It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

LAS VEGAS: was this city built in Tribute to Aliens from VEGA ?

page: 2
3
<< 1    3  4 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:37 PM
link   
Vega star system debunked?

The account of Kit Carson and John Freemont's adventures, if it can be verified as original and authentic, may well put to rest my allegation that maybe there was an interstellar connection with the VEGA star system. This is found here, and is in character seemingly authentic in its account of their rest at the place referred to as Las Vegas:


"And on May 3: "After a day's journey of 18 miles, in a northeasterly direction, we encamped in the midst of another very large basin, at a camping ground called Las Vegas -- a term which the Spaniards use to signify fertile or marshy plains, in contradistinction to llanos, which they apply to dry and sterile plains. Two narrow streams of clear water, four or five feet deep, gush suddenly with a quick current, from two singularly large springs; these, and other waters of the basin, pass out in a gap to the eastward. The taste of the water is good, but rather too warm to be agreeable; the temperature being 71 in the one and 73 in the other. They, however, afford a delightful bathing place." It was all Fremont would write about the location that would become Sin City.

Putting Las Vegas on the Map


Yet this doesn't de facto eliminate the theory according to which Las Vegas would be a staging ground for an Extraterrestrial presence on earth and for potential complicity between stellar aliens with the US Government and/or the Industrial Military Complex. This aspect of the theory remains intact unless similarly debunked. FWIW


GS




posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:44 PM
link   
Most of what is tested out there is highly advanced like I said. if they allowed their secrets do you really think you would be SAFE! i dunno what weird link your trying to find with las vegas but to each his own. i can't keep debating the closedminded its my way or highway mentality its trying and useless have a great day.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:47 PM
link   
.. Someones been watching to much ancient aliens!


This is all highly opinionated.. And seems like a case of looking for something that is just not there.. Vegas was built by the mob.. Therefore Vegas was built in tribute to the "All might holy dollar bill"

Vegas was founded on the dream of becoming rich..fast Enough said.. I suggest you look up Bugsy Siegel.. and the Flamingo the founding casino of Vegas.. Then you might have a Actual idea as to why Vegas exists today..



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:50 PM
link   
reply to post by TechVampyre
 


thats a hilarious picture



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:53 PM
link   
reply to post by Getsmart
 


after reviewing my thoughts and reading your posts, ive come to the conclusion...
... that you are linking the two purely on a name basis i.e las vegas/vega
and then trying to find any kind of theory that would put aliens in the 'strip'
i applaude your effort but your stretching the imagination way too far



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:55 PM
link   
Get smart,

Your moniker should be a sign for those who think all official stories are the actual story. Remarkable how people feed back "bugsy put it out there because it was illegal..." but the fail to see that gambling was happening all over AND he could have done it anywhere at all - especially a place far more convenient. Why bother to imagine that he was TOLD to do it by others and simply took credit for the effort, for those who choose to remain hidden. The again, the story is the story - like the gulf of tonkin etc.

That said I'll speculate with you. Two things come to mind, the are is riddled with radiation from nuclear testing - St. George a short distance away is hell for it. So it makes little to no sense to build something this vast in a radiation zone, unless you need it to be radiated for some reason - aliens temperament might require it. Regardless, once the testing started, people should have fled, but the didn't, why?

The second thing is the money. Huge amounts of money were and are dumped there - given to scum bags who simply take the money for a rigged chance at NOT losing - there is no winning. So much money in fact that the mob guys who started it should have been far richer then they seemed to be. I would suspect that the system was set up to get large sums of money - cash, and put that into places like area 51 (either alien craft research or a place where they build, in secret, a great number of devices designed to annihilate the population at will - super cool right? Oddly enough, we never see such devices as we still fight wars with bombs and guns, so where is all the super killing stuff?). The boom in black ops seemed to coincide with the big boom in Vegas. I suspect there are a lot of systems set up to pilfer money for such purposes. Before the morons jump in, the mob will be allowed to do what they do as long as the kick money up to the unseen, the unseen the put it into black ops, while pretending to hate the mob and the mob claims it is all for them - though they seem to have very little money.

