Obama will win. As predicted. And guess who's tho blame..., page 2


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reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 09:42 AM by TDawgRex
reply to post by getreadyalready


From your keyboard to Gods eyes... Is he logged in right now?

I hope Cain does take the primary and brings Paul along with him. But they would still have their work cut out for them and they will have to make some serious decisions that will make many unhappy.

But things aren't fixed overnight. Something this Admin thinks is possible it seems.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 09:45 AM by getreadyalready
Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


NO president has been reelected when unemployment is 9.0% plus

That is a fact. Deal with it.



Numbers can be manipulated. Benefits expire and will not be extended and renewed. A miraculous tax rebate will make the news late next summer, and checks will arrive just prior to the election. Obama isn't re-electable at this very moment, but when the GOP sells out to Perry or Romney, and Obama's campaign kicks into overdrive, and the numbers are all skewed to show a significant recovery next summer, and he finds a way to put cash in everyone's pocket just prior to election, he will be a landslide victory.

The only way Obama doesn't win in a landslide, is if the GOP endorses a Tea Party candidate like Paul or Cain. Even with Cain, it is iffy because he served on the Fed, and that turns some people off.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 09:49 AM by Misterlondon
Originally posted by kalisdad
Originally posted by Misterlondon
how can anyone be to "blame"? i thought the majority of voters decide who wins and becomes president... surely if the blame lies with anyone its the American public?


thats the scam of it though...

the American public doesn't decide who becomes president...

learn about electoral college before blaming the public voters

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

www.factcheck.org...
edit on 28-9-2011 by kalisdad because: (no reason given)



thats crazy.. i guess things work differently over your side of the pond. over here it basically works like this... whoever gets the most votes wins.. (although there is a little more to it.. but thats pretty much how it works)



reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 10:12 AM by TDawgRex
reply to post by Smack


The end of parties has been tossed about for quite awhile. But it never happens.

They just go back, rethinks things..maybe rebranding, retooling the message.

And...BAM!

I'm Baaaaack!

Usually takes a decade though.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 10:13 AM by MrXYZ
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


Obama will win because of the lack of viable GOP candidates...they are all demonstrably clueless when it comes to the economy, Bachmann especially.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 10:19 AM by MrXYZ
reply to post by Nucleardiver


I don't think Obama's the issue really, he's a politician, it makes sense that he's not an expert in economics. The real issue are the "advisors" surrounding him, people like Geithner or Bernake are so wrong about the economy, it's almost comical.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 10:28 AM by Nucleardiver
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by Smack


The end of parties has been tossed about for quite awhile. But it never happens.

They just go back, rethinks things..maybe rebranding, retooling the message.

And...BAM!

I'm Baaaaack!

Usually takes a decade though.


The end of parties has been tossed around since Hamilton, Madison, and Jay wrote about the dangers of "political factions" in the federalist papers but it will never happen because as Madison wrote men would "surrender to the tyranny of their own passions" and "may forget thier obligations to their constituents, and prove unfaithful to their important trust".

The blame for the state of our nation lies wholey in the hands of the people, we have thwarted our responsibility to govern the government and regulate the actions of the government through the tool we were given, the elections.

The people are the fountain from which all government power is derived and as the ultimate government we have failed to control the power that the government has been given, now we must pay the price of or actions and that price is ultimate corruption in government.

We have went from a nation where the people regulate and control the government to a nation where the government regulates and controls the masses. The people of America will ultimately be resposible for our downfall.



reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 10:46 AM by whaaa
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


Obama will win because of the lack of viable GOP candidates...they are all demonstrably clueless when it comes to the economy, Bachmann especially.


That's correct. No candidate imo has any viable economic solutions. All they offer is somekind of fantasy about change.

Anyone realistically think that the status quo is going to change with corporate control of the economic system.

Nothing is going to change regardless of who gets elected................so sit down, stfu, and watch TV
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