Round 3... Ding Ding...
Allow me to start with retracting one of my previous statements. I should not have said the bit about people like you reading posts like these... I
should have seen that it was inevitable.
Now, if my aim is off, and you aren't scared of the issue, then I shall pose a question. Why are you so willing and eager to start a discussion
about something that was not included in this thread? While the title is "the real john titor issue," it is only being used as a reference point to
a much larger and diverse question... Exactly what road are we on?
As far as discussing the Titor issue with you is much like the blind leading the blind, as I don't know any more about it than you do. In fact, all
that we are going on is the fact that someone started to post on a forum a few years ago... and that's about it. You can get stirred up if you want
to, and open up any photo editing program that you'd like, but that is not what I'm here to discuss. I'm sure you can find plenty of other people
that will argue the specifics about what was said and what wasn't with thousands of other people. And in reality, I believe you are posting here off
topic because it allows you to be heard... however faint it might be.
Now, as far as you proving my point... I couldn't have asked for a better guinnea pig. Not only have you entered on your own free will, but now you
are willing to dig yourself a hole by not looking at what is presented to you. You instead persist on creating issues with wordy paragraphs in hopes
that someone out there will believe or pity you. My friend that isn't here.
And you must be blind if you believe that we are not on a crash course. Did you honestly think that one day, everything would snap into place, and
people would run to the countryside, police would instantly begin entrenching on people's rights, and Bush would just come out and say Iraq had no
weapons of mass destruction? I believe you have watched too many movies. If you find no meaning in Titor's post, then you aren't looking.
Furthermore, I believe all of your evidence for shooting him down is based on what others have said and what research others have done. So before you
start throwing "facts" around, I would make sure I research and test them on my own first. Here's a news flash for you. Scientists have been
making amazing breakthroughs that will allow them to capture black holes over the next 5 years. If i'm not mistaken, Dr. Hawking, the leading guru
for advancing our knowledge of black holes, has recently said some stunning things as of late. Perhaps you should check it out for yourself.
In the article, he says that it won't be possible to travel to other universes. But his findings said that it would be possible to travel within our
own timeline. Now with a breakthrough like this, do you really think that we won't advance this technology? C'mon.
On to the Columbus issue. The most important thing about your argument is the word "thought." Yes, many people think. But Columbus bet his life
that he was right. And it turns out, he was. As far as this not being big news or people not caring, I think you're wrong. Actually, it was quite
disturbing for the people of that time.
Here we go with Christ. You are basing your argument on what was said. Keep this FACT in mind. The first bible was not written until 40 years after
Christ's death. Let's suppose that you had to write an accurate account of the attack on Sept. 11th. What would it include? Hijackers... 4 plane
crashes, buildings... and that's about it. Now, to prove this point. Can you remember one full conversation that you had with someone the day
before it happened? Why is that? Because something that tramatic seems to come to the forefront. Now let's multiply that lost information by 13
and see how well you remember. My calculation is based on the fact that Sept. 11 occurred approx. 3 years ago, and I'm comparing it to the 40 years
or so that the bible was written. You don't think that it's possible in the least that Peter fudged some of what was said? Think about it.
Infact, Christianity didn't even start until the 2nd or 3rd century. You also brought up the point of baptism... I have a news flash for you here as
well. Do you know why he was baptised? Baptism was a pagan ceremony used to demonstrate a cleansing. Baptism is not Christian specific, as I'm
sure you'd like to believe. Therefore, this is only a classic case of monkey see monkey do. And yes, we are the monkey's. Christ simply said...
Pick up your cross and follow in my footsteps. The great thing about people is that I see it as treating people with respect and humbling yourself,
while you see it as actually picking up a cross and getting nailed to it. So I'd like you to do me a favor. I'd like you to find me a quote from
the bible, however uncredible it might be, of Christ saying anything about starting a new religion. When you have done so, I'll continue this
You're section on the "Basics" was quite revealing. You showed your ability to copy/paste. Nice job.
If you read my original argument, I believe I stated specifically that I neither believe nor do I not believe in John Titor. That is where the
discrepency lies. You are caught up on what you want to hear, and what is actually being said.
As far as you believing that I only want to be agreed with...
Have I asked anyone to agree with me? Have I asked for your approval? Infact, all of my posts have been arguments about the original thread... with
the exception of dissecting a few of your own retorts.