Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection

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I have yet to see any evidence from you that Relativity is flawed. What I see, instead, is a vast reservoir of experimentation and observation confirming Relativity with impeccable accuracy.

Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection

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Don't tell me...you think your tomato provides enough impeccable visible evidence to invalidate every scientific test and confirmation of Relativity.

edit on 16-10-2011 by CLPrime because: (no reason given)

...So from the point of view of a clock on board a GPS satellite, the positions of the neutrino source and detector are changing. "From the perspective of the clock, the detector is moving towards the source and consequently the distance travelled by the particles as observed from the clock is shorter," says van Elburg.

By this he means shorter than the distance measured in the reference frame on the ground.

The OPERA team overlooks this because it thinks of the clocks as on the ground not in orbit.

How big is this effect? Van Elburg calculates that it should cause the neutrinos to arrive 32 nanoseconds early. But this must be doubled because the same error occurs at each end of the experiment. So the total correction is 64 nanoseconds, almost exactly what the OPERA team observes...

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection

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Well, for one, General Relativity predicted that gravity could bend light, and sure enough Arthur Eddington proved Einstein right in his famous eclipse experiment in 1919.

Then there was also the observations carried out in 1974 by Russell A. Hulse and Joseph Taylor that won them the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1993. They confirmed the effect of "Gravitational Radiation" by studying the energy loss of two pulsars that are spiraling toward each other. Gravitational Radiation is a prediction of General Relativity, and Hulse's and Taylor's observations and calculations prove Einstein was right.

Another is the Geodetic Effect -- which is basically the curvature of space-time. Experiments carried out by the "Gravity B" space probe confirmed many of the nuances of the Geodetic Effect predicted by General Relativity. The Gravity B probe was the first instrument to be sensitive enough to accurately test the Geodetic Effect, proposed almost 100 years earlier. According to these experiments, General Relativity correctly quantifies the curvature of space-time.

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Incorrect. Gravity speeds up time so light takes a longer curved path

Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection

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Well, for one, General Relativity predicted that gravity could bend light, and sure enough Arthur Eddington proved Einstein right in his famous eclipse experiment in 1919.

Incorrect. Gravity speeds up time so light takes a longer curved path

Then there was also the observations carried out in 1974 by Russell A. Hulse and Joseph Taylor that won them the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1993. They confirmed the effect of "Gravitational Radiation" by studying the energy loss of two pulsars that are spiraling toward each other. Gravitational Radiation is a prediction of General Relativity, and Hulse's and Taylor's observations and calculations prove Einstein was right.

This again is a function of time and nobel prize imo was erroneously awarded for lack of an alternative explanation.

Another is the Geodetic Effect -- which is basically the curvature of space-time. Experiments carried out by the "Gravity B" space probe confirmed many of the nuances of the Geodetic Effect predicted by General Relativity. The Gravity B probe was the first instrument to be sensitive enough to accurately test the Geodetic Effect, proposed almost 100 years earlier. According to these experiments, General Relativity correctly quantifies the curvature of space-time.

edit on 10/18/2011 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)

Balloney. Again a function purely of time only. Planets do not repeat not follow the contours in space.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection

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Incorrect. Gravity speeds up time so light takes a longer curved path

Can you provide a link to information that explains what you are saying? everything i have ever read about the subject has said that gravity slows down time.