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US Walks out during ahmadinejad speech

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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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No it's because at least the United Kingdom, no doubt others, is just as culpable with regards to recent false flag attacks, god forbid he starts questioning the false reality propagated by the British gov't and media regarding 7/7!




posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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There is no room for discussion people.

There is no wiggle room, no point of middle ground, no point of communal interest that might be a basis for something to work with.

He's declaring complete sovereignity over the entire Muslim World, and all of its trade, social order, culture. He is claiming the part of the planet, the vast tract of land that all trade runs through. He is claiming the right to lead a BILLION people. Not for himself, but for his group of elite religious leaders.

There is no point where we can discuss this and some to some middle ground. He's claiming the LITERAL middle ground of the planet. The right to control the minds of a billion people, and the economy of the entire planet.

What is left when there is no more room for negotiation?

Start thinking about it.

Because right now as things stand, there is a chance that all the things that are being experimented on about the social order of the planet are going to go somewhere good.

But there is a better chance that *YOU* are now one of the people in time about to live through the start of a foundational war of the minds and bodies humanity.

You cannot have a state of acceptable equilibrium when I am willing to let you live as you are, and you are willing to let me do that until you get a chance to force me to accept your way.

The solution of the pacificists is to sacrifice on the altar of equilibrium and peace human beings who are inside those boundaries in favour of their leaders agreeing to leave us alone.

They are FOOLS.
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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Not really, it's even thrown around these parts that America today is an extension of the British Empire.

What's the Queen's got to do with Denver Airport, for instance?



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
The Iranian President speaking so clearly to U.S. fringe groups and conspiracy theorists, anti-government/military activists etc. in the USA, and saying things they all like to hear, and agree with is not at all an accident.

The fact that so many in the US find this man appealing, and agree with almost ANYTHING he says is not merely coincidental.... The fact that so many younger Americans are buying his BS should be a bit unnerving... Where did THAT conditioning come from?



Speaking to "fringe", "conspiracy theorists" and anti-government/military activists is wrong.

It's one man talking to everyone... some agree with his words. Hardly unique or the result of "programming".

If anything, you have been "programed" to believe people are not just individuals.. but part of a specific "group", fringe!!, left, right, liberal, anti this, pro that.. that media programming suggests are easily ridiculed.

Thats called attacking the messenger & those who agree, not the message... a favorite of National Socialists, doublethinkers et al.

Man says words and adults paid to listen stomp away out like bitter children..lol.. covering their ears "I can't hear you!! naaanaaaneenerneepooopahh". Must be programming from pre-school, eh?



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by bigyin
Why do the Americans walk out ?

I mean if they leave before the guy is finished then presumably they don't know what he said. So how can they justify walking out when they don't know what he said ?

It doesn't make sense. At least stay and hear what he says then if you have some objection to it follow the normal procedures for making your objection known.



The people who represent the people of the states are an embarrassment, childish, unintelligent and should be fired/banned for life from politics. How dare you speak for the people. Its no doubt the world hates americans. You have a bunch of retards speaking for you.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 02:05 PM
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That a man who does NOT believe you have the right to your own mind is appealling to people who think that they are some special group of free-thinkers and you don't think that there is something ODD about that is a form of insanity.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by GovtFlu
 


That a man who does NOT believe you have the right to your own mind is appealling to people who think that they are some special group of free-thinkers and you don't think that there is something ODD about that is a form of insanity.


I don't watch TV or buy into anything they tell me to. He's just a dude on TV to me.. saying things that others agree with. My x wife is from Iran, born & raised, she believes none of the things most here do. To her.. he's like cheney or bush.. an elitist despised by some, while others offer blind loyalty.

Based on his, and Iran's, behavior.. they are 100x less deadly & cruel the GOP & DNC party leaders. LMK when Iran launches fake wars that wipes other nations off the map... then I'll agree.. like a Nazi, nothing he has to say is worth hearing.

In this case he was speaking one version of reality to power.. the fact it aggravated those clowns makes me smile and means he probably struck a nerve. I hope it leads to per-mature aging, fatigue and other forms of unhealthy stress.. they deserve it for just being the soulless empty vessel lackeys they are.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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I'd walk out too, to be honest. While he has a point in 9/11 being an inside job, guess what? Many many other people think that as well. Doesn't mean you have to agree with all of his other points.

