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Bake sale's racial pricing rocks UC Berkeley campus

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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by celticsea
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What does that matter? God loves us all. No matter what the color. Don't you realize you are being racists when you say these things.


So if you kick a dog every day for a month, do you get mad on day 31 that it bites you? You cant say "Hey dog, why are you so mad? That was all in the past!"

Do you expect the dog to whimper, to bite back, or to wag his tail when you ocme on day 31? Right now, you are expecting a wagging tail, and when you dont get, you say "Stupid dog! Dont you see I love you!"

Dont you understand that damage was done and must be repaired, not just forgotten?




posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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What’s fair is fair; I will not be hypocritical about it. If there were to be a race war with blacks lynching whites then whites would need to stand up for themselves. These mobs of racist minority youth are already roaming the streets attacking whites (although it is an incredibly rare event), I think it calls for greater self-defense and an awareness of our surroundings. I would suggest all intelligent wealthy (white, black, Asian, Hispanic) all move out of the large cities and let the places rot, chase all the tax payers out and watch the large cities collapse like Detroit.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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We are not are ancestors. Why can't we build a new world where race doesn't matter. We are all Gods children. We should forgive as the Lord asked us to.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

There are many facets of what you wrote in that paragraph that I have issues with, but let's start with the following: there are races that have NOTHING in the way of what you defined as "white" (Chinese, Iranians etc) who have not so shabby boats themselves. Have you been to Taiwan?


We are talking about in America, nice attempt at distraction and obfuscation.


Originally posted by buddhasystem
Because that means you are STEALING that chance from a deserving person, dude. I thought that was plain to see.


Yes, and we all know how forgiving the white people were after stealing land from the natives and labor from the blacks. They are so forgiving, they allow a couple of us to get an education! How nice of them!

Or did the natives not deserve the land stolen from them?



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by celticsea
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We are not are ancestors. Why can't we build a new world where race doesn't matter. We are all Gods children. We should forgive as the Lord asked us to.


LOL, how come your tone wasnt about forgiveness on page 1? Why cant you just forgive those who want a fair chance?
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by celticsea
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What does that matter? God loves us all. No matter what the color. Don't you realize you are being racists when you say these things.


So if you kick a dog every day for a month, do you get mad on day 31 that it bites you? You cant say "Hey dog, why are you so mad? That was all in the past!"

Do you expect the dog to whimper, to bite back, or to wag his tail when you ocme on day 31? Right now, you are expecting a wagging tail, and when you dont get, you say "Stupid dog! Dont you see I love you!"

Dont you understand that damage was done and must be repaired, not just forgotten?


If my great grandfather kicked a dog then I don't think that dog's great-great-great grandson should hold it against ME. I didn't kick the dog.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by celticsea
I saw this and thought it was disgusting. Why do white people get charged so much? All of us are not rich. I think this is reverse discrimination. What ever happpened to treating everybody equal?


Cant really be equal when the majority of minorities pull out the "victim" card at every opportunity. Time for change. Time for people to be "judged" on their ability/intelligence and nothing more.


Since Obama got elected, ti seems the poeple that want to play the race card alot are white.

Arent these Republican students playing the race card by doing this?


To show a point that whites are being discriminated against as well. If you scored very high on your SAT's and held a 3.7-4.0, and were involved in a lot of extracurricular activities you can be wait listed or not accepting because they, (the colleges) are trying to appear to be culturally diverse. Could they have done it in a different way? Sure. But they are kids, and trying to place yourself, having age, wisdom and experience isn't always the best way either. They are going to make mistakes. They don't have that age, wisdom or experience.If we focused on bringing the education levels up and not down many people could look past race, and judge each other on the content of their character.
And I personally have seen many more examples of blacks using the race card then whites. Remember the whole " I don't have to worry about paying my mortgage anymore?"
I don't think it has been Obama spreading racial divisions, but the people that have surrounded him sure have. The CBC, Many Unions white and black, remember the new Black Panther party at the polls intimidating people? Eric Holder dropped the case saying the didn't have enough evidence when many of the attorneys said it was a slam dunk case.
This racial division is disgusting and should play no part in today's society. Communities have to care and be involved with their local schools, parents need to be more involved with their children's education. I understand it is very hard for a lot of people these days working multiple jobs to take time out for their children.
At first glance I too was upset, but when I read the story at looked at the context with what these students were trying to accomplish it made a bit more sense.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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We cannot undo what has been done. We have to deal with what is today.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by celticsea
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What does that matter? God loves us all. No matter what the color. Don't you realize you are being racists when you say these things.


So if you kick a dog every day for a month, do you get mad on day 31 that it bites you? You cant say "Hey dog, why are you so mad? That was all in the past!"

Do you expect the dog to whimper, to bite back, or to wag his tail when you ocme on day 31? Right now, you are expecting a wagging tail, and when you dont get, you say "Stupid dog! Dont you see I love you!"

Dont you understand that damage was done and must be repaired, not just forgotten?


