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posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by Whatsreal
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That just sounds like a whole bag of STUPID. Why do crazy people who don't want to just live and let live always have to assume Jesus is on their side. As if invoking the name of Jesus is a trump card and automatically adds legitimacy to what by itself are the ravings of a lunatic.

I swear Jesus/the church/religious zealots (from all religions) have caused way more death, destruction, and strife than all the gay/lesbian/bi folks have or could in the future cause combined.

Seriously, we're over populated. having gay couples is a good thing!

there was an experiment done a few years back I remember reading. What they did was put 2 rats in a box. 1 male 1 female. They mated. Then they put 4 in a box... 2 of each and they paired off.. they kept doubling up and by the time they got past 32 they noticed gay couples starting to pair off as space in the box got tight.... the more they added, the greater the instance of gay couples. This experiment would suggest that homosexuality is a natural way of population control.

Think about that for a minute.
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Whatsreal,

"Live and let live"...you could say that about anything.

These times, and throughout history, I will not follow God, even when it is so obviously disordered. The natural law, men and women together, this is how He made us....

We can know, the "act" is an abomination to God. He loves the sinner not the sin.

And overpopulation is a myth. There is hardly any next generation. Again, cause people
do not follow God.

On both, I wish I could change your mind, it's something you should as God about in
prayer. He would desire to show you.




posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:03 AM
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Hopefully he doesn't answer the prayers the same way he answered Job's.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by colbe

Originally posted by Whatsreal
reply to post by colbe
 


That just sounds like a whole bag of STUPID. Why do crazy people who don't want to just live and let live always have to assume Jesus is on their side. As if invoking the name of Jesus is a trump card and automatically adds legitimacy to what by itself are the ravings of a lunatic.

I swear Jesus/the church/religious zealots (from all religions) have caused way more death, destruction, and strife than all the gay/lesbian/bi folks have or could in the future cause combined.

Seriously, we're over populated. having gay couples is a good thing!

there was an experiment done a few years back I remember reading. What they did was put 2 rats in a box. 1 male 1 female. They mated. Then they put 4 in a box... 2 of each and they paired off.. they kept doubling up and by the time they got past 32 they noticed gay couples starting to pair off as space in the box got tight.... the more they added, the greater the instance of gay couples. This experiment would suggest that homosexuality is a natural way of population control.

Think about that for a minute.
edit on 29-9-2011 by Whatsreal because: grammer-typo


Whatsreal,

"Live and let live"...you could say that about anything.

These times, and throughout history, I will not follow God, even when it is so obviously disordered. The natural law, men and women together, this is how He made us....

We can know, the "act" is an abomination to God. He loves the sinner not the sin.

And overpopulation is a myth. There is hardly any next generation. Again, cause people
do not follow God.

On both, I wish I could change your mind, it's something you should as God about in
prayer. He would desire to show you.


Well my aunt just had a new kid, and my friends sister just had a new kid, one of my cousins in prego, so i think there is going to be a next generation. Please make more sense in your posts



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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by that rational , then the UK which suffers no natural disasters has a higher percentage of non relgious folks, and atheists than those who believe in religion !

So therefore is god not killing us because we are not believing in him :?



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:17 AM
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yes , I have mentioned this before , read the book hamlets mill!
it mentions this and every other ancient civilisations creation myth, All are based on astronomical observations
and all these are based on science.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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whats the word you like? My avatar is a picture I took out back of my house of lightning. I then inverted the colors..



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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*sigh*

Anyone who has read my posts (both of ya...) knows I have little use for dogmatic religion. I believe there is a God, but that his word (whatever that is...) is unknowable by mere mortals (that would be all of us...in case you missed it.).

But this unrelenting hatred of Christianity is just as bad as any bigotry posited by so called Christians. No where near all Christians defend the wrongs perpetrated in Christianity's name, in fact I'd be so bold as to assert that the majority don't.

Many, dare I say the majority, of Christians live quiet lives and make no effort to shove their religion down the throats of others.

Fuss and fume about the wrongs done by these zealots in Christ's clothing if you will. But don't be so hypocritical as to emulate them in doing so.

Hatred will solve nothing.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by sapien82
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by that rational , then the UK which suffers no natural disasters has a higher percentage of non relgious folks, and atheists than those who believe in religion !

So therefore is god not killing us because we are not believing in him :?


Makes sense, If I was a god, and I was just checking up on earth, where these weird giant monkey tribes are sitting around screaming about the idea of a god with faces/names they created, killing each other and hating each other because their gods disagree with each other, and then I seen athiests just being rational and logical about everything, and not killing each other and being nice, I would treat the athiests better..

