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LAS VEGAS: was this city built in Tribute to Aliens from VEGA ?

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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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OP, thank you for the entertaining and well thought out post. It maybe a bit on the speculative side of things that are possible but this is the kind of stuff that brought me to and made me join ATS. S&F for you. I like the theory. The truth is stranger than fiction. Who knows... anything is possible. You may have hit the nail on the head. I approve and anyone who says it's b.s. without any proof that it isn't is just as ignorant as those who believe wiki is the final authority on facts. Oh wait... I'm comparing apples to apples. Still a great theory.




posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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I don't see a connection beyond the name similarity. Its just not plausible to me.

And as for Bugsy, yes, the Mafia and the CIA have been in bed, but the Mafia make poor pawns at best. Years of inbreeding have done them no favors.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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Hi Existenz99 and thanks for the S&F ! I have never sought or worried about such a tribute but it does help when there are many posts radically opposing so much as the possibility of an conspiracy existing. I find it hard to swallow that in a country such as the United States of America, where prohibition ruled for years and where even today it is forbidden to even drink a beer in many States when you are under 21 years of age, that the entire nation would be behind or tolerate the existence of a SIN CITY which thrives only on vice and rampant gambling, promiscuous deviant sexuality and every other measure of illegal activity relabeled as Fun and Liberating!

It is far more plausible that Las Vegas gained its tremendous development for entirely different reasons and that the Aura of Vice is only used to camouflage the smell of sulfur possible emanating from underground facilities? I speak metaphorically here, I must specify, lest I gain a slew of posts and links pointing to air quality in that city and providing maps of its sewage system... lol.

This very bizarre situation of a SIN CITY in a country with a very active Bible Belt spreading across its southern States, and puritan in many other regions to the point where people shun any visible nudity in advertising or television, not to mention schoolbooks, makes one wonder what's up?!?

It is not plausible that Las Vegas is just a Mafioso City of Vice gone off into a tailspin, or that city simply being a Family Entertainment Destination where the kids can have fun in Game Arcades while Daddy is off watching Strippers or paying off whores for 'special services', something I find to be altogether preposterous as a valid business model or even as a pressure outlet for too rigidly stressed out members of normal society. Of course it can be used to film and blackmail those who stumble into that city unaware that they CIA is running things and customarily uses blackmail to force people to become complicit with its operations.



Originally posted by GringoViejo
I don't see a connection beyond the name similarity. Its just not plausible to me.

And as for Bugsy, yes, the Mafia and the CIA have been in bed, but the Mafia make poor pawns at best. Years of inbreeding have done them no favors.


Gringo Viejo,

I am no longer alleging that any Aliens associated with Las Vegas as a "Terrestrial Staging Base" are from the Vegas star system, something you will see in my preceding posts. However this doesn't mean that the rest of my assumptions are necessarily false. It is still very possible that Las Vegas does operate as a logistical platform to house employees and provide entertainment for the military troops used in underground bases, similarly to the bordellos customarily run by the military establishment more or less officially to relieve their soldiers' physical urges during lengthy military campaigns or assignments. Locating highly controlled prostitutes who also sever as spies of those who use their services, reporting back on anything which might have escaped their clients' lips, is an extra security measure for top secret operations, enabling rapid response in case of risks of leaks. Otherwise it could just be considered a 'job perk' for the soldiers or other government personnel detached to such bases.

Casinos, it is well known to anyone having studied or researched this activity area and even better known to anyone having worked there at any level of responsibility, serve primarily as money laundering mechanisms. Their location in Las Vegas enables the laundering of illegally gained monies through drug trafficking, white slavery, prostitution, human organ sales, kidnapping and slave trade, blackmail and any number of other illicit activities.

Casinos also enable secret payoffs which are tax exempt, disguised in the form of gambling gains for whoever is designated to win. This is how they make secret payments in broad daylight to those who engage in illegal transactions with the Secret Shadow Government or their affiliated corporations or spy agencies. A few Joe Six-Packs will from time to time get highly publicized gains of huge jackpots to better disguise this central purpose.

