Homework promoting polygamy & Islam garb sent home with students

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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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No material should be taken at face value without an educator there to discuss its content. The material was meant to discuss dress code and it did so. Its only our current Islamic hysteria that colors it as a problem. Would it of been better if it had been a Catholic nun of one order or another? Or perhaps Mormons and their underwear? (is it called modesty or something?). The point is that after reading the material there should be intellgent conversation about the pros and cons of dress code, not some hysterical drama over our children being converted to Islam.
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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Your tin foil hat seems to be working well!


Considering the fact that Anthony Weiner was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, I did some digging. This is what I've come up with:


Georgia state rep. Mike Jacobs told reporters that he couldn't think of any instances of Sharia being forced on the good people of his state—but just to be sure, he introduced the "American Laws for Georgia Courts Act" earlier this week to block foreign or religious laws from being cited in state courts. A total of 16 states have passed or introduced anti-Sharia legislation since last February.

motherjones.com...

And then there's this:


In 1996, she was one of the original 130 founders of Campaign for America’s Future, a project of the US’ largest Marxist organization Democratic Socialists of America and the far left Institute for Policy Studies.

Today, Nan Orrock is very tight with Metro Atlanta Democratic Socialists of America, the most active of D.S.A.’s southern locals.

gulagbound.com...



The Muslim Interscholastic Tournament (MIST) was founded in 2001 by a freshman at the University of Houston. It consists of annual Regional Tournaments for high school students in the United States and Canada that take place in Atlanta, Boston, Detroit, Chicago, DC, Philadelphia, New York City, Houston, Southern California, and Toronto.

en.wikipedia.org...'_Association

Here's an interesting ATS thread with information about the Muslim Brotherhood and the government officials who are members and/or support it or are against it.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

There may be more than meets the eye here.

As an aside, I'd just like to say that the KKK covered themselves from head to toe, but you wouldn't use their garb as a means of explaining why students should abide by the dress code.

Regardless, let's keep the religion out of the schools and stick to the facts. Students are in school to learn and prepare them for the Work Force (love that term
). If you want them to be dressing for success, you must state this clearly instead of putting it in abstract and convolluted religious/cultural themes.
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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I've been reading other reports about this and I seriously worry about the state of affairs of the US school system, I also expect the same inappropriate material to be moved into the British school system just as slyly.

If my daughter came home with that sort of assignment I'd hit the roof, I have no problems with my daughter learning of other cultures but I call a halt when young children are being groomed to be part of these cultures. My little girl (11) is from of a mixed marriage with my in-laws being Muslim but in no way do they pressure us to have her in a Muslim school nor try and affect her choice of faith if she ever chooses one so there's no way I'm going to let her school help influence her mind at such a young age.

Promoting polygamy to kids??

Most kids these days can't even manage a single relationship, make that many adults as well.

As for the covering of the body, is this about modesty or the complete coverage of the body ala Radical Wahhabi style following, if its the latter then people really should understand what that entails, this is the total domination of women, the woman obeys, point blank..

Not such a wonderful culture to spread..



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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If parents could be allowed to send their child to the school of their choice then this would not be a problem. Christians could send their children to a Christian school, and Muslims could send their children to a Muslim school if they so chose.

People say: Oh, but you can send your children to such schools. Well no, we are forced to pay for very specific schooling through property taxes at the moment. And as a result of those taxes, we cannot afford to send our children to any school we wish.

The whole idea of middle class welfare is ridiculous to me given public schooling has resulted in nothing other than people becoming vastly more stupid than they were before it started. And we can't forget it did start up for the explicit purpose of more or less teaching Americans to be corporate slaves, and it worked perfectly in that regard. In specific, I'm talking about the literacy rate going down after the middle class welfare program we call public schooling started, and yet still literacy in the US continues to go down!

But any ways, if we're gong to have such middle class welfare, then lets allow the parents to spend the money on any school of their choice and in the meantime allow the freedom of speech and freedom of religion.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:27 AM
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Have you seen the way some of these high school kids dress these days? They could do with a little modesty, to be honest.

More importantly though....what's so wrong with polygamy?



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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When it's OK for a woman to have five husbands, I'll support polygamy.

I could have one man fixing the roof, one man repairing my car, one man in the kitchen, one man cutting my grass, and one in the bedroom all at the same time. Why is this wrong? I'd get so much more done!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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I am so sorry this young girl has such an idiot for a father. The assignment obviously was to teach about multi-culturalism by exposing young people to what other people believe. That the girl who wrote the letter praised her Islamic rules the assignment certainly did not go as far as to portray burqas and polygamy in a good light, only that it is how a great many people believe. I believe the it was a lesson in comparison.

When in history class they teach that most of the founding fathers owned slaves are they teaching slavery in a positive light. How about the massacre of Native American tribes to make the way west easier. Does that teach that genocide is a good thing? Just because a subject is discussed does not make the exercise biased one way or the other. Its called education.

But hey, its Georgia. Sorry, I know all Georgians aren't' cretins, but hey, you guys keep letting the mouth breathers get all the press.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by pngxp
bring up Christian beliefs in class and you get suspended and called a horrible monster.

but send 13 year olds home with Islam propaganda and youre apparently a champion of freedom and the most well cultured person ever and everybody should be more tolerant of everything else. as long as its not Christianity of course. or anything about loving America. then youre a stupid intolerant bigot who hates all mexicans or some random garbage.


shame on whomever is responsible for this assignment being handed out to children.

and how is a school uniform even remotely related to islam dress codes? thats completely different things.


No one has to bring up Christian beliefs they are forced on Americans from the time they are born. The father is blowing this way out of proportion. The girl is taking a middle eastern studies course and this was just a letter describing the differences between the women who follow Islam and western women. I question if this letter was actually written by a Muslim woman though because at the end of the letter she said God instead of Allah.


