Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
ARGH! I do not think bigotry has a place in our government either. You twisted my words around. And yes, blacks can definitely be bigots. I live in
Georgia...I see examples of this every day.
Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the
members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance (Miriam Webster)
My stance is that he is NOT a bigot. I do not think he treats Muslims with "hatred and intolerance". He wants to thoroughly vet any Muslims before
selecting them to be in his cabinet.
QUESTION: Do you deny that there are a lot of Muslims all over the world that HATE America and want to see as many of us dead as possible?
Because if there ARE, then it makes sense to be very careful when selecting members of your cabinet who might harbor secret feelings based on their
religious teachings. Sounds more like COMMON SENSE than bigotry.
Your post makes me think that we are at a point when we can't have any sort of discussion about a group without someone calling "bigot."
I see a LOT more bigotry against CHRISTIANS than I do against Muslims (here on ATS...just look at this thread for examples).
Why is is okay to be bigoted against Christians, but the moment someone speaks out, saying that we want to make sure any Muslims we appoint to office
don't want to implement Sharia law, that person is the ultimate bigot? Personally, I am weary of seeing the amount of Christian-bashing that goes
on. Christians are downright ridiculed on this board, and in the media. THAT is true bigotry. We are mocked for our BELIEFS.
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I hope what we've been told is wrong, and that there are not millions of Muslims all around the world who want to kill Americans. Still, I prefer to
err on the side of caution.
I didn't twist your words around, you just weren't clear enough. I live in GA, too, but you sure make it sound like you exactly what he thinks and
what goes on his mind with comments like "He grew up in segregated GA, He's not a bigot."
And going by your "Webster" definition of bigot, don't you think not allowing a Muslim in your government is pretty intolerant????
From desktop OED:
1.1 The fact or habit of not tolerating or enduring (something); inability, or unwillingness, to tolerate or endure some particular thing; incapacity
2.2 spec. Absence of tolerance for difference of opinion or practice, esp. in religious matters; denial of the right to differ; narrow-minded or
bigoted opposition to dissent.
Do i think there are Muslims that hate us? I do not deny that some Muslims hate us. We must understand WHY they hate us, which is another discussion
in itself, BUT there are also many other people that hate us. However, to look with suspicion upon EVERY Muslim simply BECAUSE that person is a
Muslim is one of the biggest problems, even if one wishes to "err on the side of caution." To simply treat someone differently because of one's
religious beliefs is not right in America, IMO.
As far as "bigotry" against Christians of which you speak, i'm not sure what you mean, unless you mean they get ridiculed because of the silly
things some of them believe that totally contract the face of reality and science...Regardless of one's beliefs, regardless if one is Muslim,
Christian, etc...Keep it to yourself!!! All of you!! And do NOT let your beliefs influence the decisions that affect everyone else, especially those
that think or believe differently! Period. And again to the Christian bigotry of which you speak: I don't care if you are Christian or Muslim, etc,
just keep it outta government!
Bigotry pops up when there is intolerance simply because of one's religion, and is rampant all over the place.
"Any complaints Christians (such as Cain) have about Muslims aren't because of their religious beliefs."
Uh, yeah, they are.
Some feel a particular way about us as a country because of our policies. But the people who may want to a position in government is probably not
likely an immigrant from Yemen who grew up radically indoctrinated to hate the US and now wants to get in government and destroy America, it's the
guy down the road, your neighbor, who'd been here X number of years living the American dream, as was intended. Are there some who maintain the
facade but are secretly radical? Yep, just like there are the same with Christians and any other radical group or person existing, but do we single
them out and treat them the same? No, because it's not a sign-post like Islam.
I actually don't think . . . out as many Americans as possible.
You make it seem like we have flocks of radical Muslims trying to weasel their way into government! Or is that just what they've been telling you?
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