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posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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So we have been warned?




posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Markets go up and they go down. Sometimes its a lot more or a lot less. I suppose that you are looking for a crash and want it to happen. Well its not. This is what stock markets do. They fluctuate. When they rise and fall it really doesnt mean much other than people like to gamble.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by gorgi
reply to post by JJDoggie84
 


Markets go up and they go down. Sometimes its a lot more or a lot less. I suppose that you are looking for a crash and want it to happen. Well its not. This is what stock markets do. They fluctuate. When they rise and fall it really doesnt mean much other than people like to gamble.


o poor gorgi, so little do you know. you going to get blind sided when it all comes crashing down. I feel sorry for you. Do you really think everything is going to be ok? do you really think your goverment is going to get us out of this?



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by gorgi
reply to post by JJDoggie84
 


Markets go up and they go down. Sometimes its a lot more or a lot less. I suppose that you are looking for a crash and want it to happen. Well its not. This is what stock markets do. They fluctuate. When they rise and fall it really doesnt mean much other than people like to gamble.


o poor gorgi, so little do you know. you going to get blind sided when it all comes crashing down. I feel sorry for you. Do you really think everything is going to be ok? do you really think your goverment is going to get us out of this?


Every other day there is a new prediction that the market will crash and that the crash is coming. When ? There most likely wont be another crash. There will be really really bad days but those happen and the world moves on. After 9/11/01 the markets tumbled but they recovered. Its not magic.
And yes the government does help. Its not an evil thing that you make it out to be. There are incompetent people there but they are the slim minority.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by gorgi

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by gorgi
reply to post by JJDoggie84
 


Markets go up and they go down. Sometimes its a lot more or a lot less. I suppose that you are looking for a crash and want it to happen. Well its not. This is what stock markets do. They fluctuate. When they rise and fall it really doesnt mean much other than people like to gamble.


o poor gorgi, so little do you know. you going to get blind sided when it all comes crashing down. I feel sorry for you. Do you really think everything is going to be ok? do you really think your goverment is going to get us out of this?


Every other day there is a new prediction that the market will crash and that the crash is coming. When ? There most likely wont be another crash. There will be really really bad days but those happen and the world moves on. After 9/11/01 the markets tumbled but they recovered. Its not magic.
And yes the government does help. Its not an evil thing that you make it out to be. There are incompetent people there but they are the slim minority.


your mistaking a small sale off, like 9/11/01, to a complete market collapse, Have you been to the store lately and seen the incresses in prices. This is just the start



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by gorgi

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by gorgi
reply to post by JJDoggie84
 


Markets go up and they go down. Sometimes its a lot more or a lot less. I suppose that you are looking for a crash and want it to happen. Well its not. This is what stock markets do. They fluctuate. When they rise and fall it really doesnt mean much other than people like to gamble.


o poor gorgi, so little do you know. you going to get blind sided when it all comes crashing down. I feel sorry for you. Do you really think everything is going to be ok? do you really think your goverment is going to get us out of this?


Every other day there is a new prediction that the market will crash and that the crash is coming. When ? There most likely wont be another crash. There will be really really bad days but those happen and the world moves on. After 9/11/01 the markets tumbled but they recovered. Its not magic.
And yes the government does help. Its not an evil thing that you make it out to be. There are incompetent people there but they are the slim minority.


your mistaking a small sale off, like 9/11/01, to a complete market collapse, Have you been to the store lately and seen the incresses in prices. This is just the start


There hasnt been a market collapse in over 80 years and there have been numerous safe guards to prevent that as well as a better regulated economy.
Prices increase. Thats a fact of life not a sign of the apocalypse.



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by gorgi

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by gorgi

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by gorgi
reply to post by JJDoggie84
 


Markets go up and they go down. Sometimes its a lot more or a lot less. I suppose that you are looking for a crash and want it to happen. Well its not. This is what stock markets do. They fluctuate. When they rise and fall it really doesnt mean much other than people like to gamble.


o poor gorgi, so little do you know. you going to get blind sided when it all comes crashing down. I feel sorry for you. Do you really think everything is going to be ok? do you really think your goverment is going to get us out of this?