Yes, you are correct that the Mafia and the CIA have been in bed for a long time, and that the Mobsters are not always selected on the basis of their cleverness or highly developed intellectual capabilities. But then again their profession doesn't requite much mental footwork at all. And assuredly they are more often than not "played" by the intelligence agencies they collaborate with because the latter have far more resources than them and are able to "take them out" entirely at a moment's notice with little effort. So the Mafia is entirely subservient to the Black Ops of agencies, serving as low end executioners or 'bag men' when they aren't simply a cover front for what is actually an agency operation... FWIW.

GS



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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The first is that we know that the city of Las Vegas was built in a very unusual place in the Nevada desert, very far from any sources of water which are usually considered essential for locating an large population center.


WOW... I'm a Vegun (not to be mistaken as a vegetarian)... Las Vegas, population 1+ million, for how long now? at least a decade. What EXACTLY sustains it?

Did you think to consider sub terrainian sources of water when considering Las Vegas? Well it just so happens Vegas sits on top of one of the nation's largest fresh water alluvial deposits... Right next to Pahrump - naturally. Imagine this: Those really large caverns discovered in Vietnam... They haven't found a way to access what's under Vegas (unless it's military, naturally), but I'll guarantee you it's comparable.

Stories of Underground Wonders do however filter in every now and then. Oh, don't forget about both the Hoover and Coolidge dams... and the great big river known as the Colorado River, which flows only 35 miles away.

Here's something to wonder about... just north of Vegas, there are areas of desert that completely fill with water, revealing - during the spring thaw - a lake risen from the earth that encompasses hundreds of square miles... Where the heck did that come from?!
Well, naturally it's spring thaw from the Sierra Nevada and surrounding ranges that filters down into Amargossa Valley.... Home of MOOOOOO - Anderson Dairies WOW - that's green!

The water table here in Vegas and surrounding areas at that time is roughly 4 feet below the surface. dig 4 feet and watch the pond form, fill, then overflow.... just below the Caliche rock.

Sorry, there was always water here, that's why the mountain range that runs to the west of Vegas is called the SPRING Mountains... it's loaded with spring water pockets that flow year round.

SECONDLY, the name Las Vegas is older than even the first Mormon Missionaries who came here - yup, named by the Spaniards because they were here before us and mined the silver and the gold before us.

Las Vegas in Engles means "The Plains" - well watered grasslands - not beep beep beep (it's for you agent 99) Vega Aliases from the other get smart episode (lol)

sorry, lol, I had fun, hope you did too. Education at it's finest... carry on.

Edit to Add:

HOWEVER.......

If you refer to the ALIENS from below the border then... YES, BY ALL MEANS LAS VEGAS IS THE HOME OF AND LAUNCH PLATFORM FOR THEM ALL - thanks Arizona!!!


edit on 1-10-2011 by Heyyo_yoyo because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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edit on 1-10-2011 by StarPeace because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 07:17 AM
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Hi Heyyo_yoyo

It seems that you didn't really bother to read beyond the first post... or maybe even beyond the thread title?!? before formulating your response - or you would have noticed that the subject of the origins of the name of Las Vegas had been overturned and that there has been a great deal of insider whistleblower information about the presence of Aliens within airplane commute distance from Las Vegas, lending it a geostrategic logistical location as a dormitory and resource reallocation platform for Military Black Ops in the larger region.

Also, it is easy to make jokes about immigrants of Hispanic origins when mocking a thread, and I find it interesting that a person participating in the UFO and Aliens section of a conspiracy forum would claim that the only aliens around are illegal immigrants from neighboring countries. This is a typical Debunker tactic and while I find your skill level too low to imagine for a moment you might belong to any government disinfo affectation it seems clear that you are not in this forum to participate constructively. So thanks for posting constructive info appropriate to the ongoing discussion which you had the courtesy to read and respond to rather than making unsavory jokes about impoverished people who seek a better destiny in the USA, a vocation inscribed on the Statue of Liberty FYI.

There are numerous accounts of Alien activity near Las Vegas, to cite only one here is the account of the presence of tall WHITE GREYS at Indian Springs Nevada only some 50 miles northwest of Las Vegas near the location of Creech Air Force Base, as per the following links:


"Charles Hall enlisted in the Air Force in 1964. After completing weather training school, he was sent to Nellis Air Force base in March of 1965. During the two years he was stationed there, he says, “I spent most of my time as the duty weather observer at the gunnery ranges up at Indian Springs. And while I was up there, I discovered that there was a base that the U. S. government maintains for a group of aliens that I call the Tall White Aliens.” Hall details his encounters in a three book series entitled Millennial Hospitality."

