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Originally posted by camaro68ss
Most of you heard the legend of Atlantics, The island of advanced people that lived on an island in the Atlantic ocean that later was lost to a “Great Flood”. Come to find out there was also a little know Legend of the People of Lemuria, an advanced people that lived on a large Island in the Pacific Ocean during the same time period of Atlantics.
The Legend of Lemuria spans from many cultures.
The Polynesians have storys of a “Mother Island (Mother land/ MU)” of mankind lost in the seas. The Samoans called the place Bolutu. An island bearing fruits and trees of plenty, once picked the tree would immediately replace the fruit. On Bolutu, men could walk through trees, houses, any physical object without any resistance. The Maoris of New Zealand talk of arriving long ago from a sinking island called “Hawaiki”.
The Legend goes that lemuria sank and its inhabitants fled to Asia, India, Mesopotamia, Egypt and even the Americans, Story has it that the lemurias that fled to America established a underground city under a Mountain. This Mountain has later become known as Mt Shasta and is located in California.
What is interesting is nearly all cultures around the world, even isolated cultures, talk of a paradise of no labor. They talk of later losing their innocence, having to work and feel pain and later of a great flood.
This will help explain the old stories of innocent times of no pain, hunger, or death that we hear from all around the world.
Originally posted by Byrd
Speaking as someone who studies mythology -- no, that's not accurate. Most cultures (before Christianity hits them) do NOT have a "paradise" beginning and a "loss of innocence" and only the ones that live in areas where they get floods sometimes have a flood mythology.
Originally posted by Byrd
reply to post by SLAYER69
The problem with that, Slayer, is that during the time of the lowered water levels (ice age) there is archaeological evidence of people all over the world. Water levels rose slowly (a foot per year) and any high tech society would have moved away and kept their tech.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
I'm a believer in a possible lost or forgotten history of mankind. The area that intrigues me the most is the now submerged [By the last of the last ice melt off] shown below in the following animation I made for one of my threads on a related topic.
Now even though I believe there is a possible lost or forgotten history I doubt they ever reached our level of Technological prowess. The location in question could have had early civilizations or fairly sophisticated early cultures IMO. All lost as the oceans rose and reclaimed the land.
Is it so hard to believe that during the period in question humans lived then as they do now along the coastlines? Is it also hard to believe that maybe humans had culture or early civilization in small pockets?
Whether the oceans rose at a slow rate of a foot a year or sometimes rose quite rapidly by a few feet is still [From what I've read] hotly debated so therefore the verdict for me is still out.
I feel that the period in question is long enough to accommodate both scenarios occurring depending of such things as Ice dams [Which are known to have existed] collapsing releasing huge amounts of fresh water into the oceans [Which is known to have happened] so again, whether a foot a year or sometimes in periodic large flooding is really irrelevant because people cannot live under water.
Submerged sites of ancient communities could be hidden in the seas around the Western Isles, according to experts. Dr Jonathan Benjamin and Dr Andrew Bicket believe the islands' long and sheltered lochs have protected 9,000-year-old Mesolithic relics. Rising sea levels may have covered up to 6.2 miles (10km) of land on the west coast of the Outer Hebrides. The archaeologists are to give a presentation in Comhairle nan Eilean Siar's council chambers on Monday.
A British researcher has published a startling new theory that the remains of untold ancient settlements from a 100,000-year stretch of human history were submerged by the rapidly rising waters of the Persian Gulf around 6,000 BC — the result, in all likelihood, of a catastrophic, planetwide flood triggered in Canada. There's a consensus among scientists that the collapse of a kilometres-high glacial dam at the end of the last ice age caused a massive outflow of meltwater into the Arctic or North Atlantic Ocean near Hudson Bay, generating a sharp rise in sea levels around the world and profoundly altering the Earth's climate. Some scientists have even speculated that ancient myths about great floods — culminating in the biblical story of Noah's Ark — were inspired by the worldwide deluge.
LiveScience Staff Writer posted: 29 June 2006 02:00 pm ET
Near the end of the last Ice Age 8,000 years ago, an ice dam on North America's east coast broke, releasing a torrent of fresh water seven times more voluminous than all the Great Lakes combined. It all rushed into the Atlantic Ocean over the course of only a few months.
At around the same time, ocean circulation worldwide slowed to a crawl, plunging Europe into a second ice age that lasted centuries.
Scientists have long suspected the two events were linked, and now they have the evidence from sediment core samples to prove it.
Emerging archeological evidence points to early human habitation 120,000 years ago in a Persian "Gulf Oasis" now underwater, suggests one archeologist.
In the upcoming Current Anthropology journal study, Jeffrey Rose of the United Kingdom's University of Birmingham, points to stone tools from 40 archeological sites throughout the Middle East to suggest that modern humans left Africa earlier than many model suggest (typically around 60,000 years ago), and populated Arabian coastal areas now underwater.
Originally posted by Hanslune
Agreed, there are local floods but world wide the rise of sea levels would have been gradual.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by Hanslune
Agreed, there are local floods but world wide the rise of sea levels would have been gradual.
First off, I've never disagreed with that.
Second I've never believed the Earth's entire landmass was ever covered completely by water. I'm of the belief that those various very larger regional flooding events could be the source for many scattered "myths" about a "world wide" flood. [emphasis on the word "Myths" ]
I'm curious why are so many academics so against the idea of submerged locations which may have had cultures or early civilizations? Seems to me that this sort of discussion would be of great interest to them.
I've never asked you. Do even think that's a possibility?
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Again with the "Assumptions"
Where in any of that did I mention "High-Tech"? Also, what makes you assume [Again] from what I've written that I believe there were no other people all over the world?
I'm a believer in a possible lost or forgotten history of mankind. ...Now even though I believe there is a possible lost or forgotten history I doubt they ever reached our level of Technological prowess. The location in question could have had early civilizations or fairly sophisticated early cultures IMO. All lost as the oceans rose and reclaimed the land.
Is it so hard to believe that during the period in question humans lived then as they do now along the coastlines? Is it also hard to believe that maybe humans had culture or early civilization in small pockets?
Whether the oceans rose at a slow rate of a foot a year or sometimes rose quite rapidly by a few feet is still [From what I've read] hotly debated so therefore the verdict for me is still out.
I feel that the period in question is long enough to accommodate both scenarios occurring depending of such things as Ice dams [Which are known to have existed] collapsing releasing huge amounts of fresh water into the oceans [Which is known to have happened] so again, whether a foot a year or sometimes in periodic large flooding is really irrelevant because people cannot live under water.edit on 24-9-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)