reply to post by felonius
You wonderful unions are communist sympathizers at the top and ambivalent sheep (at best) at the bottom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep regurgitating the BS that has been drummed into your head. Oh... I just got it. In real life you are management. Now it
Y'all are nuts. Without the Unions we would all be in much worse shape than we are now. The same people that put in the Fiat Currency, removed the
Gold Standard, smuggled the NAZI war criminals into the US, ushered the NAZI war criminals into the Republican Party, filled the CIA with Bonesmen and
oil men, castrated Israel time and time again while they proclaimed publicly they were Pro-Israeli, and told you that Communism is evil, are the same
folks who spewed all the BS about the Unions. And it is BS. Our Granparents - ok I am getting old now - Great Grandparents knew the value of Unions,
why don't we know it now?
You see the problem when you start to cut through lies is that you cannot see through a mere handful of lies and think you have done something.
Seeing the truth is an all or nothing proposition. You have to begin by throwing out everything you have been taught by your sainted mother and your
honorable father, and the teachers who molded you, and then as Thomas Jefferson mandated you must "question literally everything." You must decide
for yourself what is true and what is false. This requires cancelling your T.V. service and doing what very few people actually do; read! Then you
must investigate what you have read. It is a very long process, but if you do not do it this way, if you accept anything you have been told even if
only out of laziness, you shortchange yourself. This includes religion. Indeed the motto that I chose for my now defunct website was; "Nothing is
as it seems" and nothing could be truer.
Unions, capitalism, communism, corporations, all these systems are only as good or bad as the people who comprise them. What has been held up as
examples of the horrors of communism - China and Soviet Union - are just two corrupt versions of something close to communism. Communism, if it is
done correctly is an economic system which eliminates the the have's and have-not's. There is no class system in true Communism, no monied class
directing the masses. Therefore when the corporate spin doctors branded unions as communist organizations what they were really comparing it to was
corrupt totalitarian governments practicing a bastardized form of Communism, not communism in it's true form. But I ask you, are not the same folks
that have drilled us to hate the unions because they do not want to pay a fair wage or cut profits for safety concerns, the same folks who have put us
where we are in America today?
Unions have made mistakes and carried things away to excess at times, but this in no way negates the history of what they have done for all of us,
although much of what the unions rid us of is beginning to creep back in these days. A check of history will reveal this to anyone who looks
honestly. How many of you have worked as "contractors" so that you could get the job you needed, when if the union had been there you would have
received all the benefits that were due you and you could not have been cut loose like an old rusty boat just as soon as it profited them a nickel to
Some of you guys act like you really do trust the corporations to provide well and fairly for it's workers when the only evidence we have shows us
the opposite to be true 99.9% of the time. We see them scheme to save money at the cost of their workers so often that today it would be a newsworthy
surprise if a corporation stepped up and did right by it's workers.
History is a necessary knowledge if you are going to discuss anything intelligently, not the least of which is what we are going through financially
today. Indeed almost everything we are going through todayare things we as a country experienced in the years that led up to the Great Depression,
although because of inflation the numbers are much higher today. But this is so only because of inflation. The trouble with our going through it
today is that what took decades to experience then is happening all at at once today.
From a historical and personal point of view Jimmy Hoffa was a national hero and treasure, and I am glad that Jimmy Jr. is trying to live up to his
fathers legacy. God bless 'em all. Their fight is the little guys fight, not for entitlements, but for a fair shake. That's all it was about
then, and that is all we want now. What could possibly be clearer?