Charles Hall and the Tall White Aliens


Google map of Indian Springs

Beyond this eyewitness account from Area 54 there is the well known presence of Area 51 due north of Las Vegas as well as many other accounts of an Alien presence and of UFO activity within a short airplane commute of Las Vegas - making my analysis of this city as a staging ground for broader DUMBs and Black Ops military projects in the region a very plausible theory.

GS



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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you're my hero GS! >8D

I thought I'd just drop by and remenisse another thread we shared not too long ago, That one was fun too


About aliens and that sort, I do fly Janet Alines from time to time... and know all about black, triangular aircraft that fly silently.

I think the Indian Springs thing is actually connected to alot of the really wierd people that live in the desert out there... and walk everywhere from Beatty to Primm...

walk.

That'll make for a really thin white alien - ya think?

Either that or they may have been escaped convicts...
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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P.S.:


Beyond this eyewitness account from Area 54 there is the well known presence of Area 51 due north of Las Vegas as well as many other accounts of an Alien presence and of UFO activity within a short airplane commute of Las Vegas - making my analysis of this city as a staging ground for broader DUMBs and Black Ops military projects in the region a very plausible theory.


So... you're interested in Underground and Covert Operations, right? I'll give ya a lead:

Nellis AFB. Sunrise Mountain. Apex. New Electrical Substations. Nellis Test Range. FRESH roadwork.

The key is in the Mountain behind the air base... Think NORAD.


Connects to Three links: New Mexico, Hawthorne, China Peak.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by Heyyo_yoyo
P.S. So... you're interested in Underground and Covert Operations, right? I'll give ya a lead:

Nellis AFB. Sunrise Mountain. Apex. New Electrical Substations. Nellis Test Range. FRESH roadwork.

The key is in the Mountain behind the air base... Think NORAD.


Connects to Three links: New Mexico, Hawthorne, China Peak.


Hi Heyyo Yoyo,

Thanks for slipping us a few leads. Either you're somehow directly or indirectly connected to these operations and must tread lightly, or you like to entertain suspense or enjoy a good poke at fun?

In any case this area has been brought up for quite some time as being implicated in military operations as well as hosting Aliens. Here is another source which does mention a similarly situated location not so far from Las Vegas - in fact the very same base you mention..:


"The US government’s first direct, face-to-face contact with aliens occurred decades ago, when grayish skinned human-alien hybrids crashed near a New Mexico airbase.

After the US military concluded that the aliens probably had some human genetic composition in them, US officials scrambled to develop safeguards against a stealth intervention on this planet by aliens of unknown origin.

The intrusion of aliens with advanced technology and capabilities occurred at the outset of the Cold War, which compelled Truman’s government to guard information about aliens as a military secret. For over four years, Truman had direct control of the US government’s alien-related programs.

However, in 1953 President Eisenhower let Nelson Rockefeller re-design executive security structures.

Rockefeller ended elected official control of alien-related programs, a move that Eisenhower later regretted. Multiple former official witnesses say that within months, aliens were allowed basing rights on the Nellis Air Force range. Subsequent secrecy of alien-related programs allowed crime to proliferate within them, unchecked by rigorous public oversight."


Determining Human Relations with Aliens by George LoBuono


Apparently this disturbed Eisenhower and possibly brought him to issue us a warning about our Earthly affairs being taken over by some Alien Agenda through the Military Industrial Complex...



This would tend to support the likelihood of Las Vegas being a staging location for many operations meant to bring resources and launder monies for Black Ops supporting an Alien Agenda. How much is in alliance with them and how much is in opposition to them cannot be known to us at this point of our research, but a link is definitely present in this geographic location.