He also denied the Holocaust. I have family who survived the ordeal. I know many others whose families survived the ordeal. This man is a liar, and when you back religion quite like he does, lying seems all the more justified.

What we have here, in my humble opinion, is a globalist game, but one where both sides are eager for world domination - The NWO obviously, however Islam is also very vocal about overtaking the planet. Sadly we have both sides unwilling to come to peace, and we, the people, are the ones who always pay the price.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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I love all the armchair experts on political manuvering, asking "why did America walk out?". Honestly its a time honored political ploy. All of Iran's posturing won't conceal that they are in fact as power hungry as any nation in the west they seek to discredit. They want to be a world power and they want it -badly-.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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Those people walking out on him prove exactly what he is talking about which is basically that anyone who questions 911 or military action should be ignored. The question remains, if we do live in a free and just country, why is it that our own media refuses to allow people to have their own oppinion on topics such as 911 or military occupation? Why is it that only pro war and pro government individuals are able to get a seat on these talk shows? You have a presidential candidate in Ron Paul that is against illegal war and he gets little to no air time even when he wins key straw polls and debates. Why were people being arrested for exercising their 1st ammendment rights at a 911 memorial? Why are people being arrested right now in New York for peacefully protesting wallstreet?

This is not the country our founding fathers invisoned. We are no longer a republic nation that values the God given rights to freedom and liberty. We are an empire that occupies almost every other nation on this earth. 900+ military bases, atleast 2 undeclarred and illegal wars, the highest prison population in the world credited almost directly to attempting to force people not to use a chemical or plant and the top 1% ruling over the botton 99%. We have a system that is dedicated to the super rich even when it comes to health care and entertainment. This isnt Capitalism because Capitalism would require a FREE market, which we no longer have. It is virtually impossible for anyone in this country to create a small business unless they already hold a vast amount of wealth. This is the main reason why we have no jobs in America and government regulations on those who do own a small business force them out of the country.

The Iranian President isnt a 'good' man, but because he speaks truth on these issues he is at the very least worth listening to. You do not silence people for speaking their mind in a free nation. Let them walk out because they disagree, thats their right. But understand that when those rights are stripped from us, you cannot say you werent warned. The problem is Americans think that history doesnt matter to them and that it couldnt possibly repeat itself in our nation. The problem is even though government has changed in structure, human beings havent evolved past corruption. One third of the US population celebrate the 4th of July without even knowing what its about... nor do they care. Dont tell me that isnt done by design.

Let me be clear about one thing; The act of war is the lowest form of human behavior. We were given the gift of higher intelligents which is the reason we are the dominate species on this planet. If we were a stupid species the more agile animals with claws and sharp teeth would have eradicated us long ago. Humanity has the ability to talk out its problems and find solutions without the need of violence. And we as a species should be moving AWAY from war and towards peace and prosperity. The problem is with intelligence comes greed and corruption and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It is our test to see if we can put our species above our personal greed and find a way off this rock without killing everyone in the name of personal gain or worse, religion. Thus far, we have failed.
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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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This is proof that something weird is going on didnt this happen last year or are we really in a alternate universe.

on a serious note this guy speaks so much sense and they dont listen maybe because the truth hurts.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Don't you worry - they don't expect you to war. They expect to give you the choice to bow before them and convert. It is the way to Peace.

I expect most of you will be on the ground with your foreheads in the dirt.
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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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I would walk out too, i've got better things to do than listen to his holocaust denials and hate speach.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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Yes let us worship Israel as our overlords and masters. How dare someone say something that may bother the poor Israelis. Chosen people. Hand your money to them and praise the ground they walk upon. Poor poor Israelis had to go through a hard time in history.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by GreatWhiteFilms

He also denied the Holocaust. I have family who survived the ordeal. I know many others whose families survived the ordeal. This man is a liar, and when you back religion quite like he does, lying seems all the more justified.


