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"Occupy Wallstreet," the Communists in sheeps clothing.

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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar
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This group is also associated with Anonymous..I'll have to start digging up info on that as well.


Anonymous isn't some kind of coherent organization. If your talking about "a connection to anon" being the same as posting on 4-chan then i guess statistically someone in the group frequents the board. As for being connected to higher ups, anon is just hackers with no direction except a hive mind that flows uncomprehendingly.

What i am trying to say is, good luck!


You can keep saying whatever you want, but this post alone shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

Stop saying Anonymous has no higher-ups when anyone who has been around from the beginning would know better than that. CommanderX (who got arrested recently lol) doesn't exist and doesn't give orders to the group? Nobody runs the official WhyWeProtest site? Nobody excepts donations or sells members masks, shirts, etc..? Just random people, huh?

Oh and when you all talk about this "great" hive mind of Anonymous, it just proves one thing:

None of you can think or act for yourselves.

Just do what your non-existant leaders tell you to do. Don't question them at all, just do it. Even if a small part of you says this may not be right, do it anyway so you can fit in. So you can feel like you're changing the world. All you people have been doing lately is whining. The protest turned into different small groups of people whining about not being given free pizza and Starbucks. Then other small groups randomly attacking cops to try and get a violent reaction from them so you all can cry some more about being beaten or maced. Even video exists all over the net to prove that's what is really going on and you act like it doesn't exist.

Anonymous and any little group it's connected to is a huge joke and is quickly becoming a giant FAIL. Anonymous, the ORIGINAL and REAL Anonymous that started it all was actually a great idea that all you immature, mask-wearing cowards destroyed. Even the original members are sick of you all. Some are even turning you all in LOL











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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 01:53 AM
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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by ARealandTrueAmerican

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
atleast Communists care for wokers unlike the system we have now. people on wall street arent Communists quick to bash communism eh?
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They do?

Can you give some examples of communists' 'caring for workers'?

Thanks in advance!



Atleast in Greece Greeks want the Communist System since when capitalism has ever worked?



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy
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I agree.

No matter what, somebody somewhere finds a way to make a good thing seem evil. It's all I read on this website now. You people are polluting this website. If you honestly believe that communists are running the Occupy Wallstreet protests, well I feel deeply sorry for you. Oh, and to the poster who says CommanderX was the one who "gave orders" to Anonymous. .

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1. CommanderX was the leader of a group called PLF (People's Liberation Front). Yes affiliated with Anonymous, but he stressed the fact that his group was separate. Clearly not the leader you are looking for.

2. The only person considered "leader" of Anonymous would be Sabu (who will be v& soon anyways). He seems to have the biggest following in the group as an individual.

3. You really don't know anything about the group do you?
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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar
I don't know why people bash communism. It IS the reason we have survived as a species till now. You should thank communism for getting us to the point where its even practical to practice capitalism. We owe a great deal to communism- your life for starters.


I agree and I'm no commie. People in the US are close minded, easily brainwashed and entrenched in dogmatic beliefs they don't even understand.

Ya, so what's wrong with communism or socialism? They're both democratic (shocking to some I bet).

Communism and socialism take into account the collective benefit of all and promotes sharing and good will.

Captialism takes into the account the benefit of the individual and promotes greed and selfishness.

Which of the two sounds bad in the bad economy where millions of people are losing their jobs? A system with social safety net or one without? Ask this question to a starving family about to lose everything because they lost their jobs.

The truth is Capitalism created this economic cluster # due to the social morals it indirectly and directly promotes (greed)! Worst yet are the rich bankers who orchestrated this to happen got much richer, screwed the little guy (YOU!) and they were never punished!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

It's not the ideologies of communism, social or capitalism that are the problem. It's us, the humans!! We classify this system over that system and give them labels. Instinctively we choose one either through upbringing or political propaganda and then become loyalists of the ideology without truly understand it or others and their true consequences. Think for yourself. Forget those 1950s propaganda videos claiming communist and socialists were devils and demons and that capitalism was perfect. Nothing is perfect.



The US hasn't been perfect nor defending the world and preserving freedoms. They, via the extreme and ultra rich capitalist, we "free people" were actually enslaving nations under an economic system that imposed massive debt. Slavery through debt (and interest payments to us). We see now the loan collector has come to collect. The US, more correctly the rich capitalists, have been waging war on the world for self interest and anything or anyone who saw through the veil of lies was labelled THE ENEMY. The USSR was the enemy because they were a superpower plain and simple. It wasn't the economic system they choose to use that was the enemy. They were a threat militarily (arms race remember). Because they were the enemy, the US labelled everything USSR as evil.

EDUCATE YOURSELF!! SERIOUSLY!!







