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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by ModestMike
This Protest is NOT ABOUT Communism, are you kidding me? Are you guys saying you honestly enjoy how our Government is being run? We will Bail banks but Not give to our community nearly the amount of money that is needed? How many monopolies are going on right now in the business market? How many new jobs have been created? And you think this is about Communism? This protest is about Waking UP! They are trying to reach the big masses. So ! Please do so! I know you can and have the capabilities.
I am not, and never was for the baillouts. My issue is with the organizers. I think probably a lot of the protesters are sincere and I dont' blame then for being angry at the Big Dogs. I don't care to have my tax dollars go to give some big fund manager a huge bonus. But then why aren't these people on Obama's doorstep with this? oh, right because they blame Bush....and yet....Obama was for the baillout before he was POTUS.
Originally posted by jimbo999
Originally posted by Partisanity
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Socialists + Leftists =/= "commies"
Ermm...nope, it doesn't actually. Do you even know what the differences are? Ever been to a Socialist country? Ever been to a Communist country? I've been to both - and even lived in Socialist countries - and I can tell you, there is very little if any similarity at all...
Originally posted by SourGrapes
reply to post by TsukiLunar
You mentioned 'communal living' as being communist. What about 'communal dieing'? It is relevant, no? Well, since over 100 million people have been murdered in the name of 'Communism' in the twentienth century alone, I suppose your view may change, if you happened to end up in the 'wrong' community. Perhaps all of those who lost their lives, due to communist leaders: Stalin, Mao,and Rouge were free to choose their 'communal' death beds. (BTW, have you read any of the witness statements of how babies and other young 'communal' were put down? Read about it sometime. Make a game of it, 'they' did.)
I feel like some youngsters have the misconception that communism is a grand social party that just throws their daily earnings into one big pot and live happily together. Sadly, the most common shared 'pot' is in no way monetary, rather it's a melting urn of death, sorrow, fear, and disease.
The ONLY happy communists are the commie LEADERS, which is exactly why they will throw every penny they have into fooling the youth into it's fantasia. It's more like the carnival Pinochio was lead to, only with much dyer consequences. Capitalism is death to commie wanna-be-leaders, wihich is why they will stop short of death to destroy it's lively-hood.
BTW, you pick China as an example of current Commie success stories? Really? Let's see if you feel the same way, after a vacation to the country. How many dead female newborns willl you step over before you change your mind?edit on 27-9-2011 by SourGrapes because: so many spelling a grammar errors. ARGH it's late!
Originally posted by ARealandTrueAmerican
reply to post by Section31
So now you care claiming that anyone even mildly to the left of center is a Communist?
Originally posted by dn4cer2000
Question. How many have died in the name of Capitalism? How many atomic bombs have communists dropped on populated cities?
Originally posted by The_Zomar
Theres people here that ACTUALLY think that the protestors in NYC are .....communist? I'd say thats one of the more unique claims I've seen in the last week, and I even went to the cryptozoology forum a couple days ago.
A leaderless movement, with no certain objective in mind (They meet there because theres a general distaste in the government.) somehow are communists.
Originally posted by Daedal
reply to post by jimbo999
That would be Democratic Socialism:
Democratic socialism is a description used by various socialist movements and organizations to emphasize the democratic character of their political orientation. Democratic socialism is contrasted with political movements that resort to authoritarian means to achieve a transition to socialism, instead advocating for the immediate creation of decentralized economic democracy from the grassroots level, undertaken by and for the working class itself. Specifically, it is a term used to distinguish between socialists who favor a grassroots-level, spontaneous revolution or Gradualism over Leninism – organized revolution instigated and directed by an overarching Vanguard party that operates on the basis of democratic centralism.
Democratic socialism is difficult to define, and groups of scholars have radically different definitions for the term. Some definitions simply refer to all forms of socialism that follow an electoral, reformist or evolutionary path to socialism, rather than a revolutionary one. Often, this definition is invoked to distinguish democratic socialism from communism, as in Donald Busky's Democratic Socialism: A Global Survey, Jim Tomlinson's Democratic Socialism and Economic Policy: The Attlee Years, 1945-1951, Norman Thomas Democratic Socialism: a new appraisal or Roy Hattersley's Choose Freedom: The Future of Democratic Socialism. But for those who use the term in this way, the scope of the term "socialism" itself can be very vague, and include forms of socialism compatible with capitalism. For example, Robert M. Page, a Reader in Democratic Socialism and Social Policy at the University of Birmingham, writes about "transformative democratic socialism" to refer to the politics of the Clement Attlee government (a strong welfare state, fiscal redistribution, some nationalisation) and "revisionist democratic socialism", as developed by Anthony Crosland and Harold Wilson: