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Who really assasinated John F. Kennedy?

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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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Files show lee harvey oswald actually shot and killed J.F.K on November 22, 1963 but i do not believe this. There seems to be some truth about the 35th presidents assasination but there also seems to be untruthful things. There is evidence that J.F.K and his brother was killed by mobsters in that time. The mobsters had them killed due to problems J.F.K and his brother was causing them. Who knows the real story of what happened?




posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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Other theory's are .......

The driver, multiple shooters from the grassy knoll, The Mafia, The neo cons for the new world order,

I think this speech had a little to do with it...


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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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Aww man that's a WHOOOOOLE (rabbit hole) thing so deep the truth will NEVER be revealed. Jim Marrs is a good place to start and there's a guy on here who posts threads that are amazing. Some of the stuff is quite shocking actually. Search for Bobby read that thread then get the guys user name and look at his other threads. Absolutely quality.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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I actually think it was the mafia. Lee harvey oswald actually had mob ties. I think there was more then one shooter but only lee got caught.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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If you are interested I would recommend you read the threads by our JFK specialist, Rising Against

link to profile to see threads
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I have never seen better research



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

THis is the guy OP, Rising Against. He needs to put all this stuff into a series of books!! Videos and all!!

Edit: sonofa.... Highlander64 beat me to it... Star for being quick Mr 64
edit on 28-9-2011 by R3N3G4D3 because: Edit because I was slow



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by demonologist842012
Files show lee harvey oswald actually shot and killed J.F.K on November 22, 1963 but i do not believe this. There seems to be some truth about the 35th presidents assasination but there also seems to be untruthful things. There is evidence that J.F.K and his brother was killed by mobsters in that time. The mobsters had them killed due to problems J.F.K and his brother was causing them. Who knows the real story of what happened?


I would suggest you read the thorough posts by Rising against. He made a fantastic post on this topic and has much knowledge as it's a personal interest...
Fraid you might find he is the 'guru' on this topic and you could be repeating yourself....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Go search as there's so much info there...and I have not listed all his threads...He is an excellent source of info on this topic



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by demonologist842012
Files show lee harvey oswald actually shot and killed J.F.K on November 22, 1963 but i do not believe this. There seems to be some truth about the 35th presidents assasination but there also seems to be untruthful things. There is evidence that J.F.K and his brother was killed by mobsters in that time. The mobsters had them killed due to problems J.F.K and his brother was causing them. Who knows the real story of what happened?


Sorry to be rude...forget anything until you've read ALL of Rising Against posts...and it will take you a while...I agree with my ATS friends on here it is so thorough he should be putting it into a book....



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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I also believe it was the Mafia, probably with some help by the certain elements inside the CIA. Joe Bonnano says in his memoirs that it was Johnny Roselli who fired the kill shot from a storm drain in front of the motorcade. He might be lying, but Roselli, along with Sam Giancana and Santo Trafficante were known to have been working with the CIA to assassinate Castro. These same mafiosi are implicated in the Kennedy assassination along with Carlos Marcello in New Orleans.

The anti-Castro angle brought these men in contact with the David Ferrie group where they found Oswald as the patsy. The CIA was also involved with this group. The CIA insiders aided them by giving intelligence on the route, getting the shooters in and out (the hobos), making sure Oswald was the only suspect, made sure the investigation went nowhere.

Why did they do this? The three bosses may have asked for the President's assassination as payment for the Castro assassination. The Mafia is known to do this: ask a favour for a favour.

There are so many other factors and theories but I'm leaning towards this because it's pretty basic and doesn't involve a shadowy organization commandeering Western society. People tend to blow things up bigger than what they are.

This is my opinion from having read many books, websites, movies, news articles on the subject.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:40 PM
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I second...
third..
and fourth...

...the RA threads (Rising Against), beyond phenomenal research!!
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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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I think Jackie did it. She was sitting right next to him, after all



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK. The grassy knoll is just a red herring. From what I believe.

Harvey was shot before he could spill the beans. By Jake Ruby. Ruby loved JFK apparently so it prolly didn't take much to get him to kill Oswald. Just had to be at the right place at the right time. He was already pissed at Oswald for the death of JFK, all that was needed was an idea to be put into his head.

I believe Oswald was suppose to get paid after the Assassination but it didn't go through. No money exchanged only promises. No paper trail and the one person who could have blown the lid was shot before trail.

Again this is just my take on the conspiracy. I do think JFK was Assassination was more than one lone nut. As the Warren report still fails to give a motive.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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It could have been almost anyone. I watched a documentary on him a while back, on TV, and I never knew before what a horn dog he was. They brought up all his mistresses, and if there was a spy from whatever country around, it seems he was doing her. China, Russia, Germany, etc. He had women from everywhere, as well as Marilyn.

Jackie certainly would have had good reason, but they were keeping such an eye on his mistresses, my money is on the CIA. They were talking about how much they learned from Marilyn, and knew he did a lot of talking when he was drunk. They also said they were really worried about Marilyn, because she was somewhat naive and they thought she would repeat stuff he had told her.

The documentary was a few months ago, I don't remember the actual name of it.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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why has no one mentioned the fact that he was about to get rid of the federal reserve, make aipac register as a foreign agency, and investigate israel's nukes? he already started distributing the silver certificates and LBJ put a stop to all of it as soon as he got into office.....you don't think the people who OWN the money would kill a president to keep him from taking their ownership away??????? think again....


"give me a countries currency and i care not who makes it's laws" quote from amschell rothschild....



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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it was you and me

sry



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.


Personally I disagree and It's, for the most part, for one simple reason - It's very unlikely Oswald, at the time of the assassination, had even left the second floor employees lunchroom. Oswald was seen as late at 12:15 on this second floor lunchroom by a women called Carolyn Arnold. This being 10 minutes before the limousine was said to arrive (It was running 5 minutes late and reached Dealey Plaza at approximately 12:30), now with-in less than 2 minutes (I could be mistaken but I believe it was around 80 or so seconds) after the assassination had taken place a police officer by the name of Marrion Baker had already ran into the building, stumbled across Oswlads boss Roy Truly who then directed him up the building, before finally stumbling across Lee Harvey Oswald on the second floor employees lunchroom "calmly drinking a coke" - this being the same lunchroom he was seen in before the assassination and of course now after it.

We know for a fact witnesses saw "someone" in the snipers nest in the minutes after the assassination and we know for a fact the weapon was incredibly well hidden. Since we also have multiple witnesses who claim to have seen 2 figures in the snipers nest prior to the assassination, for arguments sake we'll assume one was Oswald and the other was an accomplice who hid the weapon for him leaving him the simple task of traveling down the building - but the problem for this theory is we also have witnesses inside the building who traveled down it in the aftermath of the assassination and none reported seeing Oswald. Now let's go back to Marrion Baker - Is it really possible Oswald managed to travel from the 6th floor of the building all the way down to the second floor, without being seen by a single witness remember, and then have time to pour himself a coke, catch his breath and collect himself after just murdering the President of the Unites States? Now even I don't have to tell you how unlikely that is... and let's not forget his very short time limit to achieve this feat.

So you see In my personal opinion Oswald never left this room during the assassination - he was seen before and after it had occurred after all - and if he did then he certainly didn't travel up the building. Oh, and in case you was wondering, the elevators were jammed in the building at the time of the assassination. It's actually for this reason that Baker and Truly ran up the building as opposed to taking the elevator - Oswald couldn't have taken it also.

Now don't get me wrong here, there's really no doubt, in my mind anyway, that a shot or multiple shots did indeed come from the TSDB, but It certainly doesn't seem to be at the hands of Oswald. And this certainly doesn't seem to be the only shooting location. I mean 3 shots off in 5.6 seconds (this being the earliest time where the car actually came into view in the first place) with a piece of junk like the Mannlicher Carcano Rifle? Sorry but It's incredibly improbable. It seems multiple weapons from multiple locations (perhaps the Dal-Tex building or the Grassy knoll. Maybe even both.) were what really happened. Oswald himself isn't a great shot after all. He was even teased for his shooting ability by his peers while serving (And yes he did serve - these hardly being the actions of a supposed communist).

The FBI conducted tests on November 27th, 1963, this being 5 days after the assassination, and their team couldn't even manage the time Oswald supposedly set for them. Tests using real expert marksmen are the only tests that can seemingly achieve the same results.. and Oswald was certainly no expert marksman. He was far from it. So sure you may be right and Oswald could've been a shooter... but I, for one, certainly doubt it and the above is a quick insight into why.




I do think JFK was Assassination was more than one lone nut.


A statement echoed by some members of the Warren Commission itself would you believe. Hell, even John Connolly and his wife Nellie (she was in the best position to see after all) refuse to believe the single bullet theory.

A quick note to the other posters in this thread: I really do have to say thanks for the kind comments from members and to those who linked to my threads and profile here. I was genuinely amazed when first entering this thread so thanks.

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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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You are the Phage for Kennedy topics. Except that you're likable, modest, and usually right. Keep it coming!

Q



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 12:21 AM
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Who knows. A friend told me he read some supposed leaked documents from the CIA and they stated they "took" him out of office because he was doing deals with the mob, and because he was pro human rights.

Obviously not fact, just what I heard.
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posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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I Like William Cooper's twist on this

www.youtube.com...

enjoy



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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all i can say is moosad, moosad, moosad.........israel had the biggest motive of all.............



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