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yes i can explain it.
you just wont accept it.
i feel like everything here is pretty much purposeless except us. why is that? why does nothing else matter at all. we can kill off everything if we decided to.
we are the main attraction to earth, and in my eyes everything was put here for us.
oh wait, thats what the damn book the bible says right?
what im saying is dung beetles, ants, cockroaches, termites, etc. were specifically made for cleanup, nothing more…
clearly were capable. look at the grizzly population when the settlers moved across the states. it dwindled to practically nothing. that would go for all endangered species. what would happen if we weren't told to protect them? shouldnt they evolve and not let that happen? let me guess "they were much weaker than you cause we are far superior" even though according to you we came from them.. makes no sense
Protozoa, Gastraeada, Helmintha, Prochordonia, Arcania, Cyclostoma and Selachii Se`la´chi`i
n. pl. 1.An order of elasmobranchs including the sharks and rays; the Plagiostomi. Called also Selacha, Selache, and Selachoidei. and if im reading that jumbled tree wrong i should started at Cyclostoma. (which is not far off from sharks but you jump all over it like "woah woah woahhh.. we were never sharks.. we were bonless slimy fish get it right" yet you defend it still like its not just as ridiculous) again you jumping all over the small errors
so what was the deal with us? monkeys are still here. couldnt of been that rough for them…
heres where i got the temperature. but i shoulda said the atmosphere.idk how much can change in the atmosphere that would make life want evolve in a crazy fashion, besides temp, humidity, and oxygen/nitrogen to ratio. besides, if it started in the water what would that matter?
just to set you guys straight, im not against science like its the "devils work" obviously i agree. everyone in the world does. it just doesn't explain why we were monkeys. sorry.. the only beef i have with evolution is it putting us pretty much a shade above a monkey when i know that theres never been any proof of us ever being one besides some micro evolutionary finds leading you guys to that conclusion. as far is proof goes. again. you cant explain why everything is as diverse as it is. like explain color, and appreciation for it, or for anything for that matter. explain love, but most of all explain why if everything else in your evolution idea, meshes together forming us into what we are. why do we not just do our one purpose like everything else and contribute? why did we excel and everything else paled in comparison? like we were special or something. nothing does what we do.. point out an animal and all show you 5-10 just like it. but humans.. not too much like us huh? thats why you jump right to your monkey conclusion cause its all you can come up with
Long ago, before there were any people, the world was young and water covered everything. The earth was a great island floating above the seas, suspended by four rawhide ropes representing the four sacred directions. It hung down from the crystal sky. There were no people, but the animals lived in a home above the rainbow. Needing space, they sent Water Beetle to search for room under the seas. Water Beetle dove deep and brought up mud that spread quickly, turning into land that was flat and too soft and wet for the animals to live on.
Grandfather Buzzard was sent to see if the land had hardened. When he flew over the earth, he found the mud had become solid; he flapped in for a closer look. The wind from his wings created valleys and mountains, and that is why the Cherokee territory has so many mountains today.
As the earth stiffened, the animals came down from the rainbow. It was still dark. They needed light, so they pulled the sun out from behind the rainbow, but it was too bright and hot. A solution was urgently needed. The shamans were told to place the sun higher in the sky. A path was made for it to travel--from east to west--so that all inhabitants could share in the light.
The plants were placed upon the earth. The Creator told the plants and animals to stay awake for seven days and seven nights. Only a few animals managed to do so, including the owls and mountain lions, and they were rewarded with the power to see in the dark. Among the plants, only the cedars, spruces, and pines remained awake. The Creator told these plants that they would keep their hair during the winter, while the other plants would lose theirs.
People were created last. The women were able to have babies every seven days. They reproduced so quickly that the Creator feared the world would soon become too crowded. So after that the women could have only one child per year, and it has been that way ever since.
