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Where Are All The ELENIN Conspiracy Theorists Now?

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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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The law is an ass.


You don't seem to want to answer the question, do you believe the official account of 9/11? I see this is a dilemma for you, as you are paid to come on here and debunk the important conspiracies.. But at the same time anyone with half a brain knows 9/11 was an inside job... So you can't say no I don't believe the official version as that puts you in an awkward position, but also you can't say the official version is true because that leaves you with no credibility.




posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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These are the sources of the information which I did not reference before. Forgive me.

inexplicata.blogspot.com...

The joke that is Fox

latino.foxnews.com...

and here..
www.agi.it...



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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as you are paid to come on here and debunk the important conspiracies

You think is important?
That is humorous.

Please drop the off topic commentary when it is clearly shown that your claims are false. If you want to discuss other issues there are other forums for that purpose.

The fact is that you posted the following:

UARS was a cover. ON the same day a meteor hit Argentina killing one person and injuring 9 others.

You were wrong.

You misrepresented the reentry of MIR.

Why are you playing the role of a disinformation plant?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Providing multiple sources for the same article only shows that the text has been copied to other places.

So what?

Where is the evidence that there was an impact from an object that would have probably been a half ton in size or larger? Where did it go? Where is the crater?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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The 9/11 question is very relevant and you know it. Please answer?

Why would you spend so much time focused on one subject.. 2012 if it is all a load of nonsense?

The crater? The Tunguska event had no crater, if in Argentina it was a fragment of a comet it would fit that there would be no crater.

You also used a news article to attempt to prove the hoax point.. But read again

" the shockwave was huge and the gas deposits didn't explode." Right now, their "scientific police" is still going through the evidence. [Clarin] "
gizmodo.com...

Repeat : GAS DEPOSITS DIDN'T EXPLODE!



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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Here is an article which may help you to understand the lack of a crater.

news.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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I retract all comments I made and admit Nibiru is a hoax. Just a load of nonsense.. There are thousands of independent astronomers out there and for not one expert to go on record.. pretty unlikely.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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you need to look at the live cameras today in Alaska and tell what is in front of the sun there are live and there is a spot in front of the sun in 8 different locations akweathercams.faa.gov...



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Oh no, it's a black hole. We are doomed. It's going to swallow us all.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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He did quote it and attribute it to the blog, just not in proper format. He should've copy and pasted it all into "external text" and then provided a link to the material below that.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 11:59 PM
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The crater? The Tunguska event had no crater, if in Argentina it was a fragment of a comet it would fit that there would be no crater.

Another attempt at a misrepresentation. Tunguska involved a large air explosion. The incident in Argentina did not.


You also used a news article to attempt to prove the hoax point.. But read again

The photo was a hoax. The news article provided no information. It suggests a meteorite struck the place. Where is it? No crater and no impactor?


Repeat : GAS DEPOSITS DIDN'T EXPLODE!

This is an initial article with many problems in it such as not providing any cause and much speculation such as that statement. The few things we do know is that there is zero evidence for a strike by anything falling out of the sky other than a photo known to have been a hoax and some anecdotal evidence whcih is not corroborated by the physical scene.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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Where is the huge air explosion in Argentina.

You get an F for continued misrepresentation.
edit on 6-10-2011 by stereologist because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 12:02 AM
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There are several prominent sunspots at this time. There is nothing in front of the Sun as in new celestial objects in the solar system.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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Stereologist,

This was all a little experiment.. I tried commenting a number of subjects over the last year to test opposition. The only subject where you get any expert response is on the 2012 issue. I have been fishing.. and out you came.

Your expertise in everything from jet propulsion to ancient history.. You have time, resources and intelligence.

If what I believe to be true is so, a site like this would have a number of people working on it on to steer the debates.. I suggest to everyone they search your posts in ATS and what you will find is someone working full-time to debunk 2012. This is more revealing than any information I have been going on about.
I agree on the Argentina meteor, no way to know what it is and in all probability a gas explosion is more likely.

Any academics I know would not entertain the 2012 theories for a second, which makes me wonder what you are doing here? You are a sort of intellectual bully on here.. and most of the time people get fed up with your persistence.

Notice any pattern in his/her threads?

Take this one..
"Would NASA reveal a disaster or hide a disaster?" Stereologist

You reel people into the debate.. Then this is very revealing

"I believe that the word would get out despite efforts to possibly suppress the information. I'll explain shortly."

