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Iraqi people robbed by the Bush regime

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posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 11:42 AM
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foreign assets of Iraq have been frozen by presidential order. This money is now used to finance american and america-friendly reconstruction & propaganda in Iraq.

Is that a robbery or what ?

There are plenty of links .. a simple google search revealed : www.annistonstar.com...

[Edited on 6-4-2003 by Mokuhadzushi]

[Edited on 6-4-2003 by Mokuhadzushi]




posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 01:32 PM
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The Bush Regime? Get a life you moron. President Bush does not have a regime. Its an administration. He has every right to be in Iraq. And contrary to what you may believe, the US is not there in vain. We found chemicals that would have been used in terror attacks or against his own people. So you want more innocent lives lost at the hand of Saddams REGIME? Yes, Saddam is the one with the regime, not Bush.



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 01:40 PM
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My intervention on xmb.abovetopsecret.com...

could make it clear why regime is a correct term in this setting ...



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Tetsuo-51
The Bush Regime? Get a life you moron. President Bush does not have a regime. Its an administration. He has every right to be in Iraq. And contrary to what you may believe, the US is not there in vain. We found chemicals that would have been used in terror attacks or against his own people. So you want more innocent lives lost at the hand of Saddams REGIME? Yes, Saddam is the one with the regime, not Bush.


Actually, every country has a regime. American media just uses that word to make it sound ugly.

Definition
Regime - A system of management of government; an administration.

So, before you go calling someone a moron, do some research.



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 07:21 PM
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Moku, all I saw on the link that you gave me was you being proven wrong. Again.



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 07:24 PM
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As for you, Lie Detector

a : mode of rule or management b : a form of government

[Edited on 7-4-2003 by Tetsuo-51]



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 07:32 PM
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Right now I think the only thing the Iraqi peole are being robbed of is sleep? Imagine having bombs being droped at 3:00, 4:00 and 5:00 a.m..... "Shock and Awe" what the hell do they think this is a video game?!?!?



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 07:34 PM
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foreign assets of Iraq have been frozen by presidential order. This money is now used to finance american and america-friendly reconstruction & propaganda in Iraq. Posted by Moku

Yes, that was done. I dont see it being robbery though. First of all, this money wasnt the Iraqi peoples, it belonged to the government of Iraq, and by extension, Saddam.

Second of all, yes, it will be used to rebuild Iraq. Yes, also, some US companies will make a profit in the process. Again, I dont see this as being fundamentally wrong. Iraq started the ball rolling, so the US is entitled to some form of compensation from the former government, and this is it. Why should the American tax payer pay to clean up after the war, when the government we were fighting has funds available to do so?

Third, by freezing these accounts, it ensures that this money does not find its way into other hands, notably the French or Germans. Again, I dont see this as fundamentally wrong, as these countries were the prime motivators for the actions that Iraq took that precipitated the war.

I believe freezing these assets was a very appropriate action.



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 08:28 PM
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I agree with you that freezing an enemy's assets somehow follows the logic of war. But making decision in the name of the Iraqi people while effectively enriching yourself and your friends with their money probably isnt exactly what the Iraqis dream of...

What do you mean by "The US is entitled a compensation " ? You're joking, right ?



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by Tetsuo-51
As for you, Lie Detector

a : mode of rule or management b : a form of government

[Edited on 7-4-2003 by Tetsuo-51]


I pulled the exact definition out of the dictionary. Maybe you have a dictionary that rules over all.



Anyway, the point I was trying to make is not whether different dictionary's have slightly different definitions, but rather correcting you when you said Bush didn't have a regime. When by definition on both cases, it is in fact a regime.





[Edited on 7-4-2003 by Lie Detector]



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 08:42 PM
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Main Entry: administration
Pronunciation: &d-"mi-n&-'strA-sh&n, (")ad-
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : performance of executive duties : MANAGEMENT
2 : the act or process of administering
3 : the execution of public affairs as distinguished from policy-making
4 a : a body of persons who administer b : often capitalized : a group constituting the political executive in a presidential government c : a governmental agency or board
5 : the term of office of an administrative officer or body

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Main Entry: regime
Variant(s): also r.gime /rA-'zhEm, ri- also ri-'jEm/
Function: noun
Etymology: French rgime, from Latin regimin-, regimen
Date: 1776
1 a : REGIMEN 1 b : a regular pattern of occurrence or action (as of seasonal rainfall) c : the characteristic behavior or orderly procedure of a natural phenomenon or process
2 a : mode of rule or management b : a form of government c : a government in power d : a period of rule

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posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 10:54 PM
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I agree with you that freezing an enemy's assets somehow follows the logic of war. But making decision in the name of the Iraqi people while effectively enriching yourself and your friends with their money probably isnt exactly what the Iraqis dream of... Posted by Moku

I think you missed my point: this money does not currently belong to, or has it ever belonged to the Iraqi people. It did however belong to the Iraqi government, and more specifically, to Saddam. Yes, these billions of dollars are not going to find thier way into Iraqi pockets, but it will be used to rebuild and improve Iraq. Yes, it will also make a profit for a few american companies, and that shouldnt come as a surprise. But again, this isnt what the war was fought for.