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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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naaaaah, they're not commies per se. fake commies? more like it.
if you want commies "commies" go to russia or eastern europe.
these pampered, white western folk don't know jack # about
communism. especially americans. but hey, it did get a decent
coverage though.

unfortunately, brangelina was not able to attend. therefore the whole
event was rendered useless.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by CantSay
Communism and socialism take into account the collective benefit of all and promotes sharing and good will.


lol. tell that to the people of russia or eastern europe, for example. look how good they're living.
on account of communism. you clueless white, privileged, western folk. you know jack #
about communism.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by psyop911

Originally posted by CantSay
Communism and socialism take into account the collective benefit of all and promotes sharing and good will.


lol. tell that to the people of russia or eastern europe, for example. look how good they're living.
on account of communism. you clueless white, privileged, western folk. you know jack #
about communism.


I know a lot of all political systems and economic systems (they're not the same!!!). Some countries in the East my friend label themselves communist but operate under a political system of dictatorship. Take China and Cuba for example. They promote that they're communist and democractic, but really it's a dictatorship by a group of few operating an economic system of communism (sort of). It's their own flavor or communism.

I have no idea what you're talking about Russia being communist. They're capitalist now and most people are worse off.

You assume a lot. Read more.
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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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If I’ve learned anything over the past few years watching the dysfunction that we call Congress, it’s that everything is negotiable and everything can be used as a bargaining chip. Take this UN vote for Palestinian statehood. This is primo bargaining power if you ask me. The Republicans have perfected this way of doing business, they always get something for anything they give, the Democrats really need to start thinking this way and strategizing a little better. This vote for statehood is HUGE!!! Don’t just give it away or vote withIsrael because they are our allies, NEGOTIATE!!!

Nothing against Israel at all, honest, I’m just here seeking peace for all party’s involved, I don’t judge people by the color of their skin, their religion, or their bank account, I judge them by their character and how they treat me. Being the Catholic School Girl that I am, I don’t really know a lot about Israel or the Jewish faith, but the little bit that I do know is that this vote could create a win/win situation for both Israel and Palestine, and keep them both in the U.S.’s good graces. Here’s how:

thirdrail.blog.com...



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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The Agent

These communists
Punk kids, carrying out the agenda of Mao and Stalin
Trying to punish people for being successful
They just want a hand me out,
Fawking punks!
What'd the banks do to them?
They should be mad at the global elite
Not banks
The banks are.... well... banks, they lone money
give out smiles and build dreams
If you don't like apple pie, you probably love the Kremlin
Banks can make your pie come true
People give BJ's for what banks do
But banks don't demand BJ's
I like that
You like that
We all like that
Fawking commie punks!
Be against the Global Elite
Not the Banks
What did the banks ever do to you?


Mastahunta

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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 03:03 AM
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Do want the truth? This is Stephen Lerner folks, "we have to fabricate a grass roots activist movement that can't be tied to the unions".

Sorry, but the truth on this one will require several minutes of your time:

Let me take you back in time 189 days when Stephen Lerner told us this would happen on Glenn Beck:

www.youtube.com...

More good stuff from Mr. Lerner here:

mrctv.org...

On a similiar note, and again racing back in time to 5 months ago, read the responses by Umm Duh in the comments section at the bottom of the following article about a DOJ Federal Police force being called into police New Orleans, there's two rather prophetic comments by UmmDuh:

www.disinfo.com...

I hate to say it, but I think Umm Duh is on to something as he describes Bezmenov's "Normalization" paradigm to a T, which makes me think he's more versed in subversion than just reading Rules for Radicals. The Soviet's all were put into a position where communism sounded like a wonderful idea, just listen to Yuri Bezmenov:

www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

Pay special attention to what Bezmenov says about lists, and then consider the purpose of:

www.aclu.org...

Could these Days of Rage be what UmmDuh referred to for this Fall? Could these Days of Rage be the destabilization that Stephen Lerner was orchestrating to bring about a crisis and therefore a Bezmenov "Normalization" period.

No one has to look much further than the contents of this post for the truth.

It was a Green Spring and a Hot Summer. I hope you used your time wisely and prepared for the Hard Fall.

We should all pray, or send wishful thoughts, to those who will be the pawns (useful idiots) in all of this. Their fates will be far worse than the rest of us.

I'm signing off and getting off the grid now, good luck fellow sheep and be wary the shepards you follow for there will be many armed with good intentions for the collective salvation; all while damning you, the individual. Beware the one who makes beautiful promises, any promises anytime soon are lies. Know your morality and principles in both heart and mind for they will be more important in your time left than science, wealth, and medicine combined.

God Spede You All,
GG



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by GenerationGap
Do want the truth? This is Stephen Lerner folks, "we have to fabricate a grass roots activist movement that can't be tied to the unions".

Sorry, but the truth on this one will require several minutes of your time:

Let me take you back in time 189 days when Stephen Lerner told us this would happen on Glenn Beck:

www.youtube.com...

More good stuff from Mr. Lerner here:

mrctv.org...

