Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Thats like living in southern california *gang-land* and refusing affiliation. Dumb move my friend! Sooner or later you will get shot or severly beat up and mobbed and tortured.
That right there is all that needs to be said about union affiliation. It is the best, most apt, analogy I have ever seen.
At least you realize that it's gang life when you enter the fray. I tip my hat to you.
more words of wisdom:
Yes I don't have impaired vision. I call a spade a spade. Gangs, unions, corporations and the government ALL extort. Would you rather be on the losing side or the winning side? I don't have what it takes to start a corporation, I fear gang violence and I am not well connected enough to be part of the government..........that leaves me two other choices 1)be a lone warrior with no chance of getting ahead or 2)be part of a union and get some respect.
See its a manageable decision when you put all the pieces together.
I used the above example to show you why unions are important. No one man is a mountain. If the president cannot accomplish what he wants/needs with supposedly the highest position then what makes naive people think they can bargain for themselves?
I always have, and can't say it particularly troublesome. It's a simple matter not to settle for what they offer over what you want. I may not be a "mountain", nor am I an "island", but I know what I want, I know what I need, and I know what I won't just settle for. I don't need a gang behind me to tell me that, or help me walk away from a bad offer. I especially don't need them to "extort" on my behalf, or out of my paycheck.
I am glad you have a job that is highely in demand and you can name your price. Many others do not have that luxury.
Big and small government means little when companies/banks pay for the elections and control the candidates. Is it really not obvious for you? Sure a "small government" means decisions get made faster and it costs less to run but we have a reached a point in human history were its become irrellevant.
"Big" and "small" in relation to government makes a great deal of difference. "Small" has much less of an octopus-like reach than the "big" advocated by collectivists. Cost analysis is not the only factor, nor is it really even the most important to me. Nor do I care how fast decisions are made - I care more about the fact that decisions are being made where none are needed, cutting deeply into that "personal responsibility" thing. A bigger government has to do more to perpetuate itself, and the more it does, the less freedom we have.
Was it Jefferson who said "a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take everything you have"? No matter who said it, the truth of that statement should be obvious to the most casual observer.
There are things more important than money and possessions. The economics of big government don't factor in to my thought process much.
The problem I have with discussing "big government" verus "small government" is the context for the arguement is fraudulent. I say its cheaper and decisions get made faster while people like you spout libertarian/anarchy nonsense.
How can we begin to have a serious discussion when some people think the government is some big, bad boogeyman? I say its impossible. The real issue is cost effectiveness and efficiency as you will find out when the american government DEFAULTS on its obligations.
I don't have hissy fits and that statement about trailer park "white trash" and mexicans had nothing
to do with what I asked you. You even quoted your own statement...now you're denying you ever said it...whatever. 
