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"Occupy Wallstreet," the Communists in sheeps clothing.

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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Anyone who wants to dig into this stuff of who's organizing will find out the following,

October 11 group is heavily involved
which is a project of the Alliance for Global Justice
Their list of partner organizations from their own publication shows, ANSWER, Code Pink, the Green Party, the New Progressive Alliance, People for a New Society, Single Payer Action etc

All commies, just the facts.

Anyone who denies it is either stubborn, or intentionally disingenuous.


If these are 'facts', can you offer some of these corroborating 'facts' as evidence?




posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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"Just the facts"? Let's look at the facts in the 2005 Citibank memo leaked by a conscientious employee....

docs.google.com...



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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That would be Democratic Socialism:
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Democratic socialism is a description used by various socialist movements and organizations to emphasize the democratic character of their political orientation. Democratic socialism is contrasted with political movements that resort to authoritarian means to achieve a transition to socialism, instead advocating for the immediate creation of decentralized economic democracy from the grassroots level, undertaken by and for the working class itself. Specifically, it is a term used to distinguish between socialists who favor a grassroots-level, spontaneous revolution or Gradualism over Leninism – organized revolution instigated and directed by an overarching Vanguard party that operates on the basis of democratic centralism.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by jimbo999

Originally posted by NorEaster
"The enemy of my enemy...."

When things get this bad, who cares who it is that kills the threat. Communists can't win over the American culture, but if they can knock off the corporates who've lined us up as easy prey, then we might be able to co-exist for the time being. God bless those strange bedfellows.


They're not Communists
Just people with a social conscience. Besides, the 'Red under the bed' Communist bogeyman is nothing more than another mythology designed to scare you into submission and servitude. Ever read 1984?


Yes, I read 1984 in the 70's and it made a huge impact on me. But in case you didn't get the memo it was written about the communist party.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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Around three and a half hours ago, the person who organized the protest talked on NPR news. According to the group's founding member, the movement is being used to spread social and progressive ideologies. You are correct in your assessment. Many of their ideologies originate from the left wing. Michael Moore had also voiced his support for the group on NPR news. Keith Olbermann is also a supporter of the group.

Link: en.wikipedia.org...

Support for the demonstration amongst mainstream liberal groups varied. Progressive blogger Zaid Jilani, writing for ThinkProgress, wrote that the protesters' anger against Wall Street banks was not unreasonable "because Wall Street’s actions made tens of millions of people dramatically poorer through no fault of their own"; however, Jilani also wrote that "debates about the tactics and strategy behind an anti-Wall Street campaign are warranted."[16] The left-wing blog Crooks and Liars offered more praise of the effort, with blogger Susie Madrak writing, "I have a feeling this might be a good one."[17]

Its a Democrat movement.

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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by ARealandTrueAmerican

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Anyone who wants to dig into this stuff of who's organizing will find out the following,

October 11 group is heavily involved
which is a project of the Alliance for Global Justice
Their list of partner organizations from their own publication shows, ANSWER, Code Pink, the Green Party, the New Progressive Alliance, People for a New Society, Single Payer Action etc

All commies, just the facts.

Anyone who denies it is either stubborn, or intentionally disingenuous.


If these are 'facts', can you offer some of these corroborating 'facts' as evidence?



What do you think Single Payer is? Green Party yes very socialist, Code Pink leftist, New Progressive....lol Progressive is the key there. Code Pink is funded by Soros and probably some of the others too.
Hillary called herself a Progressive and in her campaign ad was calling for both Universal healthcare(socialist) and Universal pre-k(more socialism).



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by jimbo999
reply to post by Daedal

Jeez - people wanting democracy, social justice, freedom from tyranny, and a re-thinking of the global corporate mess the world now finds itself in too!

My god! Who the hell do these people think they are??? Hey wait a minute! Isn't that pretty much what 90% of ATS'ers call for here day in, day out??

The nerve of these people!!!




edit on 27-9-2011 by jimbo999 because: (no reason given)



See Jimbo, one has to be able to see the language of these groups. Terms like Democracy and social justice are almost always used by socialists. That is their modus operandi, and it sounds a lot nicer than "bringing down the market" or "there's going to be blood in the streets", and I think that was Jimmy Hoffa recently. "Social justice" is usally a reference to income redistribution or some other socialist goal.


edit on 27-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)


Yes I know what 'social justice' means. I also understand the terms socialist, capitalist, communist, anarchist, and pretty well any other 'ist' you can come up with
However, I don't see anything intrinsically wrong with socialism really - as long as it's managed properly. Many western European countries are socialist - and have been for generations. Britain, Sweden, Denmark, France....etc etc. There's nothing specifically wrong with a socialist system really...



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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Socialists + Leftists =/= "commies"



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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This Protest is NOT ABOUT Communism, are you kidding me? Are you guys saying you honestly enjoy how our Government is being run? We will Bail banks but Not give to our community nearly the amount of money that is needed? How many monopolies are going on right now in the business market? How many new jobs have been created? And you think this is about Communism? This protest is about Waking UP! They are trying to reach the big masses. So ! Please do so! I know you can and have the capabilities.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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Theres people here that ACTUALLY think that the protestors in NYC are .....communist? I'd say thats one of the more unique claims I've seen in the last week, and I even went to the cryptozoology forum a couple days ago.

A leaderless movement, with no certain objective in mind (They meet there because theres a general distaste in the government.) somehow are communists.




posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by TheFlash
"Just the facts"? Let's look at the facts in the 2005 Citibank memo leaked by a conscientious employee....

docs.google.com...



