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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
I'm often accused of being a paid disinfo agent employed by - usually- the government. So are a number of other posters who broadly support the "OS".
let me tell you a little secret that most are not brave enough to say. As I am sure you know, there is no such thing as paid dis-info agents.... The people who call you these things are cowards. Afraid of considering all possibilities. Afraid of the possibility, that their belief, may be wrong.
It is just a way of trying to belittle others and discredit others for daring to disagree with you.
" I am right! I refuse to look at your evidence! You are just a dis-info agent!"
it is a scapegoat used by people who are unwilling to consider all sides....
Other such scape goats: Sheep, sheeple, CIA robot designed for the purpose of spreading dis info ( yeah some one actually accused me of that here.... And at that time I even had a link to my facebook in my signature )
People who are unwilling to examine all sides of a claim, research and truly consider both sides. People who refuse to admit they could possibly be wrong. People who refuse to consider anything that differs from their own opinion.
These are people who will call you names. But then again, what do I know? I am just a robot, built by the CIA for the purpose of spreading dis-infoedit on 22-9-2011 by gimme_some_truth because: (no reason given)
Sunstein has produced a pseudo-scholarly fake “analysis” as a basis for a call for the government to infiltrate and neutralize the movement through activities which create “cognitive dissonance,
it seems plausible that his purpose is to suggest that such actions have not even been considered before, let alone implemented
Sunstein’s deeply-flawed and legally-questionable arguments. Griffin penetrates the obfuscation and phony scholarship employed by Sunstein
Originally posted by cloaked4u
Am i to believe that? While people talk about both sides of a story/topic of discussion, that has been PRE slated so that it can be misinterpreted so that people will argue over both sides, when the real issue is not covered at all and if someone mentions the issue they get kicked off topic. After all, isn't A.T.S a listenning station anyways? Maybe are paid by the ELITES to get info on how to more control your thoughts and steer you away from truths, so that they can squander away what left of money and dignity we have left in our society. I think i hear the sound of a whip shortly. perhaps this thread will die shortly now that i said that. I'm sure alot of members if see this will think the same thing, or am i really that para noid?edit on 22-9-2011 by cloaked4u because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by cloaked4u
looks like it's getting buried fast, now on no# 2 maybe to a 4 soon and off to the archives to be looked over.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
1) Discredit and ridicule respected truth seekers no matter who they are.
2) Debunk and disrupt any thread that may have a grain of truth to it.
3) Influence mass opinion by posting the same things over and over.
4) Increase the validity of disinfo posts by staring each others regurgitation's.
5) Twist scientific facts to debunk critical arguments that wont go away.
6) Mock the intelligence of anyone with beliefs that differ from the mainstream.
7) Provoke arguments and off-topic discussion where all else fails.
8) Never admit defeat, keep on shoveling crap into the fire and it will burn.
9) Be an "honest and down to Earth guy" by debunking real hoaxes consistently.
10) Use reverse psychology when anyone accuses you of being a disinfo agent.
How could you possibly know that simply by being a moderator? Answer: you can't.
The government is not monitoring this site.
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Without individuals muddying the waters, fewer would cling to the cog. dis. and denial. And with luck We will go arrest that criminal team that perpetrated 9/11.
My point exactly! There are forums where this is happening. There are no debunkers, no voice of dissent. And yet they remain unpopular and no revolution is occuring. Which doesn't fit our ideas about what should happen at all.
And it does not take but a few vocal spewers of OS and way-out ideas for many to throw up Their hands and just side with the comfortable OS rather than the evidenced idea that it was an inside job.
Who are these "many"? Are you saying that there is a silent, undecided majority on these boards who are actually being swayed by what is written here?
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
ATS has no dis-info agents. Nor has there ever been any evidence of such things here. Please do not confuse a troll for a person who works for the government and spreads dis-info.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
How could you possibly know that simply by being a moderator? Answer: you can't.
The government is not monitoring this site.
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
You can believe anything you like. That is up to you. I am speaking strictly off of experience. I was a mod here for two years and worked behind the scenes, I can assure you that ATS is no "listening station" and that there are no paid elites here spreading dis-info.
Because not enough people do it and they aren't professionals payed to do it. ATS is the biggest conspiracy discussion forum on the internet. There have even been multiple threads in the past which have prompted government investigations. We some times talk about subjects that might even be considered a risk to national security. Who knows when someone is going to post something that contains classified information. At minimum they would have someone monitoring what is posted. ATS themselves even treats whistle-blower threads very seriously, and I'm willing to bet there are contingency plans in place for when such threads come into manifestation.
So why would the government pay people to do what millions do on their own, for free?
Nice use of point 10! Seriously though, no you are not a disinfo agent for having your own opinion. I very rarely ever accuse anyone of being a disinfo agent, but I have lots of suspicious usernames saved to my memory.
Or am I a dis-info agent for having an opinion of my own?
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
ATS has no dis-info agents. Nor has there ever been any evidence of such things here. Please do not confuse a troll for a person who works for the government and spreads dis-info.
How would You know that for certain? Just curious...
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Because not enough people do it and they aren't professionals payed to do it. ATS is the biggest conspiracy discussion forum on the internet. There have even been multiple threads in the past which have prompted government investigations. We some times talk about subjects that might even be considered a risk to national security. Who knows when someone is going to post something that contains classified information. At minimum they would have someone monitoring what is posted. ATS themselves even treats whistle-blower threads very seriously, and I'm willing to bet there are contingency plans in place for when such threads come into manifestation.
I cannot believe what I am reading here. Why are you so insistent on declaring with such absoluteness the lack of disinfo agents on ATS? I don't believe you are that ignorant, so your motivation lies elsewhere. You don't need to be a moderator to monitor what other people post and assess if they might be a disinfo agent. If the entire staff is unable to see any sort suspicious activity they can't be looking very hard.
How many times can I say I am basing my words off of experience? I know there are no paid dis-info agents because I have worked for ATS and with the owners and helped to ensure the safety of the site. There has never once been any indication of anyone watching you guys....
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
Or am I a dis-info agent for having an opinion of my own?
Nice use of point 10! Seriously though, no you are not a disinfo agent for having your own opinion. I very rarely ever accuse anyone of being a disinfo agent, but I have lots of suspicious usernames saved to my memory.