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Topic started on 23-9-2011 @ 04:17 PM by e11888

Fox News Pulls Poll Showing Ron Paul Debate Victory, Claims Mitt Romney Won


www.infowars.com
The establishment media’s relentless campaign to denigrate Congressman Ron Paul’s presidential campaign has manifested itself once again, after a poll showing Paul had won last night’s Orlando debate was pulled by Fox News who later published an article claiming Mitt Romney had instead claimed the victory.
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reply posted on 23-9-2011 @ 04:17 PM by e11888
This is nothing new. Actually, the last time Fox News hosted a debate they removed their poll within hours (www.abovetopsecret.com...). Atleast this time they actually waited until sun up so that they could praise Romney on their morning show. But the question is, why would you even have an online poll hosted on your website if you only plan to delete it within a few hours without posting the results? Doesnt seem to make much sense.

The problem is the mainstream media, not only Fox, is so against Ron Paul and his anti war policy, that they will go to unseen lengths to keep him hidden from the public. Let us not forget about Jon Stewart's wonderful rant on how the media refuses to give him equal air time with the, at the time, top three 'front runners'.



Of course once Paul actually slid into the top three the 'top tier' became the top two.

It doesnt matter if you're for Ron Paul or even agree with him at all. The fact is the media is actively attempting to bury his name and you have to ask yourself why. This could possibly sum it up:



The point is, you only get one vote per IP address on these online polls so why exactly are they creating polls if they never plan to post the results? Beyond that, if Romney (or Perry for that matter) actually won the poll, do you honestly believe that the talking heads on Fox News wouldnt be praising it instead of deleting it without mention? I wonder.

www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 23-9-2011 @ 04:27 PM by gwydionblack
reply to post by Carseller4


Yes I'm sure all the Straw Polls he won as well are simply shams and chain emails.


reply posted on 23-9-2011 @ 04:38 PM by SpaDe_
Originally posted by schuyler
Originally posted by SpaDe_
There is another poll on the Fox News main page that still shows Ron Paul way ahead. I am sick of how every single one of these news agencies just lies about the results when it clearly shows who was voted the winner. To others that complain about Ron Paul supporters coming out and voting for him, what is stopping the other contenders from having their supporters do the same? Maybe they just really don't have any, or nearly as many?


Just because Ron Paul supporters act like donkeys and rush to spam a poll does not mean the supporters of other candidates have to act like donkeys, too. That's what we have going on here. Everyone seems to know this EXCEPT Ron Paul supporters, who seem to believe if they spam a poll, then that means Ron Paul is REALLY ahead. He isn't, of course. Any poll that takes a realistic sample shows Paul from 8-12%. If you want a realistic view of where Ron Paul stands, click here. If you want to remain delusional, just keep believing Ron Paul is the front runner, then complain bitterly when he loses--again.


So showing support for someone is being a jackass? Good to know! So public polls don't show true figures? Then tell me then what polls should we believe? The ones you say are reputable? Look when the polls that you people keep pointing to start taking their results from a demographic that is not skewed I will start looking at them. Until then I will not trust the 1000 "random" people that they choose to poll.

BTW Real skewed politics is hardly a reputable source. They pick and choose what polls to include in their numbers. I could do the same and show you hands down that Palin is winning by a majority of 10 points or more.
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reply posted on 23-9-2011 @ 04:58 PM by Habit4ming
Originally posted by schuyler
Originally posted by SpaDe_
There is another poll on the Fox News main page that still shows Ron Paul way ahead. I am sick of how every single one of these news agencies just lies about the results when it clearly shows who was voted the winner. To others that complain about Ron Paul supporters coming out and voting for him, what is stopping the other contenders from having their supporters do the same? Maybe they just really don't have any, or nearly as many?


Just because Ron Paul supporters act like donkeys and rush to spam a poll does not mean the supporters of other candidates have to act like donkeys, too. That's what we have going on here. Everyone seems to know this EXCEPT Ron Paul supporters, who seem to believe if they spam a poll, then that means Ron Paul is REALLY ahead. He isn't, of course. Any poll that takes a realistic sample shows Paul from 8-12%. If you want a realistic view of where Ron Paul stands, click here. If you want to remain delusional, just keep believing Ron Paul is the front runner, then complain bitterly when he loses--again.