Just so people know, I am not for CitiGroup any more than I am for Soros. That is why it is so hard for people to figure this stuff out, because the big banks and bankers have funded revolutions and radicals since the Bolsheviks. Rockefellers funded Bolsheviks, and Bush and Harriman, Brown Root and Kellog funded Hitler. The stock market was used to get backers to fund businesses. When was the last time you could walk up to a bank and get funding for your Coldstone Franchise or that little pizza joint you wanted? Bringing down Wall Street is attacking Capitalism and the market. Socialists want to replace it with a system owned and run by the proletariat.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Anyone who wants to dig into this stuff of who's organizing will find out the following,

October 11 group is heavily involved
which is a project of the Alliance for Global Justice
Their list of partner organizations from their own publication shows, ANSWER, Code Pink, the Green Party, the New Progressive Alliance, People for a New Society, Single Payer Action etc

All commies, just the facts.

Anyone who denies it is either stubborn, or intentionally disingenuous.


The Green Party are communist?? LOL! You'd better tell them that then! They be pretty shocked to hear that..

2nd



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by TheFlash
"Just the facts"? Let's look at the facts in the 2005 Citibank memo leaked by a conscientious employee....

docs.google.com...



Just so people know, I am not for CitiGroup any more than I am for Soros. That is why it is so hard for people to figure this stuff out, because the big banks and bankers have funded revolutions and radicals since the Bolsheviks. Rockefellers funded Bolsheviks, and Bush and Harriman, Brown Root and Kellog funded Hitler. The stock market was used to get backers to fund businesses. When was the last time you could walk up to a bank and get funding for your Coldstone Franchise or that little pizza joint you wanted? Bringing down Wall Street is attacking Capitalism and the market. Socialists want to replace it with a system owned and run by the proletariat.


I think you mean 'by the people, for the people' don't you? Isn't that one of the founding principles of the US Constitution?



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by ModestMike
This Protest is NOT ABOUT Communism, are you kidding me? Are you guys saying you honestly enjoy how our Government is being run? We will Bail banks but Not give to our community nearly the amount of money that is needed? How many monopolies are going on right now in the business market? How many new jobs have been created? And you think this is about Communism? This protest is about Waking UP! They are trying to reach the big masses. So ! Please do so! I know you can and have the capabilities.


I am not, and never was for the baillouts. My issue is with the organizers. I think probably a lot of the protesters are sincere and I dont' blame then for being angry at the Big Dogs. I don't care to have my tax dollars go to give some big fund manager a huge bonus. But then why aren't these people on Obama's doorstep with this? oh, right because they blame Bush....and yet....Obama was for the baillout before he was POTUS.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by ModestMike
This Protest is NOT ABOUT Communism, are you kidding me? Are you guys saying you honestly enjoy how our Government is being run? We will Bail banks but Not give to our community nearly the amount of money that is needed? How many monopolies are going on right now in the business market? How many new jobs have been created? And you think this is about Communism? This protest is about Waking UP! They are trying to reach the big masses. So ! Please do so! I know you can and have the capabilities.

Tea-Party = Conservative Movement.
OccupyWallStreet = Progressive Movement.

Even though many of the protestors were there for other reasons, they are being used by the left-wing to promote progressivism and socialism. Left-wing socialism is just as bad as right-wing socialism. Technically, the Progressive Democrats will put a spin on these protests, so they can make it look like everyone is in support of Obama. OccupyWallStreet is falling to the same fate as the TeaParty. Instead of being taken over by the Conservatives, the movement is being taken over by the Progressive Democrats.

I am willing to bet a Democrat leaning Union will hijack the movement into a political rally to get Obama re-elected.
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Partisanity
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Socialists + Leftists =/= "commies"


Ermm...nope, it doesn't actually. Do you even know what the differences are? Ever been to a Socialist country? Ever been to a Communist country? I've been to both - and even lived in Socialist countries - and I can tell you, there is very little if any similarity at all...



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by jimbo999

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by TheFlash
"Just the facts"? Let's look at the facts in the 2005 Citibank memo leaked by a conscientious employee....

docs.google.com...



Just so people know, I am not for CitiGroup any more than I am for Soros. That is why it is so hard for people to figure this stuff out, because the big banks and bankers have funded revolutions and radicals since the Bolsheviks. Rockefellers funded Bolsheviks, and Bush and Harriman, Brown Root and Kellog funded Hitler. The stock market was used to get backers to fund businesses. When was the last time you could walk up to a bank and get funding for your Coldstone Franchise or that little pizza joint you wanted? Bringing down Wall Street is attacking Capitalism and the market. Socialists want to replace it with a system owned and run by the proletariat.


I think you mean 'by the people, for the people' don't you? Isn't that one of the founding principles of the US Constitution?


Don't confuse the Founding Fathers and the Constitution with socialism, please please please. The Constitution was not written to espouse socialism. The Founding Fathers espoused freedom and liberty and individual rights, socialism and communism espouse collective rights.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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So now you care claiming that anyone even mildly to the left of center is a Communist?



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Labeling those that want to reform Walstreet as Communists? Good grief. These are people that want Wallstreet reformed. They want increased oversight and regulations due to it being quite clear that Wallstreet can't police themselves. Though I suppose it will take another huge Wallstreet bailout before those running around screaming Communist will wake up to the fact that the corruption affects all of us.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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as a father of 3 young kids, i also want communism. i teach them to share, i dont want them to just compete. look at people these days, we compete at everything, even stupid comments on blogs, capitalism is just a game of monopoly----there is only one winner in the end.
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