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Charges against one were dismissed. The others stood trial, accused of interrupting Israeli a]mbassador Michael Oren's February 8, 2010 University of California-Irvine speech, criticizing him and Israeli injustice.
Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas filed misdemeanor criminal charges, accusing them of disturbing a public meeting and engaging in a conspiracy to do so.
Jewish leaders applauded the verdict. According to Shalom Elcott, Jewish Federation & Family Services president:
The student disruption "crossed the moral, social and intellectual line of civility and tolerance. While we accept the right and requirement of a public institution to provide an unfettered forum for diverse points of view, we do not, nor will be ever, support 'hate speech.' "
In other words, free, honest, accurate comments are hateful when Muslims state them. Jews and Christians can say what they please.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations, Los Angeles (CAIR/LA) headlined, "Muslim Groups Appalled by 'Irvine 11' Guilty Verdict, Declare Travesty of Justice," saying:
"Leaders of four prominent Muslim organizations" expressed outrage over an appalling verdict, "convicting 10 of the 'Irvine 11' students on (unjust) misdemeanor counts...."
"You can heckle the President. You can heckle high ranking government officials, but it you heckle an Israeli diplomat you will be prosecuted."
UCI School of Law Dean Erwin Chermerinsky, in a lecture given months before Oren’s visit, addressed the very topic of First Amendment protections. In his lecture, Chermerinsky was careful to note that at the university, free speech was protected in areas considered public forums, while within enclosed spaces, university policies mandate a specific time, place and manner for which speech is allowed. Oren’s speech was given in at UCI’s Student Center, which falls into the latter.
Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
Ive said this before and I will say it again. Freedom of speech does NOT equal Freedom of slander. The fact is, they broke the school policy and also broke local law by not protesting in the approved protest area, which was NOT in the auditorium during the speech!
Another thing Im sick pf hearing is how these punks got severly punished. Get over yourself! They ended up with 5 years probation and community service and the 5 years of probation gets reduced to 1 year if they finish the community service before January 2012. Boy, thats harsh for breaking the law Also, this isn't the first time this group of students have done this type of crap and last time they got let off the hook completely.edit on 25-9-2011 by DerbyCityLights because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Shamatt
reply to post by charles1952
Since when do you get a criminal conviction for breaking university rules?
If they broke the law of the land then which law?
Disrupting a public speaker? Then there should be thousands of citizens arrested and prosecuted - and I don't need to post a video to prove that - you and I have both seen enough video of people disrupting meetings. They don't all end up with criminal convictions.
Did you mention the prosecutor was a pro Israeli jew?
403. Every person who, without authority of law, willfully disturbs or breaks up any assembly or meeting that is not unlawful in its character, other than an assembly or meeting referred to in Section 302 of the Penal Code or Section 18340 of the Elections Code, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
Originally posted by Shamatt
Speaking the truth is not slander.
And what's this all about? Only permitted to protest in certain designated areas - when did you accept that as an American citizen? You don't feel this is just police state rules - what about YOUR freedoms, my friend? When you find you can only say certain things in certain places without running the risk of picking up a criminal conviction.
You find the rules all too convenient and 'fair' at the moment. Wait untill it is you and yours who are saying the wrong thing in the wrong place. 1984 slightly?
Hundreds were arbitrarily arrested in the first months after the attacks. One man, a Palestinian legal permanent resident, was stopped for driving four miles over the speed limit in North Carolina and spent four months in jail.
On November 5, 2001, the Justice Department announced 1,182 had been arrested, then stopped providing a tally.