Every other day there is a new prediction that the market will crash and that the crash is coming. When ? There most likely wont be another crash. There will be really really bad days but those happen and the world moves on. After 9/11/01 the markets tumbled but they recovered. Its not magic.
And yes the government does help. Its not an evil thing that you make it out to be. There are incompetent people there but they are the slim minority.


your mistaking a small sale off, like 9/11/01, to a complete market collapse, Have you been to the store lately and seen the incresses in prices. This is just the start


There hasnt been a market collapse in over 80 years and there have been numerous safe guards to prevent that as well as a better regulated economy.
Prices increase. Thats a fact of life not a sign of the apocalypse.


what does not having a crash in 80 years mean anything? Safe guards like what? The FDIC? There broke, thats one heck of a safe guard. I dont know how you can trust your goverment so blindly



posted on Sep, 26 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Crashes of massive scales like the one in the 20's wont happen any more. Not just the FDIC, the way the stock markets and exchanges are now set up differently and the industry as a whole as evolved and there is more government intervention now.
I do not trust the government blindly, I unlike you and most others here do not think that every act of government is an evil conspiracy and that we are minutes away from doomsday.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Never be too sure that the casino stock market wont crash, more so now.

The EU central bank is seeking more than $400billion to save european banks. It seems that it will need a Trillion for their banking buddies to be safe. Where do you think the $400 billion will come from, let alone the balance $600 billion.

From the casino stock market, of course!

Noting like a major rally, along with the compliant media and international groups praising it, with EU central bank downplaying the amount to hide the actual amount needed, the middle classes and lower rich will rush back to earn a quick buck now.

Only thing is, the predators are waiting, for the goose to be fatten up, then WHAM!!! Short sell, and it will be cavier, champagne and foie gras for the elites again as the banks reclaim back their funds to enslave mankind further. To hell with those not in their league. Fools that never learn deserve to get burn, for it is still one's free will to make a choice, even bad choices.



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Never be too sure that the casino stock market wont crash, more so now.

The EU central bank is seeking more than $400billion to save european banks. It seems that it will need a Trillion for their banking buddies to be safe. Where do you think the $400 billion will come from, let alone the balance $600 billion.

From the casino stock market, of course!

Noting like a major rally, along with the compliant media and international groups praising it, with EU central bank downplaying the amount to hide the actual amount needed, the middle classes and lower rich will rush back to earn a quick buck now.

Only thing is, the predators are waiting, for the goose to be fatten up, then WHAM!!! Short sell, and it will be cavier, champagne and foie gras for the elites again as the banks reclaim back their funds to enslave mankind further. To hell with those not in their league. Fools that never learn deserve to get burn, for it is still one's free will to make a choice, even bad choices.



your right, the problem is they are adding more debt to the problem and only "kicking the can down the road" this emergancy money is to only help avert a defalt for a few more months!



posted on Sep, 27 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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Gold is being short sold now as those failed banks are selling off part of their holdings to change it to dollars. Depositors will not want gold in exchange for their deposits. It isnt the end of the world yet. They want DOLLARS.

Those banks have no choice but to convert it to currencies, thus pushing up the dollar to justify the printing of more euro currency for depositors.

When those tottering banks run out of money, when parliaments refused to sanction the use of $400 billion to bailout banks AGAIN, as rightly so for NO capitalist enterprise is 'too big to fall', more of the gold holdings will be sold to change into cash.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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President Obama was right to voice out realistically that the European banking crisis had spooked the market.

The reality is that the European banks are facing liquidity problems now. A lot. Billions needed to shore themselves up or they will go bust within days and face liquidation.

Thus the best and fastest way to get real cash is from the casino stock markets around the world where they are the 'house'. The ECB, central banks of various rich nation and individual European banks are eyeing hungry for foolish investors to come in.

They do have stocks of companies in their hands, and will short those that they do not own, to get hold of some funds now, as they did to gold, although slowly just to cover and meet daily withdrawals such as Siemen's hundreds millions withdrawn amongst many other european companies.

Imagine this.

