemicals used in each vaccine then do a comparison to known alergens. Second step would be to have every person wanting the vaccinations take a allergen test. This is a tough one because there are so many uncommon alergens it's really all trial and error. When people get shots they just need to pay attention to thier health, any quick changes, seek medical attention. Thousands die every year because they ignored thier symptoms. Not sure what else to say, been thinking about this question since my previous post. lol
About your cousins child, I was reading a article about autism possibly being reccessive. If I can find that article again I'll link it.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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Yes, that would make sense to at least list the chemicals. We have to do that with food already so I don't see why we should not do that with medicine also. Even bottled water has to show the ingredients. You have made so good points there.

#1 List the ingredients of the vaccines.




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