Cheap effective last minute weapons for close quarter self defence?, page 6


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reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 03:33 AM by alien
Said before inthread...but still one of the best answers: Yourself.

Don't think I've ever been in a surprise CQC situation that wasn't, well, a surprise. Ie: Didn't have time to grab whatever weapon I had strategically placed anywhere...at the end of the day you need to be ready to rock whenever and wherever you may be.

All the guns, knives, axe-handles, naked pictures of Roseanne Barr aren't gonna save your ass if they are in a different room than the one you're getting jumped in.



Train in some form of h2h combat/martial art/unbridled monkey violence.
Train often, practice often.
Make it a natural part of how you move and react.
Train, train, train some more until your body instinctively lives and breathes the movements.



Heres another thing to keep in mind:
We all have some 'default settings' semi-hard-wired into us.
As much as so many people would love to believe they are some type of Terminator/Rambo/UberSoldat hardcore killer...the reality is for the greater majority you/we are still governed in immediate threat situations by the basic primordial responses of Fight, Flight or Freeze.

Of those 3 base responses the least common is actually Fight.
The majority response is actually Freeze closely followed by Flight.
Ie: In an immediate threat situation most people - regardless of what they may tell themselves or tell others - will freeze up (thus be a nice easy target) or run away (thus leaving anyone else remaining to be the target)
Which one you have is one of those things you don't know until you know.


All is not lost for the freezers or the flighters...this can be altered...through regular training. Hence, train, train, train some more.



...just my thoughts anyway...


...while I do have a nice wee selection of all manner of weapons throughout my house...you've also got to be just as ready to use the chair, the phonebook, the laptop, the table lamp, the cat, your wifes shoe, you kids train-set...whatever you can grab at the time to throw at and distract your attacker or take to them with...whatever works...there are NO rules, no pride, no 'gentlemans way' of protecting you and yours...do whatever you have to do to still be the person breathing and not bleeding...


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 03:36 AM by TheLoneArcher
reply to post by alien



You sir are sick !!!!! A naked photo of Roseanne Barr ??????
Now I need to go lie down.



However, the rest of your post is spot on and those that have no training should bare your words in mind.

Starred


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 03:55 AM by alien
reply to post by TheLoneArcher



Hey...I don't care how hopped up on drugs a potential attacker may be...shove a picture of Rosanne in all her fleshy freakness in their face and at the very least they'll be scared...quite likely flee in sheer repulsion...

Just make sure you use it like a Claymore Mine...front TOWARDS enemy...




reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 04:40 AM by TheLoneArcher
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If you box and are good at jabbing, may I suggest a pair of push daggers? It will add to the severity of the damage you are inflicting.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 05:03 AM by clintdelicious
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Mate I love push daggers and switchblades, but they are illegal here in the uk. Tbh I live in a very secure place atm so am not as security concious as I have been before, I actually had an arson attack on my last flat so was very cautious then before finding out some idiots just got the wrong flat and I was ever the intended victim.

A few year ago a girl I know was arrested after hitting a guy outside a bar we were at after her bf was attacked, she had a switchblade in her bag and despite being illegal to possess she escaped with a caution after saying she feared walking home alone. I bet if I was caught with one in my homw because I feared attack I would be in a LOT more trouble. I used to have a belt buckle that was a kucklesuter when I was younger and that saved me a few times just by havng it, I never had to use it luckily for me but a group of people who would attack you will be put of if you are armed as these cowards don't want to risk injury. I eventually was cautioned for it being illegal but it was worth it as I would have probably have been put in hospital otherwise at least once.

Now I carry nothing because I don't want to get a record for being caught again, I just try keep in shape and hope I look scary enough (not asy to do at 5ft 7 though lol!) I have carried climbing carrbinas beforre tho on a key chain as they have a nasty point on the that can be used, even tho legal its not worth the risk if I get in trouble tho. It sucks when in your country you are always at a disadvantage against criminals who are always in bigger numbers and you can't protect yourself with anything worthy of carrying.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 05:06 AM by TheLoneArcher
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Several other good reasons why I left the UK for sunnier climes. Here, I can carry a folding knife on my belt without any risk of arrest and do so, openly.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 05:13 AM by clintdelicious
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You need a flame thrower lol, just gota practice getting the tanks on quick! lol

I used to be a sparkys apprentice and alway kept some 25m conduit under my car seat incase coz roads are crazy, a friend was stabbed in the face over road rage, not even an accident just some angry guy with an anger problem, roads turn people into loonies I swear.

I forgot about dogs, I used to have a loverly bullmastiff, he ws the most gentle creature on the earth and was the best pet I have ever had, more likea brother than a pet actually. He was so calm, but would go into beserker mode at intruders or anyone getting aggressive with me or any of my family. I would hoghly recommend this because you will get a great companion as well, the breed are even really gentle with children despite the fact that they often out weight their owners. I can't give a dog enough time due to my work now, but I miss having a dog everyday and I can tell you if anyone attacked him I wouldn't think twice about treating it as if it were a family members being attacked.


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 05:14 AM by clintdelicious
reply to post by caddlesee



There is a differece between reasoable force and torture!


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 05:16 AM by clintdelicious
reply to post by TheLoneArcher



Believe me I am planning for the same as soon as I earn enough money and get enough training. Until then I'll have to settle for this though, I can get a .22 rifle atm but have to keep it at a gun club locked away from myself


reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 05:20 AM by TheLoneArcher
reply to post by clintdelicious



A .177 air pistol. Keep the pellets soaked in diesel. Makes one hell of a crack and increases the muzzel velocity. Keep plenty of spare seals though.
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