GS



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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There is the possibility that Aliens from the star system VEGA might have interacted with US Government officials at a time where it became important to establish a base of cooperation


Two major problems with that claim;

1) The Vega system is still very young (1 tenth the Sun's age approximately) so it's highly improbable that life could have existed there for long enough to advance to the level of interstellar travel. (unless they moved there from somewhere else)

2) You seem to assume that beings from a star system 25 light years away would have the same name for it as we do.

Having said that you are correct about it's proximity to known hotspots of activity which has roused my suspicions somewhat.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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Hi Titor86,

I may have not been very clear in this thread about the fact that I have abandoned the claim that there might be an association with the Star System Vega, sufficient demonstration having been given by other posters here that it was indeed named far before the day of UFO's becoming a prevalent phenomenon - if you don't subscribe to the Aliens vs. Cowboys syndrome - and because Vega was apparently a commonly used geographic name used by Mexicans prior to its development as a city.

However that error in interpretation may have brought an unexpected benefit, to alert me to a possibility. Which is that Las Vegas is not what it is presented to us as. It is not primarily designed to earn the Mob money through Casinos, but to launder money through Casinos. And while the Mob may be associated with this money laundering nonsense, it is under the auspices of the Secret Service agencies of the Military Industrial Complex and their associated corporate connivances.

Therefore it is not Sin City primarily, although it does engage in a blatant display of Sin. It is primarily used as a staging ground for Military Black Ops as well as probably to concentrate the US's Alien Relations with any number of extraterrestrials or ultraterrestrials housed in underground cities or DUMBs in a radius going as far West as the Sierra Nevada California, as far North as Salt Lake CIty Utah as far East as Roswell New Mexico or Denver.Colorado and as far South as south of the border between Arizona and Mexico. FWIW

GS


edit on 4-10-2011 by Getsmart because: they aren't just gamblers but probably agents, operatives or bag men for black ops!



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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So... you're interested in Underground and Covert Operations, right? I'll give ya a lead:

Nellis AFB. Sunrise Mountain. Apex. New Electrical Substations. Nellis Test Range. FRESH roadwork.

The key is in the Mountain behind the air base... Think NORAD.


Connects to Three links: New Mexico, Hawthorne, China Peak.


Is this what you were referring to when you mentioned SUNRISE MOUNTAIN?


UFOs filmed above Sunrise Mountain on October 8th, 2010


UFO close-up image


Original Film Footage

Thanks for letting us know if this is the incident you were referring to with respect to Sunrise Mountain or is your experience or revelation something altogether different?

Getsmart



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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So... you're interested in Underground and Covert Operations, right? I'll give ya a lead:

Nellis AFB. Sunrise Mountain. Apex. New Electrical Substations. Nellis Test Range. FRESH roadwork.

The key is in the Mountain behind the air base... Think NORAD.


Connects to Three links: New Mexico, Hawthorne, China Peak.


You mention APEX.

I have only found a handful of things which might relate to that, one is a track of land near a Las Vegas power plant, another is a bulk commodities transportation company which might service underground bases or cities. Finally there is the Apex electronics industry annual event which possibly brings into civilian use alien technology?

Apex Electronics Expo

Apex Bulk Commodities

Land in APEX Industrial Park on APEX Power Plant Parkway


Driving times to Las Vegas


Apex along Cana-Mex Highway


Apex northeast of Las Vegas


Apex in Clark County Nevada


Apex Las Vegas GLVAR Lot 2


Thanks for letting us know if this is what you were referring to with respect to APEX or is your experience or revelation something altogether different?

Getsmart



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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So... you're interested in Underground and Covert Operations, right? I'll give ya a lead:

Nellis AFB. Sunrise Mountain. Apex. New Electrical Substations. Nellis Test Range. FRESH roadwork.

The key is in the Mountain behind the air base... Think NORAD.


Connects to Three links: New Mexico, Hawthorne, China Peak.


You mention NEW ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS.

Is this what you are hinting at?