Hi, I have to question one point "describing the differences between the women who follow Islam and western women"..... Is that not part of the issue here? The Islamic faith is exactly that - a faith, as are all others. It doesn't denote your nationality anymore than to be a Roman Catholic you need to be from Vatican City or to be Jewish you must be Israeli. I find it strange how many times on ATS people refer to a faith (and I'm sure these things cycle round but the flavour at the moment is Islamic faith) and say it's followers are in some way foreign. Some may be, others typically won't be - it's part of society.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Before I started homeschooling my son, he came home with a handout that kept saying that Clinton was the president. Bush had been president for a near full term.

LOL

A young man I know makes straight As in the public schools. My son is the same age. My son is always having to explain the words he uses to the child, who honestly acts like he knows everything because he is so smart. As he is getting older, I have seen a lot of change in him - he's starting to act like he knows EVERYTHING and yet he questions nothing.
Learning a lot of facts and doing a lot of written work ensures that you can read, write, and do basic math. There's no guarantee that it will enable a student to be able to think well.

I took my son to a 'magician class.' He was 13, and he had a bottle of water. He was the only homeschooled student. There was nothing posted that the kids could not have water with them - the magician said "You can't have water in class." My son said "Why not?" The magician said "You'll have to give that to your mother." My son said "I will, but you never did tell me why not."

Then the magician did a trick and he messed up. He tried to change the topic. He talked about the magician's code and wanted all the kids to SWEAR that they would not tell how the tricks worked. They were very simple tricks- this wasn't David Copperfield. So the kids that SWORE were to raise their hands.

My son did not. The guy (who knew his name because of the water...) told him to raise his hand. TOLD HIM to. My son said no, and he was like "Why not?" and my son said "Because I'd be lying - I might want to show my best friend, and besides, all these tricks, including the one you just flubbed are already on the Internet. I shouldn't have to swear to keep a secret that isn't secret in the first place."

And he said if my son would not swear he had to leave, so my son got up and walked out. He didn't care - he likes magic but at 13 decided that guy was not someone he cared to listen to.

I was embarrassed. I was like "Oh my son was disrupting the class, he can't even take a class." Then I came home and really thought about it - and really, I was embarrassed at me. I was so well trained that I questioned HIS questioning. I was the one who was wrong.

Anyway, 2-3 years later, I see in the paper that the guy got arrested for child molestation.

I'm saying all this because homeschooling has been so eye opening for me. Public schools really are indoctrinating our kids in many ways - and I suspect the main one is to program them to accept the authority of the state. The state is the highest authority -they know, we don't. They are smart, we aren't. They deserve respect, we don't. We should swear our alliance to them, they should not have to earn it. Raise your hand if you agree. You don't agree? Raise your hand. You won't? GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
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posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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It actually sounds like the assignment is giving the student several ideas which they have to consider as part of their homework. It's the father who seems to have made the inference that it's meant to convert people to Islam.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Could you point out the part that made you view it in this light?

From what I see, the father stated that he would have liked other religions to have been mentioned as well, but they weren't.


"It represents Islam in a positive manner. That doesn't offend me as much as the fact that it represents no other religions," Medlin said. "To me, this material is being used the way it's used is like tearing a page out of text book and saying here's the whole story."



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Why are you complaining about the way kids dress? Why not complain about the way adults dress? THEY are the ones who set the standard for the younger generations.

I'm actually somewhat surprised to hear of such blatant propoganda in a Georgia school. I graduated (public) high school last year, having been schooled in Ga my entire school career, and never ran across something like that.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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America is a shining beacon of light (or is supposed to be) because of our freedom of choice


So then, that would make many western and other nations, "shining beacons of light", but unlike in america it seems, they would simply laugh such a remark off as pitiful stuff, mere enthusiasm.

I sure know that's the way it is around these parts.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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reply to post by BurningSpearess
 


Don't you know...separation between church and state
only applies to christian faiths'



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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The pledge of allegiance is ridiculous?
These are also fighting words!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Oh noes, students learning about another culture besides their own.




posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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Not at all surprised that the state is "forcing" this
muslim propaganda onto our children.We do have
a muslim/christian? president in the white house!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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That's it really. This erroneous idea that Islam mentioned in isolation taints an argument, making it propaganda. That Islam automatically needs to be 'balanced' with information about other faiths, lest our vulnerable children are brainwashed. Would the same be said of a document using an example from the Bible? I doubt it. Not in the USA at least. Certainly it seems, not in Georgia.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Headband7
 

beliefs aren't the issue here, laws are and they are being subverted with and by this propaganda.
how would you like it if some introduction paperwork barges into your education system and insists all PE (physical education) classes will now include moonshine sampling?
and, your homework assignment was to go home and brew some?


Is that really a good comparison? Taken at face value this doesn't imply the student must marry various other people as part of the classwork, it seems to be part of a cultural awareness study - hmmm, Actually, taken at face value it implies nothing of the sort.

Anyway, speaking of America and polygamy, you may want to consider -

"In the US, the Libertarian Party supports complete decriminalization of polygamy as part of a general belief that the government should not regulate marriages."

en.wikipedia.org...

I'm trying to think of that politician who is constanly referred to as a libertarian although he's riding a republican ticket - no, the name has slipped my mind.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by Afterthought
 

Not at all surprised that the state is "forcing" this
muslim propaganda onto our children.We do have
a muslim/christian? president in the white house!

Obviously that's not quelling some people's fears of non-Christian brown people. Maybe some schooling in diversity will help...at least the next generation.

I might have guessed, though, that this would end up being Obama's fault somehow.





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