One hypothesis for this mechanism is that part of the population of the common ancestor became geographically isolated from the rest of the population over a long period of time, perhaps owing to a barrier such as the Rift Valley, or mountains or rivers. Such geographic isolation would prevent the process of gene flow from the population on one side of the barrier to the population on the other side. Over time, different mutations would accumulate in the two populations, resulting in different evolutionary paths and ultimately in an inability to interbreed. Once populations no longer interbreed in the wild, there can be no gene flow between them and each will follow its own divergent evolutionary path. This process is known as allopatry.
Another hypothesis is that different subgroups of the same species, for some reason such as sexual preference or specialisation to a particular narrow niche, stop interbreeding and eventually become incapable of doing so – speciation results but without geographic separation. This is known as sympatric speciation.
One type of sympatric speciation is potentially caused by major mutations that prevent successful interbreeding between parts of the population that have the mutation and parts that do not: mating between the two groups either does not result in offspring or in hybrid offspring which are themselves sterile (whilst breeding within each group – that with and that without the major mutation – is fully fertile). It would be interesting to know which of these mechanisms led to the divergence of human and chimpanzee lineages all those millions of years ago.
One of the best examples of sympatric speciation in animals is with the 200 different species of cichlids that inhabit Lake Victoria in East Africa. Sympatric speciation has occurred here as a result of variations in available resources, as well as selective mating based on coloration. This idea was tested by a group of scientists at Holland’s University of Leiden using P.pundamilia (blue back) and P. nyererei (red back). Although females of the P. pundamilia species only mated with males of the same species in normal lighting, they mated with the P. nyererei males in monochromatic orange lighting which made the two species appear identical. The resulting hybrids between the two species were still fertile. Mate choice based on coloration led to sympatric speciation within the cichlid species in this case.
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thats the best example of that^. lol now i can say i disagree with you even more after reading your points. the best example is a fish.. nice. cold-booded, lay eggs, and filter oxygen with gills.. yea im gonna go ahead and say a dolphin is closer to proving evolution wrong then that statement proving you right. as far as swimming creatures go a dolphin is the closest to us. but for some reason it never made it all the way to a man.. they you say "but these cold blooded egg layers over here, they are the real deal" they aren't even mammals.. well obviously you believe this out of proof. oh what? no proof besides small changes into the same but slightly different species? no missing link of how fish got to land? you guys are missing every crucial species that made the next step transition to us. id like to believe that at least one of those species wold have made it.. like frog to monkey. thats a huge change. there should be like 10,000 different species between monkey and them. now show me a monkey frog.
edit on 20/11/11 by masqua because: 'ex' tags and a link to external content
If you’re asking why we diverged, here's some information, complete with references.
Originally posted by RebelRouser
reply to post by iterationzero
If you’re asking why we diverged, here's some information, complete with references.
btw it really doesnt mean $h!t to me when you throw out things as evidence and every sentence begins with "One hypothesis" "Another hypothesis", and full of "its believed" and "Could it be's?" and "as this model goes". which all say the same thing.. "somebody made this # up and we cant test it or prove it. bet let me tell you im 100% sure im right. its proven that 60% of the time it works everytime..edit on 20-11-2011 by RebelRouser because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RebelRouser
reply to post by colin42
You did not answer any of mine though. Not even ,if Termites and ants are just clean up crew, nothing else, Explain what the Queens, Drones, Soldier, Worker (also acts as nursemaid, food gather, nest builder).
oh my bad. i forgot you need the stupid things explained.. queen- you need the queen to make more ants. really? soldiers- protection. drones - scouts that look for more food. idk why im going into why any of those are in a colony of ants. i thought t was pretty self explanatory that you need all those things to ensure a colony to survive and thrive.if anything your proving yourself wrong by saying
We have this thing called intelligence, and we are the most intelligent species on the planet. That is the reason we seem to have power. Because we can think and make decisions. It wasn't some magic that allowed us to this. It is our brains. Intelligence is the #1 survival tool today for humans.