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Originally posted by EvanJP
This is absolutely sickening. I have to say this, revolt in the U.S. is coming, this is out of hand. Such a disregard for human life should be grounds for prosecution.
Originally posted by kerazeesicko
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Originally posted by IceFlower
Originally posted by EvanJP
This is absolutely sickening. I have to say this, revolt in the U.S. is coming, this is out of hand. Such a disregard for human life should be grounds for prosecution.
I would absolutely love if this country did revolt - against the constant stream of illegals coming into this country.
It is not disregard for human life, she is treated the same as any other CRIMINAL (pregnant or otherwise) will be treated in a medical situation.
Prisoners are chained to a bed - so what?
Originally posted by felonius
mighty brave behind your keyboard son.
doubt you would be as much in person.
have a good evenin.
May your family remain safe.
Originally posted by felonius
reply to post by Misterlondon
Had it been a Guatemalan that entered into Mexico for instance, she would have likely been shot dead.
I'd say we are fairly compassionate. in that regard.
Originally posted by Misterlondon
Originally posted by felonius
reply to post by Misterlondon
Had it been a Guatemalan that entered into Mexico for instance, she would have likely been shot dead.
I'd say we are fairly compassionate. in that regard.
ah..but isn't this what makes your nation great? isn't this what your nation stands for?
i come from a place that has a massive amount of immigration.. more than you could possibly imagine... i dont like what happens here and there are real problems in the uk now.
but.. i dont blame the immigrants personally, they are human beings like you and i.. they just want a better life for themselves and their children, and you can bet your ass id be doing exactly the same thing if it meant my child lived in a clean safe environment with an education and was able to eat 3 good meals a day, rather than live in a hut with no food, no running water, no hygiene, no education etc..
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by Quadrivium
Sorry, I do not see the problem here.
When you knowingly break the law then you know there will be consequences. If the mother and child were not physically hurt -no harm no foul.
Many of you need to dry your eyes and bandage your bleeding hearts.
Quad
How do You define "hurt?" As in an infant failing to get the immune system enhancers in mother's milk?
I'd call that criminal to deny an infant that advantage in life.
Are you willing to allow others to move into your house and disrupt your way of life regardless of "how nice" they are? Are you PERSONALLY happy to feed, clothe, and house them.....in YOUR house? I'm not. Seems that your country is (shall we say) not doing very well with "diversity". "Dont come into this neighbor if your not a muslim" ?
Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by Vitchilo
A US citizen gets arrested for anything they are giving birth, guess what? They are shackled to their hospital bed. To give you a better scenario, drunk driver kills 4 people in car crash, she is a US citizen she is fine but went into labor, she will be shackled to her bed too, until after giving birth and being released from the hospital, then taken in on the charge, it's done all the time.
Oh and probably have another charge brought for drinking while pregnant, which is neglect/abuse.edit on 22-9-2011 by ldyserenity because: to add
tell me something.. how would you feel if i came and lived in america? im english , work hard have a good profession. how would you feel about that?
Originally posted by EvanJP
This is absolutely sickening. I have to say this, revolt in the U.S. is coming, this is out of hand. Such a disregard for human life should be grounds for prosecution.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Vitchilo
All elements of EMTALA as well as HIPPA were followed to the letter. The requirements for an in custody patient were followed. state law was followed and is in complaince with US Supreme Court rulings dealing with in custody patients and medical responsibility.
If anything its going to be possible that the lady wont have any medical bills. Because she is in the custody of the Sheriff, they are echnically responsible for it.
The guy talking about driving while revoked / suspeneed is NOT accurate. Municial officers can cite and release. County Sheriff's, who operate under state law, are generally required to arrest and take to jail people who are DWL/DWR.
I am getting a little bit tired of people breaking the law and then getting upset because they demand special treatment.edit on 22-9-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by Vitchilo
And why are these women always so fat? I mean I am certainly not impoverished, but I am not wealthy at all either but I couldn't get that fat if I tried, doesn't seem to me they are "Starving". "BOOHOO" They look like they're really starving.edit on 22-9-2011 by ldyserenity because: spelling
Originally posted by macman
Actually you are kind of wrong, but kind of right.
It is a top down idea for enforcement of the law.
City/Town/Municipality officers can and will enforce local, county, state and federal law.
County Sheriffs can and will enforce county, state and federal law.
State Officers can and will enforce state and federal law.
Federal Officers can and will enforce federal law.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by macman
Actually you are kind of wrong, but kind of right.
It is a top down idea for enforcement of the law.
City/Town/Municipality officers can and will enforce local, county, state and federal law.
County Sheriffs can and will enforce county, state and federal law.
State Officers can and will enforce state and federal law.
Federal Officers can and will enforce federal law.
Uhm, ok...
As a municipal officer I can enforce city code as well as state laws. I am not empowered to enforce Federal law since its nowhere near my jurisdiction.
The only time federal law can be enforced by local / state is when they are a part of a federal task force. If we could enforce federal law I would not need to contact ICE everytime I come across an illegal.
Jurisdiction issues aside, no laws were violated by law enforcement in the manner the pregnant mother / in custody was handeled. As some other posters have already stated, why do people who break the law think they should receive special treatment?
Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by felonius
Are you willing to allow others to move into your house and disrupt your way of life regardless of "how nice" they are? Are you PERSONALLY happy to feed, clothe, and house them.....in YOUR house? I'm not. Seems that your country is (shall we say) not doing very well with "diversity". "Dont come into this neighbor if your not a muslim" ?
no.. to be honest its not dealing with it very well, and yes ive had my life severly disrupted by it. you couldn't even begin to understand how this country is screwed up..
but i don't hate them and i don't wish harm or inhumane practices on them, ie shackling a woman during childbirth..
hate is unnecessary, its one of the major problems in the world, its exactly what your talking about with the "dont come into this neighbourhood if your not muslim" comment, just reversed..
your living in a modern world buddy, and this is the way of the world you live in. tonight your communicating with an english guy.. maybe you have communicated with someone in australia, france, mexico, brazil etc and tomorrow people from these countries could be standing next to you in the gas station..
tell me something.. how would you feel if i came and lived in america? im english , work hard have a good profession. how would you feel about that?