The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) has finalized a $343 million loan guarantee, supported by the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, to develop the One Nevada Transmission Line (ON Line) project. The ON Line project, which is jointly owned by Great Basin Transmission South LLC and NV Energy, consists of a new 500 kV AC transmission line that will carry approximately 600 MW of electricity, including from renewable energy resources, in northern Nevada. "As our country increases its use of alternative energy sources, new transmission lines like the ON Line project will play a vital role in moving clean energy from one region to another," says Energy Secretary Steven Chu. The ON Line project will run 235 miles from Ely, Nev. to just north of Las Vegas, with a new substation located at the northern end of the line. ON Line represents the first phase of the Southwest Intertie project, which, when fully completed, will carry approximately 2,000 MW of electricity and enable wind and solar resources in Wyoming, Idaho and Nevada to power the Southwest and California markets. Project sponsors estimate that the ON Line project will contract about 85% of its parts and labor from U.S. companies and will create approximately 400 construction jobs.

February 16, 2011 – DOE Finalizes Loan Guarantee for New Transmission Project



Thanks for letting us know if this is what you were referring to with respect to NEW ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS or is your experience or revelation something altogether different?

Getsmart



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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So... you're interested in Underground and Covert Operations, right? I'll give ya a lead:

Nellis AFB. Sunrise Mountain. Apex. New Electrical Substations. Nellis Test Range. FRESH roadwork.

The key is in the Mountain behind the air base... Think NORAD.


Connects to Three links: New Mexico, Hawthorne, China Peak.


You mention FRESH ROADWORK.

This is the most recent info about this, and I wonder if you could be more specific?

NEVADA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ROAD CONSTRUCTION SUMMARY OCTOBER 9, 2011

Thanks for letting us know if anything shown here is what you were referring to with respect to FRESH ROADWORK or is your experience or revelation something altogether different?

Getsmart



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 06:35 PM
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So... you're interested in Underground and Covert Operations, right? I'll give ya a lead:

Nellis AFB. Sunrise Mountain. Apex. New Electrical Substations. Nellis Test Range. FRESH roadwork.

The key is in the Mountain behind the air base... Think NORAD.


Connects to Three links: New Mexico, Hawthorne, China Peak.


You mention 3 links: New Mexico, Hawthorne, China Peak.

We all know that New Mexico is home to DULCE, and the California Sierra Nevada is reputed to house an underground city so this is presumably where you come up with the China Peak reference? Hawthorne Nevada is a town located due Southeast of Reno and Carson City and across the mountains from China Peak as can be seen in the following Google Map.

China Peak California on a MAP

If you trace an East-West line you will find a relatively good alignment between China Peak, California, Area 51 in Nevada and Dulce, New Mexico. This happens to be an odd alignment given their respective Alien Housing attributions and the fact that each is considered to shelter deep underground facilities probably linked to one another by some sort of high speed gravitational underground trains.

Thanks for letting us know if anything shown here is what you were referring to with respect to the 3 items you allege are linked, and do you mean to say that there is an underground network linking these three locations? Is it some other place in New Mexico such as White Sands near Arizona and the Mexican border? Or is your experience or revelation something altogether different?

Getsmart


edit on 9-10-2011 by Getsmart because: them Aliens are crawling about under our feet waiting to take over the planet ! ! !



posted on Oct, 9 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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To better figure out what's actually going on down under our feet in these underground bases or DUMBs, here is another description quoted from the same Bibliocycapades sources as before.


The Tall White aliens that airman Charles Hall says were ceded a small base on an Indian Springs, NV Air Force range circa 1954 (one year after the Rockefeller coup) reportedly have pale whitish skin, stringy white hair, and oversized eyes. Hall’s story is partly corroborated by three other airmen who served on the base. Michael Wolf told researcher Chris Stoner that parts of a Gray alien craft that crashed in the ocean west of San Diego in 1941 were shipped to the same Indian Springs, NV air base. Charles Hall published four books about his encounters with the Tall Whites from 1965-1967, when he was stationed at Indian Springs. In writing that’s earnest and restrained, Hall notes that Tall Whites had been allowed on the base since 1954, or perhaps earlier. A Las Vegas Review Journal article stated that three and a half years after the Roswell crash, in January of 1951, the small, secondary Indian Springs base announced it was spending $300 million to build base housing. According to the MeasuringWorth website calculator, $300 million in 1951 was equivalent to $2.4 billion in 2008. The question is, why would a small, diversionary airfield like Indian Springs spend so much to build housing?