Educate yourself before your repeat stupidity. I dont once remember him ever denying the holocaust. He mentioned that the official death toll was over 6 million and now it officially sits at 1/6th that so like intelligent people alike, some histories need to be revised.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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As I said, I would have walked out too. My grandchildren are home schooled and we are studying World War II and that includes the holocaust. How anyone can deny the holocaust happened---it's insane. Ahmadinejad is a ethnocentric nut job and if Iran ever gets ahold of nuclear war heads....the west is dangerously at risk to be the target of his hatred. And that's my honest opinion.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by e11888
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Yes let us worship Israel as our overlords and masters. How dare someone say something that may bother the poor Israelis. Chosen people. Hand your money to them and praise the ground they walk upon. Poor poor Israelis had to go through a hard time in history.


Iran has every right to walk out of whatever they want, just as all countries can do at the UN.

Again, I love how people defend Iran and how free it is yet dont recognize the freedom of others to not care what Ahamdenijad is saying or their freedom to stand up and walk out.

Why is that such an issue?



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Why does not Ahmadinejad speak about how he will change Iran into one day a tolerant society in which woman, gays and lesbians have equal rights?

Why does he not mention to the UN that he expects the 12th Imam prophet to arrive at a time of great trouble and in his religion will one day wipe out the Jews, Israel and the Cross of Christ because the Islamic version of Christ hates crosses and Jews.

Why does he not admit that Islam and the Arab agenda has been unable to form a steady relationship with each other along with Muslim nations and people and how many people were forced into conversion and their justice is by the sword in which they live and dies by?

He should speak about changing his nation and his belief structures rather than go on about America and Israel.

America has bases to bring peace and stability, so people like him don't start another world war, how many vaccinations and medicines have the Christian nations produced to save all peoples around the world? If it was not for western freedoms and god given inspired inventions the world population would not be at billion and something more like 2 billion.

Him and his belief system had it been the other way around would have killed us all, no rights or freedoms just misery no humour just ritualistic displays that does nothing, not even the rain falls on the Middle East with all the prayers they do.

What is wrong with Israel, proof is there that the prophets came from there, their tombs are still there to see, Zion is where Christ will return and his flock of Israelites are gathered from the four corners of the earth for those who seek God again which they do, in which prophecy foretold before the return of the Messiah.

Because of this the Arab nations have already been spelt out in the Bible and this cannot be just coincidence that Iran will get involved in trying to destroy Israel along with Russia, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Gaza strip and surrounding nations. War is deceit in the Islamic code of conduct so don't believe all they have to say. That is why the US cannot trust them nor does the rest of the sane world.

Ezekiel 38 Ezekiel 30 Psalms 38 and may others predict their fate, there could be delays something will happen to avoid this situation but it still in the mindset of each cultures religions and plans for the future.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by The time lord
Why does not Ahmadinejad speak about how he will change Iran into one day a tolerant society in which woman, gays and lesbians have equal rights?


Because he is not the leader of Iran, nor does he have any type of control over internal workings of Iran.

They are a theocracy for a reason, and its not so Ahamdenijad can give speeches at the UN.

The Ayatollah pulls the strings.... This is one of the many reasons there are current issues between the religious leadership and Ahmadenijad. Anyone know if his defense minister is still in jail? What about Ahmadenijads other minister who was arrested for sorcery?
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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by e11888
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Yes let us worship Israel as our overlords and masters. How dare someone say something that may bother the poor Israelis. Chosen people. Hand your money to them and praise the ground they walk upon. Poor poor Israelis had to go through a hard time in history.


Iran has every right to walk out of whatever they want, just as all countries can do at the UN.

Again, I love how people defend Iran and how free it is yet dont recognize the freedom of others to not care what Ahamdenijad is saying or their freedom to stand up and walk out.

Why is that such an issue?


Oh please.. you personally experience the Iranian lifestyle long enough to pass voir dire?.. or ANY of you internet experts?

My school district was flooded with Iranians, I married one.. they live normal lifestyles, happy even..and much much more educated. The average Iranian and average American probably put up with the same amount of govt fascism on a daily basis.. only the focus varies. Pittsburgh WTO footage doesn't much differ from Iranian govt oppression... ALL GOVTS oppress alike.

They drink alcohol like Americans smoke weed.. snickering at "the man" and his rules. They scoff at fascist rules just like we do.. and yes, some are jailed, beaten, falsely charged and all that.. same stuff that happens here in good ole America!

Where there is a will, there is a way.. like us, they know how to skirt around dumb laws, avoid police road blocks, and live happily around political ridiculousness.




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