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Your concept of me and what I said doesn't change that Murder by definition is unsanctioned and hidden killing. I wouldn't have a need to play semantics if people would pay attention to what words mean. Killing and murder do not have the same meaning, and calling one by the other's name does not make them anything but what definition they fit.
Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by CynicalDrivel
Stopping a murderer by murdering him. Don't play semantics. Your hypocrisy oozes out yet you continue to defend the indefensible.
Hypocricy is to have pretenses, or a false face. I have not hidden who or what I am in here, not even by hiding that I have a conflict of interest on this subject matter--which I do. So you fail to make your point because I'm not hiding a darn thing.
c.1200, ipocrisie, from O.Fr. ypocrisie, from L.L. hypocrisis, from Gk. hypokrisis "acting on the stage, pretense," from hypokrinesthai "play a part, pretend," also "answer," from hypo- "under" (see sub-) + middle voice of krinein "to sift, decide" (see crisis). The sense evolution in Attic Greek is from "separate gradually" to "answer" to "answer a fellow actor on stage" to "play a part." The h- was restored in English 16c.
2) in the event that I seemed hypocritical in my pov of a "mistake" in an execution, consider the following; if a doctor is guilty of malpractice-should we stop medicine? If a building contractor's house falls down- should we stop erecting buildings? If a student doesnt learn in school do we shut them down?? the answer is NO.
Therefore, maybe instead of considering the ENTIRE system flawed, identify the problems with each case. States with the death penalty evoke a general deterrent for offenders committing capital crimes.
And with jury trials in these offenses, it is the JURY that determines guilt, not just one person or a crooked lawyer...it is everyday people. The judge will impose the death sentence. And don't you think if a case made it through an investigation, a grand jury, pre-trial conferences, trial, and sentence that there might be a sense of "he did it".
Originally posted by elevatedone
reply to post by roughycannon
If you're guilty and dead then you're not costing the tax payers millions of dollars to keep you clothed and fed.
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
if , as you claim - capital punishment does not deter crime , then does any punishment or statute deter crime ?
if not - why enforce or uphold any of them ?
Originally posted by brilab45
America is supposedly founded upon Christian principles. I disagree. Very obvious it was not.
Thou shall not kill. One of the ten commandments that we most certainly don't follow.
When Perry spoke about the death penalty and people cheered, I was dismayed to say the least.
Apparently we are not of Christian values. We are of the ancient Colosseum times. Blood and more blood!
Execution is wrong on all levels. Are we cretins? How many people have been executed that are innocent?
Christian nation my arse. We are no better than Iran. Pathetic.
the death penalty is very very Christian, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, life for a life. Have you read that book you are talking about. vengeance killing is all the rage in the bible.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Originally posted by CaDreamer
then how do you reconcile vengeance is mine sayeth the lord time and again the god of the bible executed people, entire cities, entire peoples (genocide) his reasons are unimportant. saying that people who vouch for the death penalty are not Christians, is in fact a silly assumption based on... faith? it sure isn't based on the bible. remember there are two volumes...
i agree though that the bible has nothing to do with the subject and is a distraction from the issue. as i stated waaaay back on the first page, i am for eliminating the death penalty entirely, even if its use can be justified, its application is too flawed to be effective.
i am also anti war...
edit on 27-9-2011 by CaDreamer because: typo / clarity