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Saudi Woman Gets 10 Lashes For Driving

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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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Saudi Woman Gets 10 Lashes For Driving


www.news.com.au

A SAUDI woman has been sentenced to 10 lashes for defying a ban on women driving in the conservative kingdom, an activist says, while another woman has been arrested in the capital.
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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Yes you can have the vote. No you can't drive.

Recently Saudi women won the right to vote, however it seems as though driving a car is still off the agenda. Yes driving a car will get you the lash. The pinnacle of modernity indeed.

I have stated previously that I lived there for sometime, during the first gulf war if your interested. Anyway my "Boss" at the time, a Saudi who was educated in the USA, got into some very serious trouble with the authorities there when his wife was involved in a demonstration about driving.

About 50 women drove through Riyadh and let me tell you TSHTF bigtime. The punishment, Passports confiscated and 24 hour surveillance by the secret police. All for driving a car.

Cheers





www.news.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Only 10? She must have been driving a 4cylinder...

V8's deserve a stoning i bet...







Hold on while exit the world, it makes zero sense...
edit on 27-9-2011 by boncho because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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If it was a Volvo then I completely understand.

Cheers



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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Time the men evolved. A woman is no less than a man. Why are they so afraid of women that they need to keep them down? Un friggin believable! I'd never allow a man to treat me the way these women do. I don't care if it's their culture and they were raised this way. Grow up and move on!
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:27 PM
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This kind of thing never fails to get my blood boiling. Who do these pompous men think they are? It is unbelievable what kind of things women have to put up with in these a** backward countries.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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In the Sorcery thread linked above I noted the following;

"I lived there for quite a number of years and I can tell you the Al-Hijri calendar is currently at 1432 and they really are still there."

That more or less sums it up. Cast your imagination back in western civilisation to this time and bingo that's the mentality.

Cheers



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Their country, their rules. I don't agree with it at all, I find it backwards and idiotic. However, it's not my place to force them to give women the right to drive. (I'd like to see a man in the family fall deathly ill with only his wife or daughter to drive... Wonder what he'd choose then...)

But my point is, as I've said before: It's not our country. If they want change, they have to make that change themselves. (Just like the rest of us have to and have done.)



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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when someone hurts another they are no more than hurting themselves by attacking that which they see in them that reminds them of their own failure. people need to realize that if their neighbor is a slave then they are also a slave. if your neighbor is poor then you are also poor, no one is rich till everyone is rich.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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This isn't a cultural issue, it's a religious issue.
Mohammed taught that a woman was worth less than a man; that's where this law, and those like it, stem from.

e.g.:

From The Qur'an:

Qur'an (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.

Qur'an (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women." Muslim apologists offer creative explanations to explain why Allah felt that a man's testimony in court should be valued twice as highly as a woman's, but studies consistently show that women are actually less likely to tell lies than men, meaning that they would make more reliable witnesses.

Qur'an (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

Qur'an (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands if there is no water to purify them following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).

Qur'an (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye. (To be fair, men are told to do the same thing in the prior verse).

Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land. This verse is overtly sexual. There is some dispute as to whether it is referring to the practice of anal intercourse, which it has been used historically to justify. If this is what Muhammad meant, however, then it would appear to contradict what he said in Muslim (8:3365).

Qur'an (4:3) - (Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" Inequality by numbers.

Qur'an (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.

Qur'an (4:24) and Qur'an (33:50) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage. Note that the verse distinguishes wives from captives (those whom they right hand possesses).

quoted from www.thereligionofpeace.com...



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by myselfaswell



About 50 women drove through Riyadh and let me tell you TSHTF bigtime. The punishment, Passports confiscated and 24 hour surveillance by the secret police. All for driving a car.

Cheers





www.news.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)


What is funny is that the leaders of this and other similar countries expect us (the US) to take them seriously when it comes to global politics, meanwhile actively oppressing their own citizens.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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Another example of this amazing culture of peace that we are destroying...



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:50 PM
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Aaaaah the religion of peace.

Gotta love it.

Saudi govt. is crapping themselves in fear of over throw, give a few bones to the peeps...but not too many.

women can get a gig in local government....they just can get there LOL!

so damn stupid.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:50 PM
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I wish they would have given my last girlfriend about 20 or 30 lashes for just mouthing off. Or just cut her tongue out.-------------------------




posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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Its like the wild west out there man. Just because they have modern toys in modern times does not mean they have modern laws. Imagine if America fell under Leviticus. Same type of concept.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by myselfaswell
Yes you can have the vote. No you can't drive.

Recently Saudi women won the right to vote, however it seems as though driving a car is still off the agenda. Yes driving a car will get you the lash. The pinnacle of modernity indeed.
I thought they'd given up on wanting to drive a car. Now they just want to ride camels according to this:

www.arabnews.com...

OK, we give up and allow the men to drive cars and allow us what was never denied our grandmothers - camels. Let every household own as many camels as they wish or can afford. Open up schools to teach women how to ride and house and maintain a camel.


OK it's a bit tongue in cheek, but the prophet Muhammed's family got around on camels, including the women, so that must be ok, right? Or does riding a camel instead of driving a car reduce the punishment to 2 spankings?



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:56 PM
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when will those saudi women learn....


...you break the law, you pay the price.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 01:55 AM
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This says they changed in 2008

????

maybe recinded?

Saudi Arabia to lift ban on women drivers



12:01AM GMT 21 Jan 2008

Saudi Arabia is to lift its ban on women drivers in an attempt to stem a rising suffragette-style movement in the deeply conservative state.

Government officials have confirmed the landmark decision and plan to issue a decree by the end of the year.

The move is designed to forestall campaigns for greater freedom by women, which have recently included protesters driving cars through the Islamic state in defiance of a threat of detention and loss of livelihoods.

The royal family has previously balked at granting women driving permits, claiming the step did not have full public support. The driving ban dates back to the establishment of the state in 1932, although recently the government line has weakened.


or was this all just bulldrek?

or were they worried about freeway traffic jams and higher insurance rates and parking lot accidents



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 03:05 AM
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If this would have happened in Iran people would be asking to bomb them. Hypocrites!



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
or were they worried about freeway traffic jams and higher insurance rates and parking lot accidents
I'd be ok with giving this woman 10 lashes for not using a turn signal to cut across 8 lanes of traffic, regardless of whether she's Saudi or any other background...I've seen it happen and it's dangerous:




Of course if they suddenly let the Saudi women drive, there are bound to be a few more accidents at first while they are still learning. But with oil at sky high prices, the Saudi's should be able to afford the insurance.




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