At the end of the day, organized religions killed millions upon millions throughout history, Athiests barely killed anyone in comparison..

Its kinda funny, if religions practiced what they preached, this world would be amazing, but instead, they do the exact opposite. I'm waiting for the day where all the religions will be like in a museum in like 100 years and people will be like "BEHOLD"



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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i have to wonder if the OP author is the same person as the web site owner...

for what reason was this excerpt from the Sept 11th message posted...
to inform us here at ATS of the message that somehow came from ? Jesus? or the Christ

daily messages or warnings, etc from some inspiration or from some channeled spirit?

not much more to comment on
other than somebody must be skipping their Meds...

which is ironic... to be Leery of this John Leary
who posts these daily religious message themes
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posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:39 AM
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I agree, but I have to wonder where these anti-Christian posts you're talking about are?
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posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by colbe

Originally posted by Whatsreal
reply to post by colbe
 


That just sounds like a whole bag of STUPID. Why do crazy people who don't want to just live and let live always have to assume Jesus is on their side. As if invoking the name of Jesus is a trump card and automatically adds legitimacy to what by itself are the ravings of a lunatic.

I swear Jesus/the church/religious zealots (from all religions) have caused way more death, destruction, and strife than all the gay/lesbian/bi folks have or could in the future cause combined.

Seriously, we're over populated. having gay couples is a good thing!

there was an experiment done a few years back I remember reading. What they did was put 2 rats in a box. 1 male 1 female. They mated. Then they put 4 in a box... 2 of each and they paired off.. they kept doubling up and by the time they got past 32 they noticed gay couples starting to pair off as space in the box got tight.... the more they added, the greater the instance of gay couples. This experiment would suggest that homosexuality is a natural way of population control.

Think about that for a minute.
edit on 29-9-2011 by Whatsreal because: grammer-typo


Whatsreal,

"Live and let live"...you could say that about anything.

These times, and throughout history, I will not follow God, even when it is so obviously disordered. The natural law, men and women together, this is how He made us....

We can know, the "act" is an abomination to God. He loves the sinner not the sin.

And overpopulation is a myth. There is hardly any next generation. Again, cause people
do not follow God.

On both, I wish I could change your mind, it's something you should as God about in
prayer. He would desire to show you.


Ya I wish you could change my mind too, but for the same reason i don't listen to 6 year olds, you don't bring anything of intellectual discussion to the table. You fail to grasp the concept that god=nature=things that occur naturally=anything a human being is physically and mentally capable of is natural, including homosexuality, and its not like homosexuality is a human only thing, if that was the case i would say you have a point, but you do not.

Over population is a myth? Just like the earth is flat right? And all those evil scientists corrupted by the devil spewing evolution and science to the other corrupted people. Guess what? You are right, YOU have no next generation, because religion itself is dying, especially christianity, the rest of the world will thrive without it.

Because of people like you, more and more people side against christianity, and rightly so.



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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Through out this thread, and on many another thread through out ATS. You needn't look far...



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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The natural law, men and women together, this is how He made us....


He also didn't make us with computers attached to our palms... yet... here we are.

Things not being "natural" isn't an argument against it, and besides, how can you honestly argue that something is unnatural when it is 100% fact that it exists in nature? I'd go as far as to say that suppression of homosexuality is the only thing not natural about the whole situation, and has obviously lead to population problems in more strict areas of the planet. If every single human and animal bred like it was their sole duty, we would be in deep sh# right now. Denying that is beyond ignorant.
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posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by Partisanity


The natural law, men and women together, this is how He made us....


He also didn't make us with computers attached to our palms... yet... here we are.

Things not being "natural" isn't an argument against it, and besides, how can you honestly argue that something is unnatural when it is 100% fact that it exists in nature? I'd go as far as to say that suppression of homosexuality is the only thing not natural about the whole situation, and has obviously lead to population problems in more strict areas of the planet. If every single human and animal bred like it was their sole duty, we would be in deep sh# right now. Denying that is beyond ignorant.
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If you think about it, sex for pleasure is sex for pleasure. I doesn't matter WHO is involved



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Partisanity


The natural law, men and women together, this is how He made us....


He also didn't make us with computers attached to our palms... yet... here we are.

Things not being "natural" isn't an argument against it, and besides, how can you honestly argue that something is unnatural when it is 100% fact that it exists in nature? I'd go as far as to say that suppression of homosexuality is the only thing not natural about the whole situation, and has obviously lead to population problems in more strict areas of the planet. If every single human and animal bred like it was their sole duty, we would be in deep sh# right now. Denying that is beyond ignorant.
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Romans1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


You can take it at face value or not. As you can see this is coming from the "New Testament God" (whatever that means). You will have to decide on your own what and who to believe.

