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Originally posted by Misoir
I agree with all of the 22 points except these; 3, 6, and 22.
3.They have perpetuated gender inequality and discrimination in the workplace.
This is just another complaint by people who want more affirmative action and forced equality of pay. If they had their way government would violate private property rights in an area the government has no right to be involved in.
6.They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
Since when is education a human right? I recall that natural rights are inherent for all people, meaning that it is an independent thing which is separate from the operations of others. Education is a service, you do not have a right to any services, but you do have a right to be free to pursue an education.
22.They have participated in a directly racist action by accepting the contract from the State of Georgia to murder Troy Davis.
I am so tired of hearing people beat these old drum. Everything is racism; “you looked at me wrong, racist!” Just shut the hell up about it.
These three things are just so tiresome and would push me away from these protests. Right now they (protestors) just seem like a joke to me, I would not even waste my time with these people. Yes these people (elites) should be punished for their crimes against humanity, violation of our natural rights, conspiracy to form a global governance, and treason against the Republic. But do we really need to drag in these cultural issues which will certainly alienate Conservatives such as me. How about just leaving it as a protest against the treasonous elites?
Just for some reason I do not trust these protestors, I do not know why it is just something I feel.
“There are persons who constantly clamor. They complain of oppression, speculation, and pernicious influence of wealth. They cry out loudly against all banks and corporations, and a means by which small capitalists become united in order to produce important and beneficial results. They carry on mad hostility against all established institutions. They would choke the fountain of industry and dry all streams.” - Daniel Webster
edit on 9/29/2011 by Misoir because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheThirdAdam
First let me say that I think that this whole thing is very misguided and seems to have no consideration for the collateral damage that it cause if they actually did accomplish their goals.
Second, I can't help but notice how easily this movement could be hijacked to serve a much more sinister purpose.
Anyone else seeing what I'm seeing here?
Originally posted by ForeverDusk
I don't know if I can support these protesters. Some of them seem not so much upset at the government as they are upset at capitalism, the greatest economic system on this green Earth. Too radical for my tastes. What we need is a real people's rebellion.
Originally posted by NoAngel2u
I really think that list is too long. Those are the details,,, the symptoms. They are covered in one overriding corruptive influence within our political system. Money money money.
They should have remained focused on that one KEY building block of corporatacracy. Gotta pick your battles and prioritize. I don't mean toss the list, but to determine a primary objective and hammer it. You will likely get more people on board with a more narrowed focus that most everyone will likely agree with, than with a list of demands that everyone will argue about.
Originally posted by jenk1013
reply to post by NoAngel2u
Totally agree NoAngel2u. There are way too many demands/issues being presented here.
Not to mention the fact that most Americans have the attention span of a fly and won't even be willing to take the time to read and truly understand the message. Why not just sum it up as you said? END CORPORATOCRACY RESTORE DEMOCRACY. Easy, simple, non-divisive message. I don't think there is anyone other than the 1% elite who would be against that.
edit on 29-9-2011 by jenk1013 because: (no reason given)
Occupy Wall Street has recently come into the media spotlight, not because of our political message, but because certain high-ranking members of the NYPD punched, threw, and stepped on peaceful marchers. Arrestees were handcuffed so tight their hands turned blue. Many of these people have yet to regain feeling in their extremities. A senior police officer infamously forced women into pens and maced them at point-blank range. While we vehemently condemn these abuses of power, we urge all who read this to remain focused on our intended message. Abuse of power is abuse of power. Whether perpetrated by Wall Street bankers or members of the NYPD, it is the duty of all citizens to oppose injustice. We condemn the actions of unprofessional police who used excessive force in subduing a peaceful march. But we are foremost here to oppose the growing power of the ruling class.
Let us also be clear that, when approached as individuals, members of the NYPD have expressed solidarity with our cause. It has been inspiring to receive this support. Over these thirteen days, we have learned that no one supports corporations’ disproportionate influence in the political sphere. We have learned that no one is in favor of evicting struggling families to the street while banks continue to profit. No one, that is, except the corporations and banks. We urge members of the NYPD to remain in solidarity with our cause. These men and women could lose their pensions and benefits during the next round of budget cuts. We ask that members of the NYPD treat all peaceful human beings with respect and care. This will be a great step towards reclaiming power for the working class. Those who profit off the suffering of others will held accountable. We are the 99%, and we are too big to fail.
Tonight we march to One Police Plaza.