Originally posted by Cold Steel
Round 3... Ding Ding...
In case you haven't realised, this is not a debate. You made some statements. I commented on them. If you don't like having people disagree with
you, then you should place them on your ignore list or not post to public forums.
Why are you so willing and eager to start a discussion about something that was not included in this thread?
What in the world are you talking about? If your point was the 'people should be nice to eather other' then that should've been the title of the
thread, not the current one. And if you don't want to discuss 'the john titor issue' then simply stop discussing them.
all that we are going on is the fact that someone started to post on a forum a few years ago... and that's about it.
Actually it was in an ICQ chat but I don't suppose thats much of a difference. We also know that there are laws of physics that are ludicrously
violated in the john titor story, and that these make it not worth treating as anything other than a fraud.
up any photo editing program that you'd like, but that is not what I'm here to discuss.
Ok then stop talking about it.
I believe you are posting here off topic because it allows you to be heard... however faint it might be.
Giving input about john titor in a thread about john titor is obviously not off topic. Even if you had some other issue actually in mind that you
wanted to talk about when you posted you -did- start off by talking about john titor, and wondering why people dismiss or reject it.
You instead persist on creating issues with wordy paragraphs in hopes that someone out there will believe or pity you.
Uhm, you were the one who brought up john titor. You were the one who wondered why people don't beleive it.
Did you honestly think that one day, everything would snap into place, and people would run to the countryside, police would instantly begin
entrenching on people's rights, and Bush would just come out and say Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction?
Ok, now you are again referencing the john titor story. Are you going to pretend that I am being off topic by responding to this?
If you find no meaning in Titor's post, then you aren't looking.
Well while you were looking for meaning some people noticed that the story was fraudulent, a hoax.
Here's a news flash for you. Scientists have been making amazing breakthroughs that will allow them to capture black holes over the next 5
If i'm not mistaken, Dr. Hawking, the leading guru for advancing our knowledge of black holes, has recently said some stunning things as of
late. Perhaps you should check it out for yourself.
Ok, again you are referncing john titor and aspects of his story.
So let me get this straight, when I bring up some things that show his story to be 'not true', I am being off topic, meaningless, and blind. But
when you think that steven hawkings new research on how black holes disipate is topical? And what reseach suggest that black holes can be captured in
anything like the way john titor claims they are? Or am i being off topic by requesting that?
In the article, he says that it won't be possible to travel to other universes. But his findings said that it would be possible to travel
within our own timeline. Now with a breakthrough like this, do you really think that we won't advance this technology?
I understand why people look up to stephen hawking. I do not understand why anyone would think that a causual comment in a general newspaper
interview by him is a 'break through', and no, I don't think that technology will be advanced ,by the ultra radical militas that the john titor
story has comming out of a global nuclear holocaust, to such a degree as to allow mini black holes to float around and bend laser light but nothing
else around them.
As far as this not being big news or people not caring, I think you're wrong. Actually, it was quite disturbing for the people of that time.
Irregardless the greeks demonstrated thousands of years before columbous that the world was infact round. The public however was uneducated on the
matter. Its this lack of education or an unwillingness to apply reason that is a problem.
Here we go with Christ. [...] You don't think that it's possible in the least that Peter fudged some of what was said?
Again, you are the one who brought up christ and made the claim that he didn't want to establish some sort of religion. Now you are saying that the
bible does indicate this, but thats because people misrememered it. First off I find it hard to beleive that the very apostles he was associated with
'misremebered' things such that they thought he in fact did want to start a religion, irregardless of how 'emotional' it was. And secondly if
everything has been 'misremebered' in this way, what reason is there to think that he didn't want to start a new religion in the first place? I
mean, you keep saying that everyone misinterpreted everything, but then what makes you so special that you are somehow able to 'get the
Baptism is not Christian specific, as I'm sure you'd like to believe.
I could give two craps about whether or not baptism is a purely christian ritual, and I never even hinted that it was.
you see it as actually picking up a cross and getting nailed to it.
You are incorrect, and you certainly haven't been given enough information to even approach being able to make any such assesment.
So I'd like you to do me a favor.
Mat 16:18 And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church
Matthew 18:16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three
witnesses.' 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a
pagan or a tax collector.
You're section on the "Basics" was quite revealing. You showed your ability to copy/paste. Nice job.
I cut and pasted absolutely nothing in that section. 'Nice'
If you read my original argument, I believe I stated specifically that I neither believe nor do I not believe in John Titor.
Ok, so you can't figure out that it was a hoax. Fine. And, agian, I didn't say that you did one way or the other.
As far as you believing that I only want to be agreed with...
Have I asked anyone to agree with me?
Nope, but when I started talking about some of the problems with beleiving the titor story you suggested that I 'stick the lazor'. Certainly seems
like you aren't able to deal with having people say things you don't like. Heck, in the begining, I didn't say 'you are wrong, titor is dumb' I
merely talked about why people reject the Titor story, a subject that you brought up in the first place. And now in this post of yours you are
telling me I am off topic.
Have I asked for your approval?
Did I suggest you did or did not receive it? Why are you apparently obsessed with my approval?
Infact, all of my posts have been arguments about the original thread
This -is- the original thread, and I haven't brought up anything that you didn't bring up in the first place
... with the exception of dissecting a few of your own retorts.
Dissecting would require addressing at least some of the points I brought it. You said 'but stephen hawking is cool' and that time travel may be
possible. Good job. Excellent dissection.
If you don't want to talk about it, then don't bother talking about.