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Originally posted by ntech
reply to post by yourignoranceisbliss
You are not acknowledging the one major problem Islam has with Israel. The mere existence of a nation of Israel is a major affront to Islam. Their religion states that all the religions that came before were corrupt and invalidated by Islam.
To have a operable nation of Israel threatens the very validity of Islam.
And the final nail in that coffin would be is if Israel rebuilt their Jewish temple on the temple mount.
The simple implications of that would be Mohammad lied and people died. And the religion itself is suspect. What else was lied about? Are the Muslim warriors of the past in paradise or the fire?
And that is the real reason Islam cannot leave Israel alone.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Israel is quick to point the finger at other countries for not following international law, but they seem to think they are excluded from doing so.
Voted down? Why would it get voted down? We sure go after NK and Iran, when Israel has arguably caused just as much if not more terror worldwide. I'm not saying NK or Iran should have the bomb. I'm only saying that Israel should not have it unless the are willing to submit to international regulations such as other countries. Am I the only one who sees the irony in all of this?
But even Israel did not oppose that document, abstaining instead of voting against it after failing to have a specific paragraph that effectively singled out the Jewish state without naming it struck from the document.
So instead of opposing or arguing their point, they abstain and dont even acknowledge the request. Not very surprising considering their track record with transparency. And they wonder why people are sick of their bullying while the play the role of the regional victim.
In comments echoed by other Arab states before and after the vote, Syrian nuclear chief Ibrahim Othman said Israel’s refusal to join the nonproliferation treaty and throw open its nuclear facilities to IAEA perusal “is a threat ... to the security and stability of the Middle Eastern states.”
Israel a threat to stability in the Middle East? No way
Okay end sarcasm.
Anyone else getting sick of the hypocrites running Israel? I sure am.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by DarthMuerte
They should sign it. That is the whole point. If you are unable to get the point, there is no point in trying to reason with you.
Do you not see it as a double standard that they criticize Iran for their nuclear ambitions which follow international law yet they have up to 300 nuclear war heads themselves? They are talking about striking Iran because of this. They are hypocrites, plain and simple.edit on 24-9-2011 by Corruption Exposed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by DarthMuerte
Would you apply the same logic if Iran withdrew from the treaty and pursued nuclear weapons?
"They withdrew from the treaty, why should they follow it?"
Originally posted by Flint2011
When the world became aware of Israel's Nuclear Weapons Programs and massive developments the western nations remained quiet to it. Particularly the USA and France who were most assuredly aware of it and maybe even supported it. Think about it. If you are a powerful western nation and the middle east is full of resources as well as poses concerns on various matters to you, is it not worth having an ally that is in the middle east that is nuclear capable and poses a strong nuclear deterrent as well as strategic advantage? So many people wonder why western nations Like the USA cuddle up to Israel like they do and what I mentioned prior is just one many reasons. I is just another corner stone of our National security infrastructure. Iran and North Korea are run my completely hell bent and insane regimes on the other hand and cannot be trusted. This is also why we worrk so hard to stay friendly with Pakistan and provide so much aid there as well as India. We don't want those regimes to turn there nukes on us or our allies so we must make allies out of them in every way possible.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
The difference between Israel and Iran, is that Israel isn't rulled by some nutbag who is trying to bring the 12th Imam via mass genocide of jews.
Good job bringing in religion into a matter that is NOT religious.
That ....and the difference between Iran and Israel is this : Iran is not subjecting its jewish population to the atrocities and the humiliation that muslims living in Israel are going through.
edit on 25-9-2011 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by patternfinder
Originally posted by Phoenix
reply to post by backinblack
backinblack, honestly if you were an Israeli citizen - which you and I are obviously not, how would you feel with the knowledge discussed on this thread.
What would you feel?
i can tell you how i would feel. i would feel the same way i do now about the atrocities that the U.S. is guilty of everday, and that is, i am appalled by them and am ashamed to be a citizen of such a cruel and inhumane country.....
Originally posted by Pervius
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
The difference between Israel and Iran, is that Israel isn't rulled by some nutbag who is trying to bring the 12th Imam via mass genocide of jews.
This has been played long enough. Did you know Germans are from the Tribe of Gad, the exiled Israelis who are now called "One of the lost tribes". Both the Germans and the Israel's are all sons of Jacob.
It's DNA Testable. They've used their family spout to royally screw over the Tribe of Gad for quite a few decades. Ole Jacob boned his slave made and had baby Gad. He eventually had a big clan and lived right there in Israel until they were chased away by the "full blooded" Jewish people. They fled to Germany.
The Israeli-Germany spout is a family issue going back to Jacob. Don't believe me? Get their DNA and test it. Both are the sons of Jacob.
Originally posted by Jobeycool
It is the exact identical crap that happened during world war 1 and 2.Blame jews on everything and some kind crazy gullible feel good nonsense that is not part of reailty at all.
]Oh please do me a favor, it is in no way the context you are posing it to be. I lived in israel, I am aware of what goes on there. How about you stop reading dumb headlines and fly down to the west bank and then you will see how so called "miserable" they are. While your there dont forget to pick up a pair of armani shoes from Nablus
Originally posted by nenothtu
Why is it "reasonable" to coerce someone, whether an individual or a nation, to sign agreements they don't agree with?
I think everyone should eat raw deer brains each Wednesday. Should I hold a gun to your head and force you to agree with that?
If you don't think so, perhaps you should rethink what it means to be a "hypocrite".