My guess is that some off planet folks do frequent the area for energy feeding and other odd experiences that the nature of the place allows them to blend in. Who really notices the freaks around all the freaks?

As for Vega System, could be, though I don't recall coming across any information making them a major player here - though they might be, I do doubt it so that may be a connection without too much merit.

Keep thinking, it is what separates you from the believers all the original stories, like the USS Liberty, 911, the fall of Iran, the ouster of Chile's elected president, and on and on and on and on.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:56 PM
link   
reply to post by Getsmart
 





The first is that we know that the city of Las Vegas was built in a very unusual place in the Nevada desert, very far from any sources of water which are usually considered essential for locating an large population center.

The official founder of this city was a mobster known as "Bugsy" Siegel who was said to be somewhat crazy





"Bugsy" Siegel was said to be somewhat crazy


I think your own OP clears up why the location was picked...

Insanity makes you do the damnest things...
For example logging on to ATS everyday



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:00 PM
link   
oh my gosh i think i fould the link between Las Vegas and vega and the aliens he speaks of

www.karmabox.com...

www.zazzle.com...

www.cmmitraining.com...






posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:03 PM
link   
reply to post by MissCoyote
 


it wasnt that far from water........lake mead is a cool drive bout 20 miles outside the fremont center.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:09 PM
link   
reply to post by Getsmart
 


and as far as no water near bye is false.........the springs reserve (link included) as been santioned since vegas created, That was their water and btw its only been open to the public since I think it opened in 2005 its down the street from the Government building.And about a five minute drive from the strip.

www.springspreserve.org...



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:38 PM
link   
Hi Miss Coyote,

That's funny and I'm all for a good laugh, even at my own expense when it is justified and in this case it very well might be, insofar as your successful debunking of my likely erroneous tie-in of Vegas with the Vega star system. However, even if incorrect, this did lead me to consider certain things which I certainly wouldn't have thought of. And just like in medicine, where many medications are discovered when seeking something entirely different and discovering that there are benefits elsewhere one hadn't expected, that presumption may have led to something which is not at all erroneous, namely the function of the city of Las Vegas as a logistical platform and Black Ops money laundering mechanism for operations of the Military Industrial Complex. And while it probably was incorrect to attribute to the Vega star system the identity of potential Aliens, who might collaborate with government spooks in secret programs, on the simple basis of similarities in nomenclature, this doesn't mean that the same scenario is possible with another group of extraterrestrial visitors such as those with whom American Presidents from Roosevelt to Eisenhower are alleged to have struck technology deals?

GS



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:46 PM
link   
The mob's gambling capital used to be Cuba. When Castro came to power, he kicked the mob out. The mob chose Vegas as its new gambling capital, and it was then that Vegas really started to take off.

As for Area 51 - "Location. Location. Location." It's a million miles from nowhere. It's surrounded by mountains. Nuclear tests had been performed in the area. It was radioactive, both literally and figuratively. Say what you want about Area 51, but it's the perfect the location to play with toys you don't want people to know about...or, at least, it was.

They're two different places that were established for two different reasons. They may have some ties to each other today (i.e. the daily flights out of McCarran Airport), but at present there's no reason to think that it's anything but incidental. However, I will acknowledge that future discoveries may prove differently.
edit on 9/29/2011 by DarthChrisious because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:46 PM
link   
Hi Cranky Old Man,

Thanks for joining the discussion and connecting those neurons in a wider array than most visitors here...

