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The Jonestown Massacre

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posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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very informative post S+F. alot of this information i did not know. i had realized there was some forced poisoning of infants and some adults i didnt realize how large the forcing was.




posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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listen to:

An audio recording made on November 18, 1978, at the Peoples Temple compound in Jonestown, Guyana immediately preceding and during the mass suicide or murder of over 900 members of the cult.

www.archive.org...

(besides the insanity, hear anything else weird?)



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 12:18 AM
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Thanks for the interesting info, OP!!! It will take me a bit more time to grasp everything that was posted, but from what it seems, it very well could be an interesting conspiracy. I have to tread lightly though, as I was raised in a destructive cult myself (No longer involved).

I really like Jesse Ventura, he has a way of making people think!!!



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 12:26 AM
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Thanks for posting this take and perspective on this event. Many Children and adults went missing during this program who were never accounted for. Those responsible have never been brought to public justice.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 12:57 AM
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Too many time we hear CIA and suicide in the same sentence.
Its sad that there's so much secrecy, i hate to be lied to.

The cigarette smoking man was right... "Trust no one."

Shakur

Ventura



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 01:17 AM
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I agree that it was mk-ultra taken abroad & have said so many times.
nothing else enen makes sense to me.
edit on 26-9-2011 by hadriana because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 01:25 AM
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i've never really heard of this...good job on the thread...

it really makes me scared of the sinister truth behind all of these things that reek of the shadow government we aren't told about...



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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Thanks for posting that. I'd not heard a clip that long of him talking.
There's ghosting in the tape and it is remarkably clear for what- an 8 track or a cassette?
When I listen to it, I think :"wow, there's a man who has built a construct that every ONE of these people now live in- even the lady that dissents- and they are all just participating in it to it's most likely conclusion."

IE like he's built a maze and they are all rats running through it to the one exit.

One of the things that never fails to floor me is how many people say that he is a religious nut- that he was a fundamental Christian that led his followers into death- and they will ARGUE that and will hear nothing else.

But the construct was one of a people holding egalitarian, communist, even GREEN ideas- with the US being persecutory and predatory- wanting to keep them from their peace and harmony.

The first thing was they were removed from their environment and made to hate their country of origin, and indeed, to EMBRACE an enemy country- which was Russia at the time. Remember that- Russia was public enemy #1 in the decade this happened.

THe contruct was using a religious sort of framework but it was NOT religious- We must purify ourselves (Not for God, but for RUSSIA)...we want RUSSIA to find us acceptabe....we will learn the language and maybe they will accept us.

I think if you keep all this in the framework of MK-Ultra, what they were looking at is how enemies might be converted into loyal agents...and possibly how any captured US agent might be converted- to help them spot double agents. How to TURN people, if you will.

It is very interesting that - well it is all interesting- how he USED the children. We saw in Abu Ghirab the USA using people's children against them- hurting people's children- raping/torture of young teens to get to the older target in custody. Jonestown told us that if you can make people even THINK that their children are going to be tortured, you will do about anything to stop it- including killing them before it can happen.

Now,,,to fast forward a bit- we have this agency called DFCS. While it is supposed to make sure children stay safe, what it really does is terrify a lot of people that their children will be taken from them and put with people that might hurt or rape them. Oh boy.

Jonestown is intersting, but I would LOVE to get my hands on the write up- the actual research- and don't TELL me that wasn't research going on down there. I just will not believe it. To me, it has MK-ULTRA written all over it.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 02:34 AM
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I still recall this incident so well as if it just happened yesterday.....and we already guessed most of those people were murdered and did not commit suicide.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 03:41 AM
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In your original post you said the people died from drinking cyanide laced kool-aid. I don't see how you can type all of those paragraphs without doing you proper homework. This is a pet peeve of mine. Everybody says "Don't drink the kool-aid."

The people in JonesTown mixed their cyanide with Tang.

If you can miss that one simple fact it makes me wonder what else you've missed



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 03:45 AM
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all i want to know is what the hell happened to that dog in the 2nd photo

3rd line
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posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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can anyone explain this story?



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 03:55 AM
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At the time of the tragedy, the Temple had three boats in the water off Brazil. The boats disappeared shortly afterwards.



edit on 26/9/2011 by EmeraldGreen because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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I read an article a few years ago that said there was a CIA camp close to Jonestown and they were planning some type of operation. When Ryan showed up they got nervous and that was the real reason for the slaughter and they shut down Jonestown as well as their camp. Sorry don't have a link to the story right now.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 04:01 AM
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I'll tell you something really weird.....absolutely true......

this happened almost 20 years ago, I was probably 13-15 years old. I was Living in Elma Washington, a small town. Me and some of my friend were in line at the local grocery store, and you know how they have magazines and such in the check out line? Well there was an issue of the Inquirer or something like that, and on the cover there was a picture of a man and the headline read: Jim Jones alive and in the USA!!!

