Originally posted by karl 12
Hi, in the video below Dr Richard Haines describes a very interesting UFO incident investigated by Project Bluebook's Dr J Allen Hynek where three pilots witness a huge, vertical flying triangle off the coast of Florida - he doesn't mention the year but if anyone knows anymore info please post.
Date: 27 October 1967
Time: 0300 local (Eastern U.S.time zone)
Location: VOR intersection between Jacksonville, FL, and Charleston, NC
Witnesses: Charlie Little (pilot), two (2) commercial pilots (being instructed in multi-engine night-ops.), and another (adult) passenger
Main reference: International UFO Reporter (CUFOS), Sept. 1984, Pp. 4-6, (article by Dr. Willy Smith)
Airplane: Piper-Twin Commanche (PA-30)
Altitude: 8,000 ft initially, descended to about 5,500 ft.
Flt. origin: Opa-Locke, FL, Destination: Morristown,NJ (one (1)refueling stop planned)
Sighting Duration: about ten (10) minutes
UAP: One (1), Extremely bright. It allegedly illuminated the cockpit with green light.
Six white lights on front edge
Shape: equilateral triangle with equilaterial opening in middle
Other evidence in my files:
color photo of pilot with Dr. Smith
copy of IUR article
ltr. from Dr. W. Smith to me dtd. 26 Feb. 1999 with further details
ltr. from Philip Klass to W.Smith dtd. 22 Oct, 1984 (and Smith's reply) with seven (7) issues that needed clarification.
case summary by Robert. B. Klinn dtd. 13 Nov, 1984
FAA air-to ground transcript of radio communications during this alleged incident (copy also included in IUR article).
informal notes to/from R. F. Haines
Aviation Safety in America - A Previously Neglected Factor
by Richard F. Haines, Chief Scientist
October 27, 1967
0300L UP NE Jacksonville
This fascinating aerial encounter involved Charlie Little, pilot of a Piper-Twin Commanche PA-30 (N7942Y). He was multi-engine rated and a flight instructor. Two other commercially rated pilots, and a passenger were also on board. Having taken off from Opa-Locka, FL to Morristown, NJ, they were headed ENE at 8,000 feet altitude in uncontrolled airspace under an IFR flight plan but were in radio contact with Jacksonville ARTCC for safety reasons. Stars were visible in the dark sky.
Ground control helped them maintain a correct heading when their two VORs apparently displayed significantly large angular deviations toward the east. About half-way between Jacksonville and Charleston, SC over the ocean at least three of the occupants saw a light moving across the sky and interpreted it to be a commercial flight at high altitude bound for Miami. But the light began to descend and approach their airplane. The pilot radioed radar control to inquire if any other traffic was seen in their vicinity (now at their one o'clock position high and seemingly southbound). The answer was negative.
Little turned his landing and taxi lights on. He said (later), As the light came closer and closer, it was very apparent that we were going to pass very close and that the aircraft was not making any move to avoid us. He then asked for permission to descend immediately... We may need all the way to the deck immediately. He received permission to do so even though permission was not legally required. Under the circumstances, he was probably trying to set an example of extra-safe procedures for the benefit of the other two pilots on board. Little then disengaged the autopilot, pulled the throttle back and pushed the wheel forward ...trying to avoid a head-on collision. We descended to 6,500 feet but the lights came closer and closer. Then they saw not one but six, huge, round, bright, white lights in a (horizontal) row. A collision seemed imminent. Panicking, I yelled, 'We can't get away from him!' The situation seemed hopeless; there was no way to avoid him. We were all going to die because the pilot in the other craft wasn't paying attention. Little had to shield his eyes with his hands the lights were so intense. Suddenly, a soft green light was all over our cockpit.
Originally posted by IsaacKoi
With the details and references kindly supplied by Dr Haines set out above, I've pulled out the relevant article in the International UFO Reporter ("IUR") journal..
Oct. 28, 1967; Tunbridge Wells, Kent, UK
Cat. 3. Triangular object with bright white lights ahead. Slowly rose and moved away; car could then be restarted.
(Flying Saucer Review, Vol. 14, No. 3; See Rodeghier, 1981, p. 37 [E,L]) car.
NICAP Chronologies 1967
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
There are planes in the sky that will not be 'official' for 20 years.