On a similiar note, and again racing back in time to 5 months ago, read the responses by Umm Duh in the comments section at the bottom of the following article about a DOJ Federal Police force being called into police New Orleans, there's two rather prophetic comments by UmmDuh:

www.disinfo.com...

I hate to say it, but I think Umm Duh is on to something as he describes Bezmenov's "Normalization" paradigm to a T, which makes me think he's more versed in subversion than just reading Rules for Radicals. The Soviet's all were put into a position where communism sounded like a wonderful idea, just listen to Yuri Bezmenov:

www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

Pay special attention to what Bezmenov says about lists, and then consider the purpose of:

www.aclu.org...

Could these Days of Rage be what UmmDuh referred to for this Fall? Could these Days of Rage be the destabilization that Stephen Lerner was orchestrating to bring about a crisis and therefore a Bezmenov "Normalization" period.

No one has to look much further than the contents of this post for the truth.

It was a Green Spring and a Hot Summer. I hope you used your time wisely and prepared for the Hard Fall.

We should all pray, or send wishful thoughts, to those who will be the pawns (useful idiots) in all of this. Their fates will be far worse than the rest of us.

I'm signing off and getting off the grid now, good luck fellow sheep and be wary the shepards you follow for there will be many armed with good intentions for the collective salvation; all while damning you, the individual. Beware the one who makes beautiful promises, any promises anytime soon are lies. Know your morality and principles in both heart and mind for they will be more important in your time left than science, wealth, and medicine combined.

God Spede You All,
GG




You are spreading propaganda.

The Elites, who earn hardily from their bank holdings will not intentionally
destroy their primary cash machine. You re an agent for the banks, who uses fear
to divert the healthy ire aimed at the seat of elite power.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar
I don't know why people bash communism. It IS the reason we have survived as a species till now. You should thank communism for getting us to the point where its even practical to practice capitalism. We owe a great deal to communism- your life for starters.


My life? Yeah I doubt it



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar

I will get to this if you answer me one first. Who or what is the power base/leaders in a capitalist society(it starts with 'mon' and ends with 'ey')?
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Monkeys?




posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 04:17 AM
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Anyone who has a thought left of what Ron Paul would think is a communist, anyone who believes in equality and social justice is a communist, anyone who wants to see bankers be charged for their crimes you guessed it ... a communist. It seems certain right wingers on this site want to expunge any responsibility corporate capitalism has had on America. It's all a big plot by the lefties. Everything is the fault of those on the left. Everything is a communist plot. Meanwhile capitalist bankers rub their hands together as they fleece the country. The brain washing by the corporate media has done wonders for the Crony Capitalists, just ask Rupert Murdoch. Oh he's probably a communist too right?
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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 04:32 AM
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Thank, you, thank you, thank you...for actually creating content that addfs to the thread,whether to support or oppose the OPs theory, it's the progression of the debate that is important. The post below yours is a beautiful example of what kills informative and otherwise rational debate.


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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 04:48 AM
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Stop making so much sense, you're scaring away the rhetoric-flinging pseudo-trolls.




posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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I had assessed the same thing and even assumed it before digging into a bit myself. I am not so offended by the actions of NYPD towards protesters as many are because I feel there is some really bad mojo behind this and frankly, I think the motivation and initial setting of this so called movement is for it's own ulterior motives. I am deeply concerned by American citizens who are being duped into this Guise movement though.

It's my opinion that the quicker these people are removed from the streets the safer they are. I only feel that way because I question the powers behind the movement and not the peaceful assemblies. The Progressive/Socialist/Communist movements did this so many times in American history when the USA was in real divergence of it's cultural/political evolution. It's easy for them to take advantage of good nature and innocent fed up citizens for there own means.

I don't want anyone else getting hurt for lies and deceptions be brought about people who want to stop the same exact mentality. They are as we all are truly vulnerable to these things right now in our country and around the world.

On a side note, I do have issue with people being maced in the face for no good reason though.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by Daedal
"I'm sure we're all familiar with the occupy Wallstreet protests,which have been happening for about the last week and a half or so.What I am have done was taken a closer look at the activist organizations and grassroot movements which have helped support and launch the occupy Wallstreet campaign,and the more I have dug,the more revealing this occupation has become,and it's ties to socialist global movements,which is of it's self a form of Communism."


Right on. Here we go again kids. Blaming the commies. Hey man if you really believe what you say then just remember that every time you buy something a Walmart you are supporting communism because that is the political system in China and everything for sale in Walmart (almost) comes from there.

Yeeeaaaaaaa.... Let's hear it for communism folks. Let's hear it for free markets too that don't mind doing business with communism.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 05:54 AM
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From my understanding the city gave them permits which is why they can sleep where they sleep. So if they're permitting communism, aren't they also in sighting violence and communism. Kinda makes you sound a lil silly. Maybe you should get up there and learn how to have the balls to stand up and scream for you and your own.



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