I wonder if I was quoting text from the Koran if I would receive more respect here....



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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One day people will understand that God is, and God is involving Himself in the things of the world to judge them for their rebellion and sin. There is a Tsunami coming to the east coast of America soon.

livinginthetimes.blogspot.com...

www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by spw184

If you think about it, sex for pleasure is sex for pleasure. I doesn't matter WHO is involved


or what

way back there somewhere I mentioned not many of you seemed worth the time to reply to and yet hours later the unanswered questions still linger on my mind so here goes.

I mentioned we only use 10% of our brains and got a reply that that myth was debunked and linked to a scientific american article. A better article there would have been searching for God in the brain (Oct 2007) but that isn't my point.

People see what they want to see and hear the way they want to hear. Even scientific american plays that game of semantics. Perhaps it would be easier to understand the 10% contention if you look at the brain like a computer and how we are only using a small portion of our full capacity. We are not multi-tasking to our full potentials.That isnt saying that all of our brains isnt in use at some point but that not all is being used at the same time. ... but meh

colbe there are a number of things I have been holding off on saying and if you noticed I hadn't mentioned the initial article you posted. I will do so now.

A few points about channeling you should be aware of, it is expressly forbidden by God as a sin. Being a devout Catholic you should know this but the issue I have with Catholicism is that it treats Faith like a board game with a get out of hell free card any time you confess which needs to be weekly because the sins never end right? What's wrong with this picture?

Secondly and addressing the Leary guy, he reminds me of several others around the web... Letters to Timothy, Book of Urantia, all people who believe God will be sending new messages (as if the original wasn't good enough and needed a rewrite) through people who claim to be either Jesus, the arch-angel Michael, Mary, even all of the above depending upon which day/letter you read.

All delusions and woefully inaccurate. God is not going to judge a pair of cities in a corrupted world, not this time. Been there, done that and the world today is worse on a sheer numbers basis alone so get over any concept of one area being more deserving of wrath than another.

As far as catholicism is concerned I am curious why you who seem to know the word well enough would follow a Religion that was first built up around Pagan beliefs in order to get the Romans to acquiesce and follow, and secondly replaces God with a "father" figure (Thou shall call no man the father remember? ) that engages in idolatry ( kissing of his ring) and has upside down crosses everywhere. Wasn't it Peter who was crucified upside down? My Biblical fluency isn't that great so if I am mistaking Peter for Paul please forgive me.

Now I don't begrudge you for your Faith and it is admirable the way you post after post defend it but what exactly are you defending here? Are you aware that the spirit world is real and channeling is warned against for a reason? As soon as you open that door to the other side you invite whatever spirit, malevolent or benevolent, who can say? The devil has been gaining souls by deception and these "letters" are merely the latest ploy to undermine true Faith in God and trust me, God doesn't need to send any messages through any "medium' pun intended.

If you knew God, truly knew God in your heart, your discernment of spirit would have awakened you to the fact that by their fruits shall you know them and when the Faithful start to stray because of lies then there will be hell to pay... literally..

As a believer in Christ you wouldn't seek any via any means other than the one Jesus Himself asked of you.. .through your heart, not through some messaging system that IMO is stereotypical of many others around the web and I can't help but wonder it isn't all by design as a systematic attack on what little rationale is left to the believer amidst all the confusion.

... like unto the days of Noah

Give me an honest answer colbe, you talk the talk but your walk seems way off the path... what motivated you to start this thread? Surely it wasn't a warning for two cities in a world of evil?
Psalm 74:23



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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From 2cd Thess 2:11-12 (NIV) Bible

" For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness."

From Romans 1:24-32 (NIV) Bible

" Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.








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posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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If I drop everything, leave the Bay Area with my wife, and travel across the country to somewhere remote and NOTHING HAPPENS...will you reimburse me for my troubles?
inb4 somewhere down the road there's an earthquake in California and you/your false prophet "predicted it", being that this is an earthquake prone area. That ain't a prophecy, that's something that's bound to happen sooner or later. So unless you can give me an exact date, or even a date within a MONTH of this prophecy, you will be regarded as crazy.

I have a prophecy too, next year during tornado season there will be deadly tornado's in Tornado Ally!!!!! If you live in the Midwest and the South, LEAVE NOW! GOD TOLD ME SO!



posted on Sep, 29 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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