You and your friends are onboard a yacht that had a motor problem. It is drifting but still moving. On the waters are sharks circling around your yacht, waiting for some fool to either have some fun with a swim or drop overboard, so that those sharks can pounce.

Those sharks are the European banks and central banks. Already they had pounce upon yesterday's fools. Asia and Europe closed down today. US is now trading, and there seem still have plenty of fools I guess.

Now is a dangerous time to enter the casino if one values his savings. There are other ways to make money. Go to a real casino where at least you know the odds are not as rigged as stock markets. Or invest in properties. Those are assets you can see and get rental income immediately if the rents are kept rational. Or invest in up and comming movies. There's still a market there.

Or do the proper investments - band as a group of investors and invite entreprenuers with ready to market quality products that meet mankind's current needs for a meeting, and then if prove worthwhile, sink your funds in while at the same time, press your legislators to push for national protectionism, or you and your entreprenuer's effort will go to waste with other international predators ready to steal ideas, cut corners and rush out junk imitations.

Good Luck!



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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The WORLD BANK and IMF are the BANKSTERS that created the world loan industry that now controls the world by loaning money to governments and mix global bad debt into their banks and forcing compliance . The Banksters can then manipulate the economy and DIRIVATIVES hit hard around the world .
Ahmshel Bauer said if he can issue the currency he cared less who made ruled the country . Because he could manipulate them tro get what he wants and let them take it on the head just like the French Revelotion .



posted on Oct, 10 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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Once again today, the elites are throwing portions of their monies into the market, buying up stocks, hoping that some fools will be tempted to jump in now.

The elites will lose nothing, afterall, in this casino, they are the 'house'. When the gamblers start to play a neat level, the rug will be pulled with sell orders. Money gained.

It was not for nothing that Merkal insisted on private funds be asked to help shore up the banks. What better way than daylight robbery upon the stock exchange casino - using others funds, a principle they found for their success?

The European govs know what they have to do, and that is to let the banks collapse. They are too big to be saved without immense suffering from mankind.

1. Audit the banks and those whom are insolvent, declare bankruptcy. Let the depositers sue the bankers, seek for legal liquidation of assets. This is the capitalist way, and banks are capitalist entities, not and never was charity foundations.

2. Govs - representatives of the sovereign people, are not responsible for the success or failures of capitalist enterprises. They can only create the environment and oversight for a level playing field, checks and balances if nothing is hidden, but in the end, the enterprises are solely responsible alone.

3. Pensioners or pension fund holders will have to undertake class action suits against their own pension fund operators, sue them even to the pants that they are wearing. The operators are responsible for gain, AS WELL AS losses, NOT the sovereign people.

4. Legal liquidators will have to use international court legal systems to verify, account and go about assessing and obtaining overseas debts recollection, from those defaulting nations. It will take a long time, and hopefully, in that period, those nations whom no longer face crippling debt payments, would have survived on their own GDP and may even had sustain growth, and would be in a position to fairly repay its debts, some if not totally, for it was their greedy leaders and cronies whom had squandered the loans, not the citizens. Those leaders will have to face justice.

5. Depositors whom had lost their savings by insolvent banks, will have to wait just like every biz case for the restitutions of their funds. They deposited their funds or investments to banks, not to the gov, thus no way the Sovereign People is responsible to refund such monies to them.

What can be done is instead, out of charity and goodwill for fellow citizens, social welfare be doled out in small portion to those needy and may the depositors appreciate such kind hearted gestures. This is far better than to print money out of thin air to balance the erraneous banks which ultimately will fall again.


6. Remain banks will most likely dare not lend anymore, leading to a slowdown in the economy. The govs will then have to print more money, devalue the dollar, and use it for infrastructure spending to stimulate and circulate wealth. Greedy lending speculators will rise, offering loans but at unconscionable rates such as 80 -150% annually.

In the past, usury was punishable by death. Fortunately, we live in far more advanced and civilised times. Laws must be legislated to ensure that usury does not exist in these times and that max fines will be imposed if usurious lenders are discovered with their often cunning lending methods evident.

To summarize - the Sovereign People are not responsible for the success or failures of banks, thus should not be punished or made to pay for their losses.
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