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Loud groans and power outage on X Factor tv show. A stunt?

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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:10 AM
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Hey all - I thought you guys would find this interesting. As we all know there have been reports of loud rumbles and groans without a known source. Well on April 20th in Seattle, Washington (the actual fiilm date) on the tv show X-Factor the noises were caught on tape and also accompanied by a momentary lapse in the lighting. There is some great timing in this clip as the contestant auditioning starts off by saying she can see ghosts and communicate with them..check it out (if you'd like to get straight to the point skip to 2:00 in the video)



I cant say for sure if these noises werent simply a tie in on the producers part but people seemed pretty freaked out. Someone from production came to tell the hosts they didnt know what the sounds were. Hollywood is known for pulling this stuff but with the reports all around the world of simliar eerie sounds it seems to add more creedence it being a genuine event. There are literally thousands of video clips from that audition from contestents on Youtube, if you wanna browse and see if a sound is picked up that may help. Heres footage from Tropican Field with an eerily similar sound...



Who knows? Its pretty weird. Any ideas?
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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:17 AM
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hoax
shes so hot tho



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:17 AM
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You have to be kidding right? I am really starting to wonder about the whole dumbing down using the water supply thing with posts like this. I am sorry to be so harsh. But it is the truth.

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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:25 AM
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Lets keep the subject off me and on topic. I havent formulated any kind of opinion on what this could be and am open to any ideas. There are many reports of weird noise reported the same day this was filmed.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:42 AM
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Staged. You could see the dramatic build up from the moment the girl made her announcement.
One thing Simon is good at is playing to the crowd.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:44 AM
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You really just made me watch sheeple entertainment ?

Curse on you for believing this obviously staged "ghost theme".



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:45 AM
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Thank you. Star for agreeing with me. LOL



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:49 AM
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The women at the end was weird too (and good).



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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mmmmmmmmmm, I prefer a more sedate rendition of Summer Time. Gives it that lazy, carefree summer attitude. Personal choice of course. Not dissing her singing abilities though.
edit on 23/9/2011 by TheLoneArcher because: Same as ever

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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 05:14 AM
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FAIL....this video was edited and pieced together.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 05:34 AM
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The x factor is one of the most obviously manipulative programs on the TV. It is quite interesting to watch to see how they manipulate the audience with contestants sob stories, emotive music and a sense of anything can happen on live TV, even though it is all planned out. As far as the ghosts go, it was obviously a joke as there are no such thing as ghosts. Despite what the contestant and Paula Abdul say on the matter.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 06:06 AM
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Well all I can come up with is the date was 4/20 !

Maybe a ghostly bong hit exhale and head rush ?
edit on 23-9-2011 by lunchmanstan because: forgot to mention is was in Seattle too
...sorry just to damn funny to resist



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Looks like a typical episode of the X Factor to me.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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First, I want to say that I am some what disappointed with the replies you received so far. Genuine scientific questions of importance have been asked yet most respondents can only make silly comments about X-Factor. Please allow me to get the scientific analysis you were seeking back on track.

I believe it is completely anomalous and unexpected that disparate sound systems should produce noises with many common characteristics and filling similar frequency ranges. If feedback oscillations are to blame (everyone has heard the screech from a microphone held too close to the speaker), then I would have expected the noise to mostly contain high frequency components instead of the low frequencies recorded. I am also wondering why specific components that are always part of professional sound systems (such as the automatic oscillation compensator, 3 or 5 second audio delays, and dynamic range compressors) would not have automatically eliminated the condition causing the noise. Let me walk everyone through my thinking here.

Each component (i.e. microphone, amplifier, equalizer, etc.) within the sound system has a well defined operating frequency range. Typically, one component has a much narrower frequency bandwidth than all others and defines the response for the overall system. At the same time bandwidth is constrained within a component, the sound signal phase is shifted . We have all heard that awful screeching sound when a system oscillates. Sound systems oscillate at a specific frequency when the accumulated phase shift throughout the entire system, from microphone to speaker, at that frequency reaches 180 degrees. Why does a system usually screech at a high frequency? Because the majority of phase shift is added near the frequency limit of the component having the narrowest bandwidth; perhaps 15 kHz. What is so very strange about all of these noises captured is that the noise frequency is much lower a typical screech frequency. This suggests that the noise is not due to a feedback oscillation but the pickup of a rouge electrical signal.

The conjecture that these public address system noises are due to electrical pickup instead of feedback oscillation would also explain why audio time delays (almost certainly in use at the ball park) did not prevent the noise from occurring.

So what could it be? One way these noises could occur, IMO, is if huge currents flow through low level audio cable shields. Since no shielding is perfect, a small portion of the shield current noise gets added to the primary audio signal. How could these shield current form? Some unknown atmospheric or geophysical process causes a significant potential difference between each end of a long audio cable. Another possibility is direct interference with the radio signals linking wireless microphone technology. The true answer is illusive, but in all cases we are looking for an unexpected electro-magnetic phenomena.

To summarize, simple explanations for the unusual sounds do not stand up to close scrutiny. Considering that this appears to be a recent phenomena we should keep our eyes and ears open for more data points that could help unravel this mystery.

Best regards,
Z



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by DrZrD
First, I want to say that I am some what disappointed with the replies you received so far. Genuine scientific questions of importance have been asked yet most respondents can only make silly comments about X-Factor. Please allow me to get the scientific analysis you were seeking back on track.


Thank you for your kind words. I've even been getting a lot of pointless, personal attacks my last few threads. Its becoming a bit disheartening, but wont stop me. I always check sources, ask what other members think, etc.. I do everything I can to determine what is the truth.


I believe it is completely anomalous and unexpected that disparate sound systems should produce noises with many common characteristics and filling similar frequency ranges. If feedback oscillations are to blame (everyone has heard the screech from a microphone held too close to the speaker), then I would have expected the noise to mostly contain high frequency components instead of the low frequencies recorded.


Exactly. You said it, not much more i could an on...But i do have a question. Have you been


I am also wondering why specific components that are always part of professional sound systems (such as the automatic oscillation compensator, 3 or 5 second audio delays, and dynamic range compressors) would not have automatically eliminated the condition causing the noise. Let me walk everyone through my thinking here.

Each component (i.e. microphone, amplifier, equalizer, etc.) within the sound system has a well defined operating frequency range. Typically, one component has a much narrower frequency bandwidth than all others and defines the response for the overall system. At the same time bandwidth is constrained within a component, the sound signal phase is shifted . We have all heard that awful screeching sound when a system oscillates. Sound systems oscillate at a specific frequency when the accumulated phase shift throughout the entire system, from microphone to speaker, at that frequency reaches 180 degrees. Why does a system usually screech at a high frequency? Because the majority of phase shift is added near the frequency limit of the component having the narrowest bandwidth; perhaps 15 kHz. What is so very strange about all of these noises captured is that the noise frequency is much lower a typical screech frequency. This suggests that the noise is not due to a feedback oscillation but the pickup of a rouge electrical signal.


I'll have to look into this a bit more to fully understand all the details. thanks for taking the tine out to do this.


The conjecture that these public address system noises are due to electrical pickup instead of feedback oscillation would also explain why audio time delays (almost certainly in use at the ball park) did not prevent the noise from occurring.


hmm, the paragraph above went right over my head. im super tired. I'll have a better response in the morning.


So what could it be? One way these noises could occur, IMO, is if huge currents flow through low level audio cable shields. Since no shielding is perfect, a small portion of the shield current noise gets added to the primary audio signal. How could these shield current form? Some unknown atmospheric or geophysical process causes a significant potential difference between each end of a long audio cable. Another possibility is direct interference with the radio signals linking wireless microphone technology. The true answer is illusive, but in all cases we are looking for an unexpected electro-magnetic phenomena.

To summarize, simple explanations for the unusual sounds do not stand up to close scrutiny. Considering that this appears to be a recent phenomena we should keep our eyes and ears open for more data points that could help unravel this mystery.

Best regards,
Z


Remember the poster DARKN1GHT's predictions? It does coincide with whats happening today. Im doing the best reaearcch I can I've been researching all day about this and havent found too much. I just have a weird feeling about all of this. im hoping for the best....



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by no special characters
You really just made me watch sheeple entertainment ?

Curse on you for believing this obviously staged "ghost theme".


Did you read my OP? I never said I 'believe' anything. Did you watch the video the whole way thru? From the looks of it, the noises continued for a period of time.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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All I know is that I want to get to know her more.


Interesting video.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by TheLoneArcher
Staged. You could see the dramatic build up from the moment the girl made her announcement.
One thing Simon is good at is playing to the crowd.


That very well could be. But what was interesting is the noises continued after the 'ghost girl' finished auditioning. Maybe i should have mentioned that in my OP because I think many people only watched the first 2:30 minutes but the noises continued 'till the end of the clip. If there werent reports world wide of the odd rumbles and eerie moans coming from the sky or Earth, I never would have posted this video from X-Factor....




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