There is something about the official line regarding the creation of Vegas as a paradise for the mob which I find hard to accept. Sure, there is the arguable premise that it was created because of Nevada's diminutive population and the absence of legislation, even if gambling did happen to be prohibited in Nevada in earlier days. And there is the convenient takeover of Cuba by Fidel Castro - this was used to justify the Mob creating a new gambling center on the US continent. That the CIA was tied in with the mafia, Lucky Luciano has even been outed by the CIA archives as having been an operative, makes much of that story less easy to buy into. Castro started out working with the CIA before "allegedly" turning against them. His very unlikely survival to this day is even harder to believe. For we are told that the CIA is incapable of killing a third world leader, when such political assassinations had become the basis of their tradecraft for decades.

There is such a deluge of communication about Vegas as being a place to go to, that one cao only wonder. For example there is only one company running the commercial airport, owning all the services and restaurants there. This is a unique situation seldom if ever found in other airport locations. Is this because they are part of the Mob and the airport was allocated to them as "their territory"? Of is it because it is part of a tight knit control mechanism where much of everything going on is closely supervised?

Regarding nuclear testing, could some of the explosions have been used to dig out underground caverns to house visitors? There are many potential questions we are entitled to ask, and if we prefer not to then nobody is stopping anyone from believing that it's all about having some giant cocktails and going from Casino to Casino in a Hummer limo.... LOL

GS


edit on 29-9-2011 by Getsmart because: something smells rotten in Las Vegas



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 10:42 PM
link   
Las Vegas was built to make money for gangsters.

No ET.
edit on 29-9-2011 by mbkennel because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 04:05 AM
link   

Originally posted by mbkennel
Las Vegas was built to make money for gangsters.

No ET.


That's just like saying that banks were invented to make money for banksters.

LOL.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:43 AM
link   

Originally posted by Getsmart

Originally posted by mbkennel
Las Vegas was built to make money for gangsters.

No ET.


That's just like saying that banks were invented to make money for banksters.

LOL. [/qu


edit on 30/9/11 by SecretKnowledge because: nah im not gonna bother



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:59 AM
link   

Originally posted by Getsmart

Originally posted by mbkennel
Las Vegas was built to make money for gangsters.

No ET.


That's just like saying that banks were invented to make money for banksters.

LOL.


Which is exactly what they were invented for.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 12:04 PM
link   
That the shadow government has been digging underground tunnels or DUMBs in various locations, many of which are within commute flight distance from Las Vegas, has been the subject of heated debate within many conspiracy forums including ATS. To many such intense secret activity, potentially in alliance with non human entities. has been widely perceived as a betrayal of their oaths of office or of service, and there are "Oath Keepers" to set that right.

Black Ops funding does not only come from stolen government budgets and semi-official sources but also by secret service agency involvement in drug trafficking and any number of other types of illegal activity traditionally the reserved turf of organized crime. They have thus become "THE MOB" which has set up Las Vegas and who use this location as a housing facility and logistical base for their projects while laundering their illicit funds through their Casinos. Here is Phil Schneider's account of the cost of building and running their underground bases which are only a part of their covert operations thus funded:



He happens to know what he's talking about as he used to work in digging these underground bases and has a story of his own experience, which happens to include not just the Las Vegas based NSA/MOB funding of these bases but also includes the alliance of the Government with Alien Entities.



GS


edit on 30-9-2011 by Getsmart because: something down there smells of sulphur



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 12:05 PM
link   
reply to post by Getsmart
 


I thought Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel built it for Mafia $$$$$$$$$$$$
edit on 9/30/11 by Ophiuchus 13 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 12:29 PM
link   
The Mafia have been in cahoots with the CIA for close to a century now, and became more deeply associated during the US invasion of Sicily during WWII. Today we have a Kleptocracy running our government affairs along with their Bankster friends among whom there are a number of complicit companies such as Morgan Stanley to name only one. Some are full subsidiaries of the CIA and operate scams on the financial markets. The ruling Elite have been using share price volatility for ages to make money and the rise and to ruin people on the fall, that's how Joe Kennedy increased his assets one hundred fold during the great depression thanks to insider information, Those who pull the strings are those who clean up, today with even more volatile products to speculate on and manipulate.





top topics



 
3
<< 1    3  4 >>

log in

join