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Originally posted by andy06shake
Oh yeh im Scottish and with your countrys behavior lately dont think you have a leg to stand on eh? Riot on dude!!! Proud English Man, thats a joke i hope! Atleast we can keep our Chavs under control!
There is something seriously wrong with society when life extending drugs are about a profit.
At the end of the day the right thing should not have a cost associated with it, profit should NOT trump the right thing to do.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by popsmayhem
But it's not falling to pieces and it's not failing.
Yes, it is mis-managed.
Yes, there is endemic waste.
Yes, there are the occassional horror story.
Yes, there are issues with the benefit system and free loaders being a drain on resources.
But all of those can be addressed, even those that are more directly related to social and political issues.
And that would benefit and help improve the service provided by the NHS.
Yes, there are genuine concerns about the direction Cameron's administration is taking the NHS.
But the vast majority of people in this country receive more than adequate treatment from dedicated staff regardless of the severity of their illness or ailment and regardless of social or financial background and standing.
No-one is killing off little old ladies...yet.
Originally posted by Mike_A
reply to post by popsmayhem
Are you suggesting that everyone in the US gets whatever treatment they desire regardless of cost? That’s not what happens to my knowledge.
Yes we do, we get a bill in the mail though for it if you do not have insurance..
The NHS is the single biggest customer of any pharmaceutical company in the world. The cronies in charge appear unable to use that buying power to demand a good deal.
Moreover all medical research should be taken out of the hands of big pharma - the only solution they'll ever come up with is a drug.
Why?! No one is forced to buy their products if they don’t work and they spend billions on developing new treatments.
If you remove their ability to conduct R&D you won’t increase public or charity sector R&D so all you’ll do is remove a massive source of innovation
Originally posted by EvanB
It seems that if you have worked hard all your life and paid into the system, if you get cancer or other terminal illness then you are no longer worthy so a death panel will decide that you are not worthy, cost too much, so will ensure your speedy dispatch off this mortal coil.
On the other side, if you are a waste of space druggy or alcoholic you will recieve any treatment you need, even though you probably have not paid a penny into the system and will probably go back to being a waste of space after treatment.
Either way, treatment and the prolonging of life should not be denied anyone. This is a very slippery slope indeed all for the sake of knobhead Camerons cuts.
For the sake of money a much loved family member cant have that few extra days or weeks with their family. They are surplus to requirements... The ultimate end result of empathy free Darwinism.. What next? Taking your family member to the doctors to get put down?
Thats where we are heading.
What next? Taking your family member to the doctors to get put down?