Well none of us knew who Jim Jones was, but one of my friends pointed out that the man next to us in line, WAS THE GUY ON THE COVER OF THAT MAG! It still ranks as one of the most hair raising incidents of my life. He wasn't quiet about pointing it out either, all of us were looking at the cover and looking back at the man. I don't know if the guy on the cover was Jim Jones, but the guy on the cover was most certainly the man standing in line right next to us!!! The guy himself noticed that we had recognized him, he just gave us a creepy smile. It was bizarre. I still don't know what to make of it. This really did happen.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 05:54 AM
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33 survivors huh?

shady.


this whole story is sickening. I met a missionary from guyana.. he till this day is terrified of that whole country, though he goes back often to spread beliefs



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 06:20 AM
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When you say 'forcing'...you mean brutally murdering of course.

Forcing, sounds a lot better than slaughter doesn't it!

Let's call it was it was.

Human mind control. Experiments in drug induced extreme psychological manipulation.

The whole thing is rotten.

The CIA was up to it's neck in the whole filth of it all, and they are still at it too...more so now the sold war (cold war) has ceased.

The war on terror is one of their creations, it reeks of a CIA control psych op, and of course doesn't take up as much time or resources as the cold war did, (so more can be diverted to BOPS) yet the resultant Fascist procedures and the stripping away of rights and freedoms, controls the populations of the world far more effectively than the old 'common enemy, hail the flag patriotism' form of population mind control techniques ever did.

Back then it was fear for one's nation and whole way of life, now it's simply fear for one's life.

Much easier now the majority of the masses have been conditioned to be selfish, stupid and inward looking.

'___', and other strong hallucinogens were all used by CIA programmes involved mind control and manipulation research and human experiments during the 60's and 70's when it was at the height of it's wild heyday, during the 'anything goes' initial and mid phases.

I highly suspect the people who were part of the Jonestown massacre, at least those that took part in the murder and slaughter of innocents present, were the more 'successful' mind control subjects, or more receptive to the drug and psychological induced programming / suggestion among the group...those that fled into the jungle, were obviously among the least receptive...and the most fortunate.

Religions, contrived cults and ethnic or socio-economic organisations were all used as focus points for these control and manipulation experiments, especially during the 70's, but of course they are still prime targets today.

The idea being that the members' minds are already halfway conditioned to being polarised or radicalised, so the people involved at the grass roots level are patently susceptible to coercion and mind control as demonstrated by their membership within such organisations, especially those in the religious or esoteric cults.

Since then of course, the techniques had (not have) become much more subtle and refined.

Back when this massacre occurred, it was a brute force and a sledgehammer approach from the CIA while learning the ropes, now it's augmented through orchestrated and deliberate mass food and water contamination, using Fluoride and additives / GM animals and GM crops in food and water supplies, and cocktails of who knows what spewing out regularly from covert aircraft in the form of Chemtrails (hotly denied by the lackey's on here and elsewhere). This alone though, is not enough for control and manipulation en masse of entire populations, it only made us receptive to it. A 'Jimmy Jones' or persuasion factor was also required to actually programme the people.

They run or manipulate the Western media, almost entirely. Together with the public being generally more 'pliable and compliant' through the assaults on our bodies and minds with Fluoride, which is well known for it's effects of inducing docile, hypnotic and suggestible states of mind in people (research NAZI use on POWs), the controlled media and established religious cults have a relatively simple task of making suggestions and leading people to a desired point of view or patterns of thought, through carefully structured psychological manipulations...initially subtle, even just simply nuances such as a smirk or a raised eyebrow was enough of a foundation for 'patterning', but it has been increasing in it's glaring overtness over the last couple of decades and seems to be accelerating.

Either the programming of the populace hasn't moved as fast as had been initially hoped by the inceptor's, and they're cutting corners in subtlety and returning to the brute force / sledgehammer methods, or more worryingly in my view, they are confident that the methods employed thus far are working better than expected and feel able to drop the subtlety almost entirely without caring about or expecting an overwhelmingly negative public reaction.

Which of course, means that in their opinion we are either mailable and stupid or conditioned enough not to notice or put up any resistance to whatever they want to do to us.

In my opinion, of course.

Most of what i said is either common knowledge, or highly controversial and oft debated and denied. So, as far as the parts of this post which are in the record and common knowledge, if you want evidence or proof go and research and you'll find it..as for the controversial parts, ('Chemtrails') you'll have to make your own mind up about that (ironic huh?)

Good thread OP.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 06:20 AM
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You're thinking the Masons aren't you?

The 33 thing had crossed my mind too.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 06:33 AM
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It wasn't in the South was it? There was a preacher I met here - had a very small, independant type church - I never went to it - I think his name was Leroy - he was a dead ringer for Jim Jones. It seems he moved around in the smaller churches and eventually disappeared.

jonestown.sdsu.edu... is something written by Jim JOnes. The Letter Killeth

It's interesting to me that he was raised by KKK folks. He seems to be practicing racial equality...almost - if you listen to some of his tapes - preferring the black race - ok, but in the end he killed a lot.
So no doubt somewhere there really was a lot of deep rooted hate and contempt - would have to be, to do what he did, whether it was straight up story as told, or if it were MK-Ultra coverup.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 07:20 AM
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Jonestown doc on youtube:











Having trouble finding part 6. There is a video but the audio is gone for some reason : (






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