If my great grandfather kicked a dog then I don't think that dog's great-great-great grandson should hold it against ME. I didn't kick the dog.


But you benefitted from your grandfather kicking that dog. Thats what you cant understand. Just being white in America, Irish or not, you are immediately at an advantage over a person of color, whether you believe it or not, and whether you want it or not.

Like I said, Im mixed but look white. Ive seen it firsthand, you cant tell me it doesnt exist. I have been given countless opportunities over my relation mainly because of the tone of my skin.
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by stinger94


To show a point that whites are being discriminated against as well. If you scored very high on your SAT's and held a 3.7-4.0, and were involved in a lot of extracurricular activities you can be wait listed or not accepting because they, (the colleges) are trying to appear to be culturally diverse. Could they have done it in a different way?


If a person has a 4.0, they can get an education. They are whining because THEY MIGHT NOT GET TO GO TO THEIR FIRST SCHOOL OF CHOICE.

Its not like the poor white kid with a 4.0 is not going ot be admitted to any school. Stop being silly.
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by celticsea
We cannot undo what has been done. We have to deal with what is today.


Well, then when a gang of dudes kick in your door and your local police force, made up mainly of people of color, dont do anything about, then you will live with that decision and that mindset. im sure in the southwest it will be happening soon enough, or is now, with mexicans/latinos.

You can say "we cant undo", and then just aexpect people to bend over and take an ass #ing.
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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It goes both ways. You have to deal with the lot you have been given in life. Hatred and jealousy should have no part in it. don't you see we all have to deal with what we have. Stop whining and and do the est you can.


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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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To the victor go the spoils. The only reason some minorities are still crying is because they know it is acceptable for them to do so. For being so evil, us white people, we sure do put up with a lot of crap. If we were such terrible people we could strip you of all your rights and put you all on reservations, which are what it seems like you want us to do. Has any other race been so blamed as we are? How about the Africans who sold their fellow Africans to whites as slaves, they built damn posts just to do so but I don’t hear blacks in America complaining about how evil the Africans were to them by selling them in the first place.

We fought the natives of America in wars, we won the wars and so we got the land. Wars occurred between native American civilizations all the time, when one won the war they took the land, yet I do not hear whites crying on behalf of natives about how evil the natives were to each other. No it is a racial thing, you use the race card to your advantage knowing full well that white people are too damn programmed with shame of their past to even lift their heads to argue back, you own the debate, hell it’s not a debate it is one side owning all of the rules of engagement through manipulation.

Well guess what, read posts on news websites, blogs, etc… people are tired of this racial “poor me” and blame game crap. You win by your merit, not your color or what kind of boohoo card you can play. My family is from landlocked European country which was ruled over by feudal lords and invaded for centuries by Ottomans and Mongols; you don’t see me crying about how evil the Turks are. I don’t blame them because it is in the past. People will only accept this abuse against use in our own country for so long before some people snap, keep up the race card and innocent people will suffer the consequences of your actions.

But no surprise, then you will spin it around as the white man oppressing everyone else again. Typical behavior where you take absolutely no responsibility for your personal actions and the results it yields. Life is much easier blaming everyone else that way you do not have to fix yourselves. Not only that but you can freely talk so down on the dead, which is despicable, because you know they are not around to defend themselves from your attacks.

Call me a racist, I don’t care. The game is over, I and millions of others are fed up they are just too scared to speak up.


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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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What’s fair is fair; I will not be hypocritical about it. If there were to be a race war with blacks lynching whites then whites would need to stand up for themselves. These mobs of racist minority youth are already roaming the streets attacking whites (although it is an incredibly rare event), I think it calls for greater self-defense and an awareness of our surroundings. I would suggest all intelligent wealthy (white, black, Asian, Hispanic) all move out of the large cities and let the places rot, chase all the tax payers out and watch the large cities collapse like Detroit.


Star for you, for admitting your true thoughts, even if they are scary as hell. It seems you would rather have a race war than just give others a fair shake.....have fun with that, at least you have the balls to say what you feel, I respect that more than someone who says "i swear im not racist, but...."



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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I think you have a problem with white people. If someone kicks in my door because I have done something wrong then I will deal with it.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by celticsea
I have always thought people should be treated equal. The way the world is now with downsizing and shipping our jobs overseas, I think that we should be treated as all equal. Because we are all in the same boat.


It seems like alot of white people i generally know as prejudiced lately have been talking about "treating people equal" an awful lot, after mistreating the rest of the world for centuries. Funny how they want to forgive and forget, just as they are starting to lose their grip on power.


