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Ron Paul: Let’s Get Out of the Middle East – and the UN

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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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I this article from Ron Paul and find it to be one of the best thought out and reasoned ideas on the subject.

Let’s Get Out of the Middle East – and the UN



The Palestinian Authority’s recent announcement that it would seek U.N. recognition as an independent state dominated the news and the political debate in the United States last week, though in truth it should mean very little to us. Only a political class harboring the illusion it can run the world obsesses over the aspirations of a tiny population on a tiny piece of land thousands of miles away. Remember, the U.N. initiated this persistent conflict with its 1947 Partition Plan.

Unfortunately, the debate is dominated by those who either support the Israeli side in the conflict, or those who support the Palestinian desire for statehood. We rarely seem to hear the view of those who support the U.S. side and U.S. interests. I am on that side. I believe that we can no longer police the world. We can no longer bribe the Israelis and Palestinians to continue an endless “peace process” that goes nowhere. It is not in our interest to hector the Palestinians or the Israelis, or to “export” democracy to the region but reject it when people vote the “wrong” way.


Ron Paul Source Document

I have for years thought that the best thing we can do for our selves as a nation is to walk away from both the Middle East, UN, and of course our interventionist policies in the region. Ron Paul says everything that I have thought, but says it much better than I could ever put it.




posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Leaving the UN was what attracted me to Ron Paul years ago. Remember? Back when he was a "nut". Except he never sounded nutty to me. To me he sounded like what we should have had for politicians for many decades now.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Ron Paul makes consistency look easy. I love the guy! Did anyone watch The Daily Show last night? I think he knocked it out of the park. If he is considered "sick", we need to start an epidemic!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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I do not care about the Israel-Palestine problem. The way I see it is that the UN created Israel in the United Kingdom owned Palestine in 1947 now we have the same organization trying to create an independent Palestine. What should that tell us? That top-down decisions always end in failure. Everything that occurs must be organic in nature, any other form of action by a distant elite few who think they know it all always leads to problems which the same know it all people claim to have the answer to the problem they created in the first place.

If the US government was really pro-Israel as they claim to be, they would exit the UN and tell them they have 5 years to get the hell off our soil. America needs to look out for America. This whole global project setup starting back in 1910s needs to end once and for all. Time for the world to wake and realize that centralized decision making in all forms is a failure. Look at the debt, wars, mismanagement, lies, secrecy, and destruction of our civilization. When they seriously screw things up it is hidden from us through their lies and don’t you dare question their lies for that is heresy.

Perhaps the world is entering a new age where all credibility in centralized and supranational organizations is lost. Where the know-it-all academics, businessmen, and politicians are revealed as the know-nothings they really are. Every decision they make without organic popular change ends up in a terrible result, the failed results are then hidden in the closet. Guess what, that closet door is not staying closed any longer, it is about to burst. And with it goes the past 90 years of ‘progress’ known as centralization, globalization, and destruction. All of which has resulted in consumerism, corporatism, despotism, bureaucracy, secrecy, collapse of the family unit, collapse of morals and ethics, a plummeting birth rate, a soaring welfare state, and wars being fought not for our national defense but for ideologies and money.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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I agree with this analysis, my only comment is why give the UN 5 years, as far as I am concerned tell them you have 6 months then we send in the wrecking balls.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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do you honestly think if ron paul is elected president, he'll remove the u.s. from the u.n. he's we should do this and we should do that.

i want to hear him say, i will remove the u.s. from the u.n., i will look after u.s. interests. that way it's concrete.

obama was full of this great and inspiring promises and he basically ruined the hope of all the cynical non-voters, who don't vote because they can see all the b.s. and realize it's pointless.

obama just proved their point thru deception.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by randomname
do you honestly think if ron paul is elected president, he'll remove the u.s. from the u.n. he's we should do this and we should do that.

i want to hear him say, i will remove the u.s. from the u.n., i will look after u.s. interests. that way it's concrete.

obama was full of this great and inspiring promises and he basically ruined the hope of all the cynical non-voters, who don't vote because they can see all the b.s. and realize it's pointless.

obama just proved their point thru deception.


Ask and ye shall receive. Straight from the horses mouth.




posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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I wish you Ron Paul supporters would turn your attention to an ELECTABLE candidate that actually understand how the system works. Ron Paul = THE MOST SOCIALIST CANDIDATE!!!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
I wish you Ron Paul supporters would turn your attention to an ELECTABLE candidate that actually understand how the system works. Ron Paul = THE MOST SOCIALIST CANDIDATE!!!


He understands how the system is supposed to work namely follow the constitution not spit on it like both parties have been doing for years. So he's a socialist now? I guess he'll be converting to Islam soon also huh?



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1

I wish you Ron Paul supporters would turn your attention to an ELECTABLE candidate that actually understand how the system works. Ron Paul = THE MOST SOCIALIST CANDIDATE!!!


Which candidate do you have in mind?

In what sense does Ron Paul not understand how the system works? Because he does not endorse the approved opinions of America's political and bureaucratic gatekeepers?

Would you agree that socialism implies centralization?



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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There is only one candidate worthy of my vote and that is Obama. He is like a savior to all us. I wish you didn't support Ron Paul and his homicidal policies, not to mention his dspicable racist tirades.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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He isn't man enough tto be a muslum.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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I'm taking this as you mean Obama will be elected correct?

Well If so that's fine with me b/c they are all the same, and all have been leading us down the same path, so if it's not Ron paul it's like asking death by hanging or slow progressive cancer. B/C I'm pretty sure it was Bush who said, "I have to abandon the free markets, to save the free market system." Or the fact Romney WROTE Obama care, and is for carbon credits, either way both parties since Coolidge have either taken away or implemented a infrastructure to make it easier to make themselves more powerful and help the government expand.

SO OPEN YOUR EYES AND GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or vote for you'r "less socialist" canidate, but don't ask us to be apart of it.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Obamacare is a good thing and ron paul doesnt know that. he wants to make all the states have rights? hello? this is a country!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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You're right he isn't man enough and that's b/c he is a mother flippen HE-Man. Your a complete ignoramous paramesium. "This is a country" Ya Duh!!!!!!!!! explain to me why we have states if we are simply a country and thats all, you sound like a constitutional scholar so maybe youi could enlighten me professor.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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we dont need states, they are just there so we can take track of everyone and vote right.

paramesium is not a word. I had to google it and you spelled that thing wrong! naybe you should learn to spell it if you insult with it!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
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There is only one candidate worthy of my vote and that is Obama. He is like a savior to all us. I wish you didn't support Ron Paul and his homicidal policies, not to mention his dspicable racist tirades.


Clearly it would be pointless for me to ask further questions.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Clearly it would be pointless for me to ask further questions.


i gueess if you like good answers than yah!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Hahahahaha! man i fell for your bs hook line and sinker. There is no way you are serious. Please tell me your not serious? and don't criticize my spelling when in an above post you mispelled: "to"



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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Um ya I am serious?!?! What makes you think I'm not. It's always people who ruin out of good points to make that ask if I'm serious?



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