reply to post by Tony4211
See, something like that, I can fully understand and appreciate, as well as respect.
The one thing we find...when concerning a belief in God...is not evidence. If you were to systematically ask every single person who had a faith in
God....why they believed in a God...you would not hear answers of scientific testable evidence. What you would hear about are emotions, and
experiences. Thats what it comes down to. Faith...does not come down to "proofs" the core of anyone's story who fully, truly, faithfully,
unshakably believes in God, will not give you a story of "proof" they will give you a story of what they experienced that made God undeniable to
them.
Yes, you will have the ones of "my parents are" Or, " I grew up as" these are not those I am talking about...these are not unshakable believers of
God. I'm talking about the ones on here, who are the ones who state "I don't care how, or why, I just believe that God is there" ...this is
because..it has been made undeniable to them...not down to proof, or scientific fact, but because they cannot discredit, nor deny what they saw or
felt with their own minds and bodies.
This is why the debate of "God, no God" will never go away...because as long as those experiences that make him undeniable happen, there will always
be a undeniable belief in him. Those who either do not experience it, or who find other answers for that experience will continue to deny that a God
could even exist. It has always appeared to me that it takes far more of an open mind to believe in the supernatural.
It doesn't come down to a book. Which has always been silly argument to me anyway.."Oh, its in a book, so its made up." There are countless upon
countless of ancient texts, that speak of Gods and supernatural happenings..yet, many of them are used for historical contexts on those particular
people. I mean, after all....if someone experienced God...why would they not write it down? Not to say that everything in the bible would be true, nor
that it means that God is real simply because the book is there, but to claim he is not because ancient people wrote it down seems odd to me.
In any case...this will always be the debate..doesn't matter how many times someone asks the question...there will always be those who believe and
those who don't and both sides have every right to argue or discuss their points. I don't believe we can claim either side to be "silly" or
"ignorant" one cannot disclaim what science shows them, the other cannot disclaim what they saw and heard with their own hearts, minds, eyes and
ears. How can either side be "silly" or "ignorant"?