The bit at the end.. I'll explain shortly, this a pre-planned structured argument. Then follows a bizzare monologue ! Who are you debating this with ? www.abovetopsecret.com...

Do you do the day shift on 2012? Can anyone find who does the night shift ?

Now I have been saving this to see how you deal with it.

This from an article in Scientific American (credible source)

"The new alert comes days after a NASA astrobiology site reported that an invisible brown dwarf star nicknamed Nemesis may be circling the sun and causing mass extinctions of life on Earth every 26 million years. There are hopes that if Nemesis exists, it will be detected by NASA's heat-sensitive Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer satellite, WISE, which is currently scanning the sky for brown dwarfs."

The full article is worth a read. www.scientificamerican.com...

In the debate (with yourself) whether NASA would tell us or not.. you reasoned there would be no point if it was an extinction level event.. So if they did find it and it is dangerous.. Would we be anythe W.I.S.Er now?



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:45 AM
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Its sad to see that even pop science magazines conflated Tyche and Nemesis into one object. Nemesis is an abandoned hypothesis by the same people who created the Tyche hypothesis. Nemesis was abandoned when it was found that there was no periodicity to mass extinctions. This has been known since at least the mid-90s and Whitmire and Matese have been pushing the Tyche hypothesis since at least '99. Tyche is used to explain the orbits of long-period comets, but it poses no risk to Earth.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:12 AM
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What time did your shift start?

Here we go again "sad to see" it makes no sense to use that kind of language in a debate, sad to see credible sources being used to support an argument?

Abandoned hypothesis? Or discovered unannounced reality.. for the reasons stereologist argued in his monologue.

In future then we no longer have to label 2012 as a hoax, we can give it a more suitable name which will encourage scientific debate.. We shall call it the "abandoned hypothesis"

Since NASA's WISE at this time is the only way we can prove or disprove this hypothesis at present and our friend already argued that if they had discovered something dangerous we would not be told.. lets instead call it the "unproven hypothesis"



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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I created a new thread to discuss the existence of disinfo agents.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Actually 2012 is a hoax. It involved making up stuff that was not true and then passing this off to the gullible to earn income.
edit on 6-10-2011 by stereologist because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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2012 is a hoax. The only reason 2012 ever became important was because of the Maya. However, the Maya made no specific claims about that date. Other than the start of a new baktun it doesn't appear to have had any significance at all to the Maya.

The Maya an 2012



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Lets continue the dis-info agents elsewhere then..

Do you agree we can now call 2012 the 'unproven hypothesis' from now on? Following your own logic it is now irresponsible to call 2012 a mere hoax.

Whether or not the original source for the hypothesis was Mayan prophecies is irrelevant, facts do back up that we have had many mass extinctions that remain unexplained.

Yes you are right.. So many names TYCHE, NEMESIS, WORMWOOD, ELENIN, PLANET X, YU55, C2010 X1, Marduk, Nemesis, Hercolubus, the Gods Planet, the Planet of the Empire, the Planet of the Cross or the Red Planet. Total about 32 names all very useful for helping the confusion.

I have a 3rd nipple which I use to communicate to Gandhi..

this is a hoax.

Gandhi is of course dead.

Those amateur astronomers would have detected it by now? Yes they have.

www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/2010X1/pictures.html
gustavomuler.fotografiaastronomica.com/www/images/cometas/C1010X1/
severastro.narod.ru/sla/com/2001-2010/2010/c2010x1/c2010x1.htm
www.amication.de/Bernhards_Comet_Project/indexd.htm

xa.yimg.com... 9+at+13+48+39.98++-08+27+44.3.jpg

Now answer this, can you think of one logical reason why Google sky et al would block out a chunk of the sky? and move that blocked area as though it were disguising a moving object.

In the context that we have agreed a dangerous event would be hidden, then how would they hide it?

1) Block out Google sky et al.
2) Create confusion around the event. Swapping names, I believe they will have a different name for different stages of the operation.
3) Release information to overtake Google search rankings on key terms such as 'Two suns'
4) Use the fall of satellites to desensitize the public to objects falling from the sky. Furthermore to create doom fatique.
5) Massage public anxiety by having a conference on NEO's shortly before the danger period. Note: Watch NASA previous conferences from the last 10 years and you will see that the behaviour of the panel is odd!


6)



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 11:34 AM
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Where're they? Making the next conspiracy!!!

Jupiter is expanding and will soon become a new born star.

Watch for it...
edit on 6-10-2011 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)



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