Funny how some people continue to look at past mistakes through the eyes of today's society and not think that it took all sides of society to put an end to those past injustices. Instead of looking at the past to place blame on past transgressions, why not look forward, like people in the past did, to try to solve today's problems without looking through the prism of race as you clearly did in this post? People you know that are prejudice are white, funny how they want to forgive and forget when they are about to lose their grip on power, that isn't race related is it? Fact is people are looking at the government not through racial eyes, but through a prism of what have you done for the country? Political confidence as at an all time low across the board, to include the President. Congress keeps passing legislation to help minorities get a good education. No problem, but doing it at the expense of others is no good either. There are poor and low middle class kids and adults from all across the spectrum so these children were focusing their anger on the fact that things aren't equal, and that a white superstar can't get a fair shake on being accepted into college and neither can a white poor kid. Everything is focused on minorities and not intelligence. Should minorities get help? Only if they need it. If they are rich or are an upper middle class person that happens to be black, Asian, Hispanic, native american, or any other group then no, they don't need the assistance and they should be judged like everyone else. If we truly want equality across the board, we need to increase the level of education across the board, and judge everyone the same.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by celticsea
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What does that matter? God loves us all. No matter what the color. Don't you realize you are being racists when you say these things.


So if you kick a dog every day for a month, do you get mad on day 31 that it bites you? You cant say "Hey dog, why are you so mad? That was all in the past!"

Do you expect the dog to whimper, to bite back, or to wag his tail when you ocme on day 31? Right now, you are expecting a wagging tail, and when you dont get, you say "Stupid dog! Dont you see I love you!"

Dont you understand that damage was done and must be repaired, not just forgotten?


If my great grandfather kicked a dog then I don't think that dog's great-great-great grandson should hold it against ME. I didn't kick the dog.


But you benefitted from your grandfather kicking that dog. Thats what you cant understand. Just being white in America, Irish or not, you are immediately at an advantage over a person of color, whether you believe it or not, and whether you want it or not.

Like I said, Im mixed but look white. Ive seen it firsthand, you cant tell me it doesnt exist. I have been given countless opportunities over my relation mainly because of the tone of my skin.
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I guess now isn't the time to trot out my Cherokee ancestors on my Grandmother's side? (I'm actually not kidding...you should see my mother and her family...you really really can see the Native American heritage in my mom's features....That being said, here in GA, I've never seen anyone discriminated against because of being Native American. That must be something that is more common where you live.)

I'm sorry you have seen racial discrimination in action. But you didn't see ME do it. Also, I cannot sit around feeling like crap because of something that happened generations ago.

I'm sorry all of these things happened in the past. But I feel no personal guilt or responsibility. It makes no sense for me to feel guilty over something I did not do and can't undo.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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To the victor go the spoils.

We fought the natives of America in wars


If thats what you call smallpox blankets...

and who is this we? you claim hungarian ancestry, but then you want to claim american ancestry as well? You want to take credit for everything "white", while not accepting any of the blame?

Your arguments are not well thought out; they are merely justifications.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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So what I'm hearing from a lot of posters here is that, as a white person, I am supposed to accept being discriminated against for the next 100 years because we have to atone for what "our ancestors" did to others in the past?

But as a part native myself, but looking really really white, do I only have to be half -discriminated against?

None of my ancestors owned or sold slaves, do I get an exemption? Can I have that in writing? Or am I doomed because I look like a vampire?



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by celticsea
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What does that matter? God loves us all. No matter what the color. Don't you realize you are being racists when you say these things.


So if you kick a dog every day for a month, do you get mad on day 31 that it bites you? You cant say "Hey dog, why are you so mad? That was all in the past!"

Do you expect the dog to whimper, to bite back, or to wag his tail when you ocme on day 31? Right now, you are expecting a wagging tail, and when you dont get, you say "Stupid dog! Dont you see I love you!"

Dont you understand that damage was done and must be repaired, not just forgotten?


If my great grandfather kicked a dog then I don't think that dog's great-great-great grandson should hold it against ME. I didn't kick the dog.


But you benefitted from your grandfather kicking that dog. Thats what you cant understand. Just being white in America, Irish or not, you are immediately at an advantage over a person of color, whether you believe it or not, and whether you want it or not.

Like I said, Im mixed but look white. Ive seen it firsthand, you cant tell me it doesnt exist. I have been given countless opportunities over my relation mainly because of the tone of my skin.
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I guess now isn't the time to trot out my Cherokee ancestors on my Grandmother's side? (I'm actually not kidding...you should see my mother and her family...you really really can see the Native American heritage in my mom's features....That being said, here in GA, I've never seen anyone discriminated against because of being Native American. That must be something that is more common where you live.)

I'm sorry you have seen racial discrimination in action. But you didn't see ME do it. Also, I cannot sit around feeling like crap because of something that happened generations ago.

I'm sorry all of these things happened in the past. But I feel no personal guilt or responsibility. It makes no sense for me to feel guilty over something I did not do and can't undo.




Im not saying feel guilty. Im saying acknowledge it, and help make it right. Dont you see how selfish it is for white people to whine "OMG I cant go to my number one choice in college, because some filthy black person took my spot!"? It wouldnt be that hard to help out and do the right thing, but for some reason, whites in america today have the balls to somehow feel shafted. Makes no sense.



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