Charles Hall reports that the Air Force provided Tall Whites with excavated living quarters and a large hangar that housed the 350 foot-long interstellar craft used to ferry Tall Whites between their place of origin and the Indian Springs base. Hall was never told where Tall Whites came from, originally, but he heard that they may have an outpost near the star Arcturus. Hall says the Tall Whites were coldly business-like and prone to violence when they felt threatened. They carried pencil-shaped devices with various settings that could be used to stun, cause pain, or kill a human. The estimated 200-300 Tall Whites on the base were apparently organized in terms of a military hierarchy. The Air Force reportedly allowed Tall Whites to kill enlisted airmen who frightened them, even though enlisted men weren’t briefed about the presence of Tall Whites on the range...

The Tall Whites’ arrogance mirrors the behavior of Tall Grays that human abductees have seen ordering shorter Grays around on alien spacecraft. For that reason, some analysts suspect that Tall Whites are affiliated with the Gray alignment. Hall is certain that ranking Air Force brass provided support for the Tall Whites. A four star Air Force general from the Pentagon regularly met with and gave the Tall Whites whatever they needed, apparently in exchange for limited technological help. Hall saw Air Force generals return from distant, hours-long trips with Tall Whites on their antigravity craft...

But who are the Tall Whites and where did they come from - what are their origins? Hall suggests that Air Force generals thought the Tall Whites were near-enemies of the Grays. Hall: “I am quite certain that the Tall Whites and the Short Greys hate each other. I am quite certain that the Tall Whites would never permit the Short Greys to come anywhere near their base areas or near to their housing areas or anywhere that their children might be playing, etc.” But what is Hall’s basis for that assumption? I asked him, and he replied, “I was with the Tall Whites for over two years. Various remarks were made, and in particular, the Teacher (a Tall White) made the point quite clear to me.”

Hall says Tall Whites didn’t share their secrets about antigravity technology but did tell Air Force brass how to create a nuclear thruster device. Ironically, former Air Force intelligence officer and defense contractor Edgar Rothschild Fouchè suggests that aliens either gave or lost nuclear thruster technology to the US military, which was then used on a triangle shaped craft called the TR-3B.

For his part, Charles Hall saw abundant evidence that Air Force officials provided Tall Whites with supplies and parts used to build small, oblong-shaped scout craft. One investigator living in the Las Vegas area told me he saw an oblong-shaped scout craft flying when he camped near Indian Springs during recent years.

In sum, in 1954 - just one year after the Rockefeller coup, Tall Whites may have begun to trade aviation technology to Rockefeller-related aviation interests, technology that went to a newly separate Air Force.

Tall Whites were allowed a base on US soil under what appear to have been false pretenses: they pretended to be anti-Gray. And if that’s the case, then Tall Whites may be a prong of the Gray alignment that was used to gain the confidence of, then deeper penetration into, US defense circles.


This excerpt shows that there has been both housing and exchanges between the US military interests and Aliens in Nevada near Las Vegas, justifying the use of this city as a HUB.

GS

edit on 9-10-2011 by Getsmart because: LINK: Aliens in Nevada



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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While any Alien connection to the name Las Vegas has been debunked earlier in this thread, there is a story where a Moon Base occupied by Aliens is called VEGAN.


When odd reports are received through official channels stating that the President of the United States is being held captive on a secret international moon base called Vegan and that he has been replaced on Earth by a clone, the US Marshall Service immediately sends their 'best' man, Dix, on the mission.

Dix travels to Vegan to rescue the president, but is quickly duped and ends up returning to Earth where he installs the clone-president and removes the real one. The bumbling Dix must then find a way to restore the real president before aliens take over the Earth, and restore in himself a belief in truth, justice and the American way.



2001 A SPACE TRAVESTY

This is of course a SPOOF but it wouldn't be the first time where the Illuminati or TPTB use fiction and especially goofy comedy or cartoons to reveal their plans or to describe their operations to newbies. Regarding the allegation that the President of the United States was cloned by Aliens, read the thread in my signature. Enjoy!

Getsmart



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 01:57 AM
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Hi Toxicsurf;

Glad you gave your neurons a stretch, it helps to walk the brain regularly.

Thanks for your constructive participation in this thread which, whatever you may have assumed, was not designed to exercise your grey matter.

GS



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