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Originally posted by colbe
I like your reply, it's very well written. God's outside of time so it
is a mystery to keep reading "soon" in the messages. Whatever,
the prophetic is closer. The prophecy for the West Coast, I've read
of it now, going on 13 years. Prayer and offering sacrifices no matter how small, mitigates, changes prophecy.
And a mystic from Ireland, Christina Gallagher, years ago, Our Lord
would not show her what is going on in California, it was/is so vile.
Pray for conversions.
My own family doesn't believe.
"I can virtually guarantee that your prophecy or the core elements of it will come true. There will, inevitably, be a devastating earthquake in the SF Bay Area at some point."
Hurracane Katrina happened
I huge line was drawn across Texas from record breaking destruction of Tornadoes.
Washington has been hit by Snowstorms in recent years and even Obama called it 'Snowmaggedon'
There are patterns but it has mainly got to do with Israel
What do these major record-setting events have in common?
• The ten costliest insurance events in U.S. history • The twelve costliest hurricanes in U.S. history • Three of the four largest tornado outbreaks in U.S. history • The two largest terrorism events in U.S. history
All of these major catastrophes and many others occurred or began on the very same day or within 24-hours of U.S. presidents Bush, Clinton and Bush applying pressure on Israel to trade her land for promises of "peace and security," sponsoring major "land for peace" meetings, making major public statements pertaining to Israel’s covenant land and /or calling for a Palestinian state.
Are each one of these major record-setting events just a coincidence or awe-inspiring signs that God is actively involved in the affairs of Israel?
In this book, Bill Koenig provides undeniable facts and conclusive evidence showing that indeed the leaders of the United States and the world are on a collision course with God over Israel’s covenant land.
"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem" (Zechariah 12:9)
"Just days after Obama insisted Israel must give up lands it won through military victory with its enemies, some 200 people were killed by a tornado in Joplin, Mo."
It all began on November 1, 1991, when we forced Israel to the Madrid Conference. We forced them to sit down at the table and start negotiating away their land to the Palestinians. That conference began on November 1, 1991, and on that exact day the Perfect Storm formed in the Atlantic. That perfect storm produced waves of over 100 feet and almost completely destroyed President Bush's home in Kennebunkport, Maine. In fact, on November the 1st USA Today had twin headlines. On one side it said," Madrid Conference Convenes," the other side said, "Perfect Storm Forms."
Consider what happened in the summer of 1992 when Yitzhak Rabin was elected the new prime minister of Israel. The moment he was elected in June, we put pressure on him and said he must come to Washington, sit down with the PLO's Arafat, and negotiate and give land to Arafat. He came and sat down with Arafat. Their meeting began on August 24, 1992, and on that very day Andrew Hurricane slammed into Miami. It was the greatest hurricane in the history of the United States up to that point.
Consider the Camp David Summit in July of 2000, when Bill Clinton brought Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Yasser Arafat together. Clinton began to put pressure on Barak to trade away the heartland of Israel and also to give Arafat one half of Jerusalem. The day that conference began, fires broke out in the Western United States. Fifty fires consumed 500,000 acres of land before the end of the month.
Also, consider the White House celebration of Ramadan. It's the strangest thing why George W. Bush started this. I have no idea. This was Bush's response to 9/11 to schedule the first ever White House celebration of Ramadan. Someone once said scheduling a celebration of Ramadan after 9/11 was the equivalent to FDR scheduling a celebration of Shintoism after the attack on Pearl Harbor. It makes no sense whatsoever. It just doesn't make any sense! At this meeting, which was held in November of 2002, President Bush made this incredible statement. He said, "We have come to honor Allah, the God of Abraham." The very next day, a swarm of 88 tornadoes hit the central United States.
Consider what came next — the incredible Road Map Plan. The Road Map was put together by the Quartet. You talk about an ungodly quartet: Russia, the United Nations, the European Union and the United States. The plan's purpose was to force Israel to give away its heartland. This was delivered by Daniel Kurtzer, the ambassador to Ariel Sharon, on May 4, 2003. The next day Colin Powell went to the Middle East to implement the plan. The first thing he did was to meet with the terrorist leader Hafez Assad who's now dead. As soon as the meeting was over, he called a press conference and announced he had promised President Assad that the Golan Heights would be promised in the Road Map. He said we would force Israel to give up the Golan Heights. That very day, the greatest tornado swarm in the history of the United States occurred — 412 tornados broke out. The previous high was only 177!
In summary, in those years between 1991 and 2004, during those thirteen years that the United States had turned against Israel, here's what's happened:
•9 of the 10 largest insurance events in U.S. history
•9 of the 10 greatest natural disasters as ranked by FEMA relief costs
•5 of the costliest hurricanes in U.S. history
•3 of the 4 largest tornado swarms in U.S. history.
All of these disasters were linked in one way or another to our attempts to press Israel into dividing its land or surrendering all or part of Jerusalem.
The world would laugh at this and the world would say it's coincidence. I don't believe in coincidence, I believe in "God incidences."
Originally posted by AceWombat04
Let me put it another way: what does this supposed prophecy accomplish that is not already accomplished through common sense, preparedness, and general knowledge? If a quake strikes San Francisco tomorrow, it isn't going to prove that God made it happen or that your prophecy was being fulfilled by it. Because there's going to be a quake in San Francisco eventually no matter what.
Now, don't get me wrong. You are completely free to interpret such an event as a fulfillment of what you consider to be a prophecy, or as an act of God, or as punishment of the wicked, etc. That is your immutable prerogative as a free human being and citizen, I will not try to disabuse you of it, and I will not demean or attack you for it regardless of my own opinions/beliefs. But in the mean time, the prophecy doesn't serve as any greater or more specific or more credible warning than what we already had before you posted it... does it?
In a nut shell: what is the ostensible point?edit on 2/14/2012 by AceWombat04 because: Typo
Originally posted by gavron
You pray to a God that lets innocent children die in Syria right now? People praying for his help, and he does nothing??
Any god that can be that cruel should not be worshiped.
Originally posted by colbe
Pray, God answers every prayer according to what is best for each soul.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by The time lord
In other words, since science goes against your crazy beliefs, you ignore facts and rationality and simply substitute it with random beliefs that have no bearing in reality...got it
You clearly stated earthquakes and snowstorms are an act of god...when they CLEARLY aren't since we can fully explain them through science. It's not even a hypothesis, it's a FACT that only natural forces are the cause of earthquakesedit on 15-2-2012 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Myollinir
I'm Christian and I already resent this thread. Jesus didn't say anything except for what has been written long ago. He may speak to us in our own ways, but nothing will be revealed about end times except for vague visualizations that were given in the final book of the Bible... and that might not even pertain to an "end". It makes me frown when people bring this stuff up like they're so certain that they are the personal prophet of God, when in fact we will never know the date of any end. It will come if it will, and all the faithful need to do is remain faithful.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by colbe
your one of the few people whose bubble im gonna enjoy smashing.... at least untill you kill yourself....
You have to realize that siesmic activity along that region is well known because of knowledge gained through research. You cant take an inevitible natural disater and tack on some pitifully ignorant religious drivel to call it a fullfilled prophecy.
Im sorry but your attitude is really filling up the cup of "gods" wrath. Id start shopping for umbrellas or take off what you dont want wet.
Originally posted by The time lord
1/3rd of the Bible is prophecy it sets out patterns of understanding from the earliest books to the last, everything has its own little hidden spiritual laws in which the world and people are affected,
All these books tell about something of the endtimes and the arrival of a Messiah;
Ezekiel, Daniel, Zechariah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Amos, Obadiah, Haggai.