If one uses the results from the 5 Straw Polls (not internet), Ron Paul is the frontrunner:

If we take all 5 Straw Polls and combine the totals, we can view a glimpse of the national picture. Awarding a first place finish 5 points through a fifth place finish of 1 point, we get the cumulative totals below from all five official Straw Polls thus far:

Ron Paul – 22 ranking points = 4.4 average finish

Rick Perry – 15 ranking points = 3.0 avg finish

Mitt Romney – 11 ranking points = 2.2 avg finish

Herman Cain – 7 ranking points = 1.4 avg finish

Michele Bachmann – 7 ranking points = 1.4 avg finish

Again, the above ranking includes the results of all 5 state Straw Polls officially held and recognized by each respective state party (IA, NH, GA, WI, CA).
www.whiteoutpress.com...


reply posted on 23-9-2011 @ 05:14 PM by e11888
Originally posted by Carseller4
Originally posted by Habit4ming

If one uses the results from the 5 Straw Polls (not internet), Ron Paul is the frontrunner:

If we take all 5 Straw Polls and combine the totals, we can view a glimpse of the national picture. Awarding a first place finish 5 points through a fifth place finish of 1 point, we get the cumulative totals below from all five official Straw Polls thus far:

Ron Paul – 22 ranking points = 4.4 average finish

Rick Perry – 15 ranking points = 3.0 avg finish

Mitt Romney – 11 ranking points = 2.2 avg finish

Herman Cain – 7 ranking points = 1.4 avg finish

Michele Bachmann – 7 ranking points = 1.4 avg finish

Again, the above ranking includes the results of all 5 state Straw Polls officially held and recognized by each respective state party (IA, NH, GA, WI, CA).
www.whiteoutpress.com...


Glad you brought up another Ron Paul strong suit!

Problem is the straw polls are being ambushed by Paul supporters just like the online polls. If straw polls were so important why was the Texas straw poll cancelled? Seems like Paul puts heavy emphasis on online and straw polls but doesn't have a plan when it comes to votes the actually count, the actual state primaries.


You cant be serious. Straw polls dont matter because people vote for Ron Paul? Seriously, what kind of logic is this? Next elections wont matter because people vote for Ron Paul? Im sorry, but whatever credibility you had you just went out the window. If Ron Paul supporters turn out with these numbers to vote for a straw poll, whats stopping them from voting for him in the primaries? Your entire arguement is just gone.

The Texas straw poll was more than likely cancelled so that Ron Paul didnt embarrass Rick Perry in his own state.


reply posted on 23-9-2011 @ 05:17 PM by Wookiep
reply to post by schuyler


Even if we go based on your bible, it STILL has Ron Paul in third place! His numbers have been continuing to rise even on that site. Have you checked the latest polls there?? I don't get you lot that continue to post that poll as if it's some kind of proof that Paul's numbers are bad. If anything it's proving his numbers are steadily increasing.

He's got a big following that continues to grow. Get over it!
edit on 23-9-2011 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 23-9-2011 @ 06:01 PM by greenWeenie
reply to post by Carseller4


This thread is not about the credibility of online polls. It's not about the insane supporters of Ron Paul. Re-read the title pal. Ron Paul won another foxnews poll, while foxnews credited mitt romney as the winner. It is yet another example of mainstream media bias.

Moderators, I've had posts removed for much less.

p.s. it was nice to hear from Gary Johnson last night! I had never heard of him before; when they let him talk for the first time, I was like, "great, another bought-off fool taking away more of Ron Paul's time!" But he made a lotta sense. He kind of talked like Mr. Rogers too. I can't imagine a person who talks with such eloquence giving the ok to invade another middle-eastern desert country.
edit on 23-9-2011 by greenWeenie because: (no reason given)

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