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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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I think I am detecting a bit of sarcasm, is that correct?

But rather than calling people liars (not that you are. I'm just saying in general...) here's what often happens:





It's called selective attention!!! It's not deliberately done. It's how our minds have been conditioned![
edit on 30-9-2011 by Human_Alien because: spelling




posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by TWILITE22
reply to post by pshea38
 
Was that video shown on television?if so I have to say from someone who knows nothing about video editing birds would not have flown through the thick black smoke,nor what looked like through the top of the building.Don't get me wrong, I believe some of the footage shown was faked.I'm not convinced of the no plane theory.Something flew threw the buildings,planes or military craft of some sort.Not looking to debate this just wanted to comment on your video.




All collision and collapse footage released was preprepared movie effects cgi. Detailed
analysis has proven this to be the case. The birds were digitally included to add a sense of
reality to the faked footage. Look at how similar the twin towers collapses are to the building
collapse seen below from the movie Independance day!


Here is a snapshot from the same movie!


I hope that more can wake up to the fact that we were treated televisually on 9/11 to one of
the biggest hoaxes/cons in history.
There were No terrorists, No planes and few if any victims, most being computer generated
identities with no basis in reality! Shocking I know, But true nonetheless.

Media Fakery is Their Modus Operandi and the perpetrators have the full cooperation of
the lapdog upper echelons of the Main Stream Media.
The conspiracy is Huge.

9/11 Video Fakery
Media Fakery Forum

All you need to know about 9/11 can be found in the above links.
Bon Chance



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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TextIt's how our minds have been conditioned

ahhh yea...i see,your not lying about that,lol



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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All collision and collapse footage released was preprepared movie effects cgi.

Wow! All those persons running for their lives were running away from CGI! What morons, huh?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Some people in the Czech-speaking community in NYC had copies. Hlava gave out a few and then they shared them around in the usual way. Mostly just circulated them among themselves, I mean.

On that basis it wouldn't have been hard for the FBI to get a copy, too, I guess. Any Czech expats would have to be on a list somewhere... But seeing as the FBI could obtain a copy from ABC anyway, there seems little doubt that they got one through some source.


It still begs the question as to why there was an FOI request for a tape, when copies of it were available outside of govt alphabet agencies.

Mike



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Teebs
I'm taken aback by some of the reactions in this thread. Fake video?

I want the truth, nothing else. I don't think the government is giving us the truth about what happened on that day.

That being said, the people who claim these videos are 'fake' have no idea what they are talking about. I work with video/audio effects, compositing, etc., and I just don't understand what exactly people think is fake. Sure, audio and video can be manipulated - but I don't see or hear anything that would suggest this video is anything other than what it presents itself to be: real aircraft slamming into real buildings, videotaped by real people.


Seriously??
Well explain this.


And I am sure many here will eagerly await your explanation, you being a professional.
I say that the whole thing is CGI.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by canadiansenior70
 


I didn't say this was your story but you are helping to peddle it by telling us to 'consider' yet another theory on another website (whose links no longer work)

So I have to believe that you MIGHT buy into that 'other theory' a little bit otherwise you wouldn't have bothered to mention it.


I have nothing against you per se so please chill



By the way, if you look 1-second into the video, you'll see a big red truck. And although I have no idea as to the firetruck theory (seeing I couldn't open any links) that might cast some light on what might've been reflected in another cars window (or something like that)



Numbskull! Think! Reflected in the rear windshield of the car ahead! In the video. Just something someone pointed out becasue it was said they were in an SUV.

No way the red truck up the highway is taking this video of everything, including his own vehicle.

Kids!! **shaking my head**
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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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I say that the whole thing is CGI.


And the people on the ground looking up? Are those people fake also? Are they in on it? Really, you can't possibly believe anyone is going to fall for this load of crap, do you?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by JustMike
reply to post by Human_Alien
 

Some people in the Czech-speaking community in NYC had copies. Hlava gave out a few and then they shared them around in the usual way. Mostly just circulated them among themselves, I mean.

On that basis it wouldn't have been hard for the FBI to get a copy, too, I guess. Any Czech expats would have to be on a list somewhere... But seeing as the FBI could obtain a copy from ABC anyway, there seems little doubt that they got one through some source.


