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Global Meltdown: Investors Are Dumping Nearly Everything

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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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With no solution in sight for Europe and new fears of a global recession, investors dumped stocks and commodities and ran to the safety of U.S. Treasurys.

"The Fed will have to go on a publicity tour over the next few weeks, coming out and stating what is the metric by which they will judge this as a success or failure," said Kevin Ferry of Cronus Futures.

"The metrics we look at—the financial conditions index—it's worse today,"

www.cnbc.com...

Pretty scary
I'm thinking of investing in precious metals but who knows what will happen to that market as well in this manufactured environment.

Looking at all the other threads in GM this is really not looking good.

Should we stock up on food and water?
Also alcohol and cigarettes for trade? lol

2012 is approaching, is this the beggining?




posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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sounds more like a plug to get people to invest in US treasuries...poor saps will fall for it too.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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well, silver just lost $4.00 an ounce today, from 39 to 35......that is not good at all, especially since i was getting ready to sell mine i bought at 37

i hope it rebounds soon



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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This is the problem with the NWO plans of a one world government. We're seeing what the "world economy" does now. It's just a taste of more that will come, unless we start making changes.

1: End the Fed.
2: Repeal NAFTA, CAFTA and all other "free trade" agreements.
3: Put tariffs back on goods made in a foreign country.

A little "isolationism" will "isolate" your country from things like this. Then again, if you want the U.S. economy to be tied to Europe, which is tied to Greece, carry on as usual. It's amazing how a country as insignificant as Greece can cripple the global economy.

It's all manipulated now, and you're all going to lose any wealth you may have. Welcome to the NWO!



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Your Silver will hold it's value.

Note that this is the third week of the month which is when future's contracts are due to expire tomorrow.

Everyone tries to get the leg up on the selling by selling the day before the contract expires...

More sellers than buyers means that the price does go down

But, on the flip side, it also encourages a buying opportunity so the price will climb back up again in the coming week or two.

Historically, October is a very good month for silver.

PEACE.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Yea, I sell real estate in Fla. We have to use private money to build houses with even after people are approved for a mortgage and on contract. Today I sold one that required private investors to finance. Get this, $112,900 for a new house, she put $90,000 in cash down and still couldn't get a loan! It is tough all over. I figure the investor is covered. If she defaults, he has a new house for $22,900.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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investors never sell everything, they usually run to something.. easiest short term hedge against a falling market is the FOREX, dumping into Dollars or Tbills, even corporate bonds.

Metals will fall because the currency gets a boost from the flight.
Same for most other commodities.
Doesn't necessarily mean people are selling their Gold or Silver (unless you're a short term holder, but then again if you were I don't like you anyways)

Tomorrow the ECB and FED will say something dramatic, the trading algorithms will get a boost of positive headlines and buy up the deals to be had..

Yes... the crash is coming .. soon no doubt, but not today, not likely tomorrow either.. something catastrophic has to happen first .. ie Lehman 2.0



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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US investments are some of the least secure on the markets, why would people be putting their money into US bonds. Its like going to a casino where you can't win.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 03:38 PM
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Yeah, I guess you all need to know this.

Why the insiders have quit buying stocks


Something ominous is happening on Wall Street, but nobody has noticed.
The insiders have vanished. Chief executives. Board members.

The head honchos. The people who know.

Just a few weeks ago, they were out in force, buying up shares in their own companies with both hands.

No longer. They’ve disappeared. Almost overnight.


This is yesterday.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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How sad the affairs of the World economy are... even with all our dysfunction, USA Treasuries are still the safest investment on the planet.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 04:54 AM
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Don't worry people gold and silver are being manipulated by an increase in the margin requirements and they will soon surge to new highs. IMO this trend of crash and recovery will continue with the markets continuing to lose ground. Governments and reserve banks will do what they can but there's not much they can really do anymore!
The confidence in the system is breaking down and IMO I really don't know how the Elitist kept it afloat for so long but i guess it helps to control markets as well as one quarter of all assets. Even still I can't fathem how exactly they kept investors from running to the doors. Though I believe that these investors biggest concern is where exactly to park their holdings. Unless they can get their hands on physical gold and silver there is really no where to go! I believe the OTC gold and silver futures will end up consisting of more worthless paper unless you can get out before it's too late. Meaning the crooks are selling between 10 to a 100 times more holdings then are in their possession, though I am not 100% sure on this rumor but it does seem like the same three ring circus these markets have been running for years. I feel we are real close to a total monetary break down but don't quote me on that because i have been saying this since the beginnning of summer and it's possible that this can get dragged out at least till the end of the winter. In a way i hope i'm wrong but another part of me wants to see this end just so we can get this over with. It's like going for an operation, where you want to get it over and done with because you're in pain but you know the recovery after the operation will be 20 times worse but that's life here in the fast lane! God help us all to get through this cause there's a storm coming and most wont ever see clear skys again! Goodluck all!