As for the compensation, yes I am serious.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 12:55 AM
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Lie detector you just proved yourself wrong.

Look at the continuation of the definition. "A social pattern", or whatever its exact words were.

Bush by far does not set the Social Standards, in fact, the US government never really has.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by 5POF
Lie detector you just proved yourself wrong.

Look at the continuation of the definition. "A social pattern", or whatever its exact words were.

Bush by far does not set the Social Standards, in fact, the US government never really has.


What are you talking about, there are different definitions for the same word. And the different definitions might be totally different. I was referring to the first definition. Maybe you should read the dictionary more, and you would see there are definitions for words that might not match up even with the same word.

In fact
Regime - A system of management of government; an administration.

Everything I said was true by definition, every country has a regime. To sit here and even try and debate something as petty as this is sad. You are sad.

I don't know who you are, but I already don't like you. You are one of those nonsense debaters.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 02:02 AM
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Yes but you are failing to apply CONTEXT.

That's the same as that propoganda crap saying we broke the UN charter, by using "penatentiary".

Penatentiary means both "detainment cell" and "torture room".

Now if you call something one prison a "Penetentiary" then in the english language you can NOT call a torture chamber, the same word when being used together.

So either it is "Bush's regiem" applying to the administration.

Or it is "Saddam's regiem" applying to the Social control his "regiem" does.

You are pulling hairs by trying to say "Bush's administration is also a regiem by definition so you are wrong blah blah".

No they aren't wrong.

Because they are following with context, and not mixing the definitions.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by 5POF
Yes but you are failing to apply CONTEXT.

That's the same as that propoganda crap saying we broke the UN charter, by using "penatentiary".

Penatentiary means both "detainment cell" and "torture room".

Now if you call something one prison a "Penetentiary" then in the english language you can NOT call a torture chamber, the same word when being used together.

So either it is "Bush's regiem" applying to the administration.

Or it is "Saddam's regiem" applying to the Social control his "regiem" does.

You are pulling hairs by trying to say "Bush's administration is also a regiem by definition so you are wrong blah blah".

No they aren't wrong.

Because they are following with context, and not mixing the definitions.


You're clueless, you are someone who can't make sense but can only spin facts to your liking.

The hell you seek will be visiting you in full color very soon my son.

As I said the first time, every country has a regime. I'm sorry you are incapable of accepting that fact. But everything I said is true daemon.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 02:44 AM
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You're the one twisting facts by saying "Well Bush is a Regime too".

Get real damn.

What is the point of posting that, you know EXACTLY what they mean.

Just because you are clueless to what they mean by regime and why they use it the way they do, doesn't mean the rest of us are.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by 5POF
You're the one twisting facts by saying "Well Bush is a Regime too".

Get real damn.

What is the point of posting that, you know EXACTLY what they mean.

Just because you are clueless to what they mean by regime and why they use it the way they do, doesn't mean the rest of us are.


Well, I always thought there should never be more than one definition for each word. I am though not the tard that created the english language.

But, according to the dictionary. I am right and will remain right forever. Every country has a regime.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 03:06 AM
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No, I do know you're right in defintion.

But I think you're detracting from the point when adding the 1st definition, it should just remain in context and be understood that the "Saddam regime" is different from the "Bush administration"


Afterall the creator of this post intended to mean regime as a bad thing.

So actually applying your definition works to debunk both of their sides


But being pro-bush I chose to take the side that would make it so that there is no "neutral" point of view lol



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by 5POF
No, I do know you're right in defintion.

But I think you're detracting from the point when adding the 1st definition, it should just remain in context and be understood that the "Saddam regime" is different from the "Bush administration"


Afterall the creator of this post intended to mean regime as a bad thing.

So actually applying your definition works to debunk both of their sides


But being pro-bush I chose to take the side that would make it so that there is no "neutral" point of view lol


This has to be the stupidest thing I have ever encountered. I made a simple statement and a correct statement. It has nothing to do with pro this pro that, although I know America's regime is evil and so do you.

Any and all regimes are by nature evil do to the fact humans can't handle power and ruin everything through their sick demented greedy visions.

All countries have regimes, it doesn't matter what they meant. By definition it's a regime. Don't you get it. Everything I said was true.

By definition, whether it was definition a. or b. both hold water in comparison to each other. We also have a social system or pattern. I mean, come on man. You lost. Give it up. I win.



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