It still begs the question as to why there was an FOI request for a tape, when copies of it were available outside of govt alphabet agencies.

Mike




Yeah. I agree. Which segues (and off topic) into why the Pentagon-Hotel-gas station tapes haven't been released? I know there were very weak excuses er, I mean explanations that most didn't contained the 'strike'.

Even at that, I personally would still like to re-capture the day that changed my life forever, regardless!! I think I have a right to see all confiscated videos now that were 10 years older! I think I'm 'mature' enough now


I don't know if it's just me but I harbor more resentment and anger towards my OWN government than any foreign enemy on this planet. To me, Washington and the UK are the number one terrorists.

Sorry to go off topic again.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

What's even MORE brilliant is how at least seven of those 'guys' are alive and deny involvement.
Now that's not only brilliant that borderlines on miraculous.

But I know, another thread-another time for that debate


Join the discussion. Ping those that you disagree with and resurrect the thread. It has been debated to death over the years. Study the Martyrdom tapes?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

TJ



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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OH GOD,AFTER 6OCLOCK.
HERE COME THE...'SKEPTIC PEOPLE'
CGI HUH!!!!!!!




posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by hooper
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I say that the whole thing is CGI.


And the people on the ground looking up? Are those people fake also? Are they in on it? Really, you can't possibly believe anyone is going to fall for this load of crap, do you?



Shhhhh. Quiet now. You'll wake the sleeping.

I think the CGI people hang on to that because that's the most intricate, fascinating and dramatic explanations to date.
A lot of people reside in virtual-reality cyberspace worlds these days especially Gamers. So I wouldn't be surprised if the 'CGI/no-plane' demographics are males between 15-40 years of age.


My brother, a Wall St trader, saw the second plane close up and personal. And although my brother DID vote for Bush in 04, I have absolutely no reason to doubt his vision.
Sanity? Yes!
Vision? No!



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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@4:00 on the video sounds like celluar comunications are knocked out in the vicinity. Hmm? Could something like this cause reception to cease or did TPTB knock it out?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

But please (didn't mean to go off in a tangent) answer me this: Why would they want or need to fake this? What was their purpose or ultimate goal?
That is the one major question I am not understanding (seeing I believe/know two planes were involved that morning in NYC)

Thanks



All video released was faked CGI! These are not real witnesses with real footage.
It is a movie with flaws, just like all the rest. The same people produced All the Video!
Don't get hung up on the planes/no planes. Once you realise that you have been conned
into treating faked footage as genuine, the no planes actuality falls into its logical place.
Look how many witnesses with immediate media connections were direct and swift (on live tv)
in endorsing the 'Plane' myth immediately after the attacks on 9/11, at all locations.
Not in the real world, i tell thee!
This Is One BigAss FudderMucking Conspiracy.

9/11 Video Fakery



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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There doesn't seem to be a jet fuel fire going on after the second impact. Just wispy light grey smoke.

The cameraman is at a distance from his companions at the time of impact. He just keeps shooting and then calls out to "Mike", after he's got the shot.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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While I'm no expert, I'd assume that after the first plane hit it knocked
out the juice to the cell tower on the roof. The remaining cell service
was overloaded I'm sure.
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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Okay, you know what?....because I have NO idea what you're referring to in reference with this firetruck etc (because I wasn't able to watch ANY of the videos) I just assume drop further banter.

I am 99% convinced that this foreign tourist was minding his own business that day and just so happened to capture historical footage. Consider this Czech-dude the modern day Zapruder!

I don't dig that deeply for conspiracies because ordinarily, they present themselves. I just don't see it here.

So, thanks anyway. Sorry you feel I'm a numb-skull but I'm just a person having a hard time relating to what you're saying for several reasons.


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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by Teebs


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I'm really not sure about the no plane theory but in this video why does the left wing looks like it disappears before hitting the tower?and the same wing doesn't hit the tower either
..I'm really confused here...whats up with this video?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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In a city like new york I am sure there are plenty of different carriers on different buildings. Your saying that these guys on your video are comparing signals and it just so happens their cell tower is on the twin towers?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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As I said I'm no expert on cell towers & how they're operated, distributed, etc.
So are you saying that the video I posted is fake CGI & all the people in it are
disinfo agents?



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