New Hints Of Israeli Attack On Iran?

Ever since the arab dictators began falling out of favor with their own people, Israel has become less and less important to the U S in the middle east. With the possible emergence of other "more democratic" countries in the region things should become more and more stable.

This, of course, would be a direct threat to the Israeli government as it could greatly impact the foriegn subsidies which they receive from the U S. This would also impact the power of the Israeli lobbists in Washington. Even though I don't expect to live long enough to see a this happen, I can hope.

The author of this article speaks of the need to act and the timing for such actions by Israeli governments leaders. He also tells of the U S involvement in delaying these actions, even though they know they can not stop them.

www.haaretz.com...

Alon Ben David, Channel 10 News’ military correspondent pens a column in Haaretz exposing the tell-tale signs that Ehud Barak and Bibi Netanyahu may be planning for an attack on Iran before winter sets in. Below, I note a different report saying that Leon Panetta would be in discussions with Israel next week, and one of his goals was to remind Israel that the U.S. quid pro quo for torpedoing Palestinian statehood in the UN was nixing an Israeli attack on Iran.

As Ben David puts it:
During the coming winter, centrifuges in Iran will produce close to a ton of enriched uranium, and Iran will relay this uranium product to its underground vault at Qom. There, beneath layers of stone, it would be very hard for an airstrike to derail the production process.

He also expreses some reservations about these actions.

The prime minister hinted in his speech that in light of the lack of activity on the international front that Israel must “protect itself.” It’s logical to presume that this will stand at the center of next week’s visit of U.S. secretary of defense, Leon Panetta. The U.S. will seek reassurance that Israel isn’t going to go crazy and Jerusalem will be expected to make a painful deal: [the U.S.] torpedoing a Palestinian state in return for [Israel] cancelling an attack on Iran.

If the Israelis are determined to attack Iran, I hope the Obama administration willhave learned a
little bit from Bush about invations into the middle east, and politely stay home.

Alternatively, the new democratic middle-eastern countries may vote in more radical leadership (See Hamas rise to power) which could destabilize the region further.

Just sayin'

(wipe tears) Oh God.

You think the ME is *more stable.*

I'm dying here.

The only thing that might be more stable is that all those countries are now preoccupied by internal affairs, delaying the overall plan for a little while. But only for a little while, because those countries newly emerging leaders are the ones who want a gigantic Pan-Islamic Super-State.

A Pan-Islamic Super-State is *not* in your personal or national best interest. At all.

Isreal hasnt the depth of resources to contemplate war with Iran, plain and simple.
If they attack Iran, it will be with the blessing of the US Beforehand......imho
Turkey has become a great puzzle piece in this see saw of conflicting layalties and hidden agendas.
With the sixth largest military force in the world they are no small potatoes.
Even as they are aligning themselves against Isreal, they are planning to host early warning missile radars for the NATO alliance.
Their offer of Military escort to rescue ships breaking the Gaza strip blockade by Turkiah navy is a declaration of war with Isreal, in a subued sense, and a warning of impending conflict, as i believe the Isrealis WILL fire on them if they try.
With military confrontations brewing on several fronts,(Syria,Egypt,Turkey,)and rockets still reaching into their country every day,the Isrealis will have to lie doggo for the time being till they can determine a clearer picture of where their forces may be best employed, if at all.................

reply to post by hdutton


I'd have to agree with Aeons here.

Israel could have used this to their long term advantage by providing humanitarian aid overtly and using covert means to put moderates in power.

They may have tried the covert means, but they did not use the overt means. That equals failure.

Most countries use covert means, but rarely overt means.

Every humanitarian crisis that the US responds to...you will always see a US flag on the bags of grain, rice or boxes of supplies.

Knowing who is helping goes a long way to engendering friendship. If not among the government, at least the people.

What I find suspicious is this is all happening around the time of palastinian bid for statehood, what happens if we are foced to veto the bid for statehood and it pisses the whole arab world off... they are backed by china and russia and we have europe, uk, and many other allies. WW 4 be coming, so bad its gonna skip right past 3 straight to 4. Also whatup with pakistan telling us not to break onto their soil again, lots of people are choosing sides and it just seems like it happened recently.

What is also interesting is today's news release from the French:

Report: Risk of strike on Iran 'strong,' French envoy warns

www.jpost.com...

France: Iran risks attack if it continues to develop nuclear program

www.haaretz.com...

Attack on Iran More Likely While Atomic Efforts Continue: France

www.globalsecuritynewswire.org...

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I too have noticed a choosing of side in the past few weeks.

I don't think it will come to a shooting war on it's own. That does not mean it couldn't turn that way if some "nut" actually starts shooting.

I can see, however, the beginning of some harsh economic pressures being brought into play. This would have a devistating effect on some of the already depressed countries of Europe and possibly Africa.

A stronger economic alignment between the Arab countries and China could force a rapid energy "rethink". The answers to such problems have been discussed but big business is not ready to impliment them. So there may well be a time lag involved which will continue to depress even the American economy.

reply to post by hdutton

Netanyahu is completely serious in his desire, and also in his preparations to circumvent the warnings of the entire defense establishment in order to implement this desire, which many of those in his inner circle have defined as messianic: to attack Iran before winter. Before the clouds come, anyone who can stop him must do so.

Haaretz

Originally posted by princeofpeace
What is also interesting is today's news release from the French:

Report: Risk of strike on Iran 'strong,' French envoy warns

www.jpost.com...

France: Iran risks attack if it continues to develop nuclear program

www.haaretz.com...

Attack on Iran More Likely While Atomic Efforts Continue: France

www.globalsecuritynewswire.org...

it appears that not only France but Russia is also
Source

Last Sunday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov called on Iran to "freeze the production of centrifuges," saying that such a step would prevent fresh sanctions against it.

“In response we will abstain from imposing more sanctions, both at the UN Security Council and unilaterally,” the diplomat said in a CNN interview.

On Tuesday, Mr. Lavrov stressed the need to find a diplomatic solution to the issue.

“We don’t see any alternative to a political and diplomatic solution and taking concrete steps towards renewing of talks,” he said in an address to the United Nations General Assembly in New York.

So if Iran blows off Russia,it appears that Russia would support operations against Iran as would a few of the Arab nations.
a start to WWIII?no,but the annihilation of Iran by a combined NATO Russian military action,maybe.
the Ball is in the Iranians court now,let's see if it's still the same game or will they change their tone knowing that France along with NATO have shown a more aggressive nature lately i.e Libya.