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The Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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As a Traditionalist Conservative, have you read some of the other Founding Fathers, such as Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franiklin concerning their views on education and race?
If not, maybe you should.




posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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Americas government belong to Goldman Sach and JP Morgan do you know that most of the positions in the government financial advisory panels are Goldman Sach alumni.

Wake up people from the Federal Reserve, to the Treasury department and most central banks are all run by Goldman Sach men.

Americas have not longer a government run by the people but by a corrupted version of capitalism, that wants to keep the nations tax payer as slaves while they rob the nation dry.

Research, read learn and find out exactly what goes on in government, none of our presidents are socialism or communist they are all capitalist.

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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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I cant believe they put number 22 in there.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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Similar protests are being organized in Toronto by the IWW. They are postering for it at the boundary of the entertainment and financial districts. I would assume that they're active in this as well, and that a "New York General Assembly" really has been formed, is forming. The protests, if run by professional protest-organizers, are attracting crowds of the unaware and disgruntled public to shield this revolutionary vanguard from the police. The core protesters are likely coming in from different parts of the country and so they will arrive in waves to add their voices to the assembly. It appears to me that all of the symptoms of a revolutionary assembly being held are evident. This is a subtly organized mass-assembly of the workers of North America. I am sure that there are UK and EU workers there, in small numbers.

If this assembly was not planned by some conspiracy of the unions bosses of the West then we are seeing an example of a spontaneous revolution by the proletariat, as predicted by Marx. One group decided on a date for a protest against Wall Street, and this time there was so much anger against the corporations that the protest may be reaching critical mass. However, I don't see how this can succeed to be anything more than an era-defining moment that spawns the New Left, an urban, cosmopolitan social movement strong enough to counter the New Right represented by the Tea Party. Good enough for me!



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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The only people that will oppose these protests are rich people. People always say money doesnt make people bad but the worst of all people have no shortage of money. It is good that they protest but the whole country should protest for the step down of the formal Government and a rewrite of the constitution. We take our country back by storm and force. In a few days these protestors will be called violent and arrested for some trumped up charge. The free in freedom comes with a fee also.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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This stuff is absolute madness if it continues to get larger.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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I understand the rich keep getting richer and all that stuff.All the power and greedy banks and whatnot.I do not trust this movement.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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Those people need to get some microphones and speakers. I'm surprised no local churches have come forward to offer their own equipment. They also need to organize and appropriate a leader or this cause will disappear by next week. This is exactly what the corporate pirates want, they are just waiting out the crowd because they know it will eventually die down without a clear and present goal and leadership amoung the people.
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The church is controlled by the rothschilds



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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There are places on this planet, believe it or not, were education is free. You must maintain a grade point average to be admited and to stay. Why can't they do this here? Because they have fat pockets. And instead of using our taxes to investing in our future they invest in their present, and wars for profit and to advance only an select few.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by teotwawki77
The only people that will oppose these protests are rich people. People always say money doesnt make people bad but the worst of all people have no shortage of money. It is good that they protest but the whole country should protest for the step down of the formal Government and a rewrite of the constitution.


And what exactly is "wrong" with the constitution?Except in that; it is not being followed today..(patriot act.etc...)


Originally posted by teotwawki77
We take our country back by storm and force. In a few days these protestors will be called violent and arreted for some trumped up charge. The free in freedom comes with a fee also.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by teotwawki77
The only people that will oppose these protests are rich people. People always say money doesnt make people bad but the worst of all people have no shortage of money. It is good that they protest but the whole country should protest for the step down of the formal Government and a rewrite of the constitution.


And what exactly is "wrong" with the constitution?Except in that; it is not being followed today..(patriot act.etc...)


Originally posted by teotwawki77
We take our country back by storm and force. In a few days these protestors will be called violent and arreted for some trumped up charge. The free in freedom comes with a fee also.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by michaelmcclen
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#6 Free Education for all (basically)

well as I see it education and learning is the backbone to evolution, and if your stopping the poor from evolving their cognative ability and only allowing the rich to access the knowledge because they have the cash, then you are discriminating on the basis of socio economics!

Keeping the rich in high powered jobs and the poor cleaning their offices!
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While I am not a liberal by any stretch, I also agree that higher education needs to be free or at least affordable to everyone, and not through grants to certain people because they are minorities. That is discriminatory.

I have no idea how you'd do it, or who would pay for it. All I know is that there are a LOT of people out there who WANT to go to college, who COULD contribute to our society, but who are unable because of the COST. Imagine all the university administrators who make $150k a year, and there are lots of them at every big university - what do they do to earn that kind of a salary?

The current system is keeping this country stupid.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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My concern is if all hell breaks loose and people get hurt/killed, the people will never have a voice. Just like the media haven't given them a voice thus far, they won't give them a voice to defend themselves if things go south. The NYPD and Mayor will get the final word and pin all blame on rouge protesters. If they do, they will be cherry-picked plants or impostors claiming to be part of the protests.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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The only way it will make a difference is if they actually occupy the trading floor at the stock exchange and bring trading to a halt. It wouldn't hurt to trash the servers and backups for the exchange. Early in the week so it can spread world wide. Keep the exchange down for weeks.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by michaelmcclen
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#6 Free Education for all (basically)

well as I see it education and learning is the backbone to evolution, and if your stopping the poor from evolving their cognative ability and only allowing the rich to access the knowledge because they have the cash, then you are discriminating on the basis of socio economics!

Keeping the rich in high powered jobs and the poor cleaning their offices!
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I deeply resent these statements...


Why do people feel so entitled?? If you're not willing to work hard, take on huge amounts of stress and responsibility and put in long hours, why should I have to.... just to pay for you to go to school?!

What makes this country great is that everyone is born with the same potential. I'm not talking about being born into wealth or poverty because neither are a guarantee in life. I'm talking about making solid choices and working your butt off to better yourself. Some of the most successful and educated people on the planet are people who were born with nothing and by making wise decisions and working hard, now enjoy a higher station in life.

The whole foreclusure thing does stink, my heart goes out to those who have lost everything, and I support any wall street rabble rousing group if nothing else just for the sake of creating change.

But lets keep in mind NO ONE is keeping anyone from educating themselves. There are libraries in every city, with thousands and thousands of books free to use to better yourself. If these people crying foul had spent some time in the library researching the way mortgages work, and how to comprehend a contract maybe they wouldnt be in this predicament ya think?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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Post from Croatia : We all share same sad story, UNTIL we decide to change it !! Therefore, I and probably, at least million of other Croatian people SUPPORT that protest ! Don't ever give up ! It's time to get this fight !!

Take care, stay beautiful !!



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by 46ACE

Originally posted by teotwawki77
The only people that will oppose these protests are rich people. People always say money doesnt make people bad but the worst of all people have no shortage of money. It is good that they protest but the whole country should protest for the step down of the formal Government and a rewrite of the constitution.


And what exactly is "wrong" with the constitution?Except in that; it is not being followed today..(patriot act.etc...)


Originally posted by teotwawki77
We take our country back by storm and force. In a few days these protestors will be called violent and arreted for some trumped up charge. The free in freedom comes with a fee also.


Well the constitution did not even acknowledge black people as people was founded 200 hundred and some odd years ago and obviously doesnt work. If it did government wouldnt continue to abuse it and keep making laws on top of other laws. It was worded just so that the codes could be deliberately manipulated for those in power.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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There list "grievances" is a list of ill-informed opinions. Opinions.

Again, we have indignant kids with a poor understanding of reality protesting an enemy that exists only in their minds.

When I see things like this I can't help but think that the 50+ years barrage of progressive propaganda has successfully warped entire generations into a mindset of class warfare, entitlement, and seize-there-assets style communism.

All of these things have a similar philosophical thread:

Entitlement = I exist therefore I am owed (money, healthcare, education, etc).

Class Warfare = Rich people are rich because they stole the money, so let's steal it back! (Ignoring the facts of economics)

Communism = Politicized class warfare with a side of entitlement!



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by spaznational
There list "grievances" is a list of ill-informed opinions. Opinions.

Again, we have indignant kids with a poor understanding of reality protesting an enemy that exists only in their minds.

When I see things like this I can't help but think that the 50+ years barrage of progressive propaganda has successfully warped entire generations into a mindset of class warfare, entitlement, and seize-there-assets style communism.

All of these things have a similar philosophical thread:

Entitlement = I exist therefore I am owed (money, healthcare, education, etc).

Class Warfare = Rich people are rich because they stole the money, so let's steal it back! (Ignoring the facts of economics)

Communism = Politicized class warfare with a side of entitlement!


I agree with you man.This is unreal and is the result of to much progressive policies.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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I know many people that support these protesters, and they do not have communist leanings. They are a mix of Republicans, Democrats, and Libertarians that want our country back from these NWO order stooges that are running the show.

Wall Street, the Mega Multi-National Corporations and OUR Government are not for serving the people in this country anymore, but for expanding their power and control over the rest of the world in one big circle jerk, where they alone are the ones that benefit.

Wall Street makes a lot of money via foreign investments thanks to governmental policies, and it is those emerging markets that is their gravy train. The other 99% in America will have to buckle up and do with less as they phase out pensions, social security, and many other decades old programs, so that they can have more.

If you want to see how Wall Street and the Government are not two separate entities but are one in the same, then do some reading. In a sense, the marriage between the two is communistic where the government, wall street and mega corps are one calling the shots.

Look at who is running the show in the revolving door between Wall Street Banks, Mega Corps and Government.


www.businessinsider.com...
THE REVOLVING DOOR: 29 People Who Went From Wall Street To Washington To Wall Street


The list of Wall Streeters who have ended up with government jobs, and vice versa, is long.
Some would argue that the incestuous nature of the relationship and the revolving door between Washington and downtown Manhattan is dangerous........


wallstreetwarzone.com...


Wall Street’s #1 “Investment” = 100 Senators, 435 Congressmen & 261,000 Lobbyists, Then CEOs Get Huge 100:1 Payoffs, Taxpayers Stuck With The Tab!


therealnews.com...
10 Lobbyists Per Member Of Congress Fighting Effective Finance Regulations


If your for our current system where the top elite control everything, then you would be as far away as possible from a free market capitalist system, and closer toward a communist or fascists system as can be.

Voting for Ron Paul, and shrinking the government to 5% as well as Wall Street would cause a lot of the leeches at the top to fall. They require a big government in order to exist.


Of course, I have run across a few people that are against the protests, but on further discussion, they revealed their true nature, in that they have MONEY in the stock market so, they would support the Big Banks on Wall Street regardless of what ideologue they adopted.





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