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
This is the problem with the NWO plans of a one world government. We're seeing what the "world economy" does now. It's just a taste of more that will come, unless we start making changes.

1: End the Fed.
2: Repeal NAFTA, CAFTA and all other "free trade" agreements.
3: Put tariffs back on goods made in a foreign country.


4: Release the science of electrogravitics that We may have free energy, thereby removing the need for money.

If We do that, We will have abundance and freedom, liberty and much closer to justice than We see now.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 07:52 AM
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Some investment in gold/silver is good for a hedge.
But other metals are risky.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 08:09 AM
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"investors dumped stocks and commodities and ran to the safety of U.S. Treasurys."

I seriously lol'd there.... Ya, you guys go and have fun with that


And what do you mean is now a good time to stock up on food/water?!?!?! A good time was a long time ago, but now, YES! yes yes yes yes yes!! Good lord!



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia


With no solution in sight for Europe and new fears of a global recession, investors dumped stocks and commodities and ran to the safety of U.S. Treasurys.

"The Fed will have to go on a publicity tour over the next few weeks, coming out and stating what is the metric by which they will judge this as a success or failure," said Kevin Ferry of Cronus Futures.

"The metrics we look at—the financial conditions index—it's worse today,"

www.cnbc.com...

Pretty scary
I'm thinking of investing in precious metals but who knows what will happen to that market as well in this manufactured environment.

Looking at all the other threads in GM this is really not looking good.

Should we stock up on food and water?
Also alcohol and cigarettes for trade? lol

2012 is approaching, is this the beggining?


Dont (lol) at the alcohol, and tobacco, I've got a bunch saved up just for trading. This stuff is gonna be like gold.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
US investments are some of the least secure on the markets, why would people be putting their money into US bonds. Its like going to a casino where you can't win.


I think it is because Europe is considered riskier than US from geopoltical angle.
People have to park export surplus somewhere. In an environment when everything is risky, sovereigns will choose the dollar.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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The problem with US treasuries is that the worse the economy gets there, the more likely that the US treasuries will just be junk, I wouldn't even trust them as the Gold Standard is more of a safer investment than any sort of treasuries it really isn't guaranteed.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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The problem is gold is just a metal. Gold is not a currency.

The US dollar despite all its faults does give the holder the right to buy US goods.

As long as inflation is low in US, the confdence in dollar will remain.

If situation worsens in US, like hyper-inflation, then most likely foreigners will run away.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 07:59 AM
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Things to trade if TSHTF
Alcohol
tabacco
wepons - amuniton (good up selling point)
animals (chickes are good, don't need a lot of space, taste good and produce eggs)
dogs (security purposes, cats are useless I've always said that)
Tools ( small jobs currence)
Razors ( Men and women like to be smooth)
cosmetics ( in the Great depression womens cosmetics sales went up)
canned/presurved food
toilet paper ( nobody wants to go without that one)
Ute/truck : trading in things require alot of moving about
fuel: ( well der)
Small solar power cell: 12volt power cell at a local camping store was $29 bargan
ect...
in third world counties Micro-loans buy small NGO's have empowered many.
things I've been pondering just incase


edit on 25-9-2011 by wondera because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by vedatruth
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The problem is gold is just a metal. Gold is not a currency.

The US dollar despite all its faults does give the holder the right to buy US goods.

As long as inflation is low in US, the confdence in dollar will remain.

If situation worsens in US, like hyper-inflation, then most likely foreigners will run away.



That is not exactly correct. You forget that there are other ways to own gold besides having it physically, such as owning gold through a depository or through buying gold shares through the market. Also if you did have psyical gold in your possession you can trade the gold and get the proper amount of dollars in return.

The real problem with gold, is that it to is also a bubble. Let's say our economy crashes (which it will they are just delaying the inevitable) and years after the economy gets better, so much so that people will be trading like they did before and once again make huge money without the aid of gold. So eventually those people who owned gold through our coming economic problems will get absolutely slaughter during this time when the markets balances itself and makes a come back. That bubble the gold bubble will be the mother of all bubbles. However we have years even decades before that happens.

We have to first get through the problems now and the near future and gold and silver is a good hedge against an economy like this, except if the EU does fall and the Europeans say, ok we need to get back on the dollar
bandwagon again. Which will in turn lower the price of gold and silver, which you seen last week. However the dollar isnt stable either so we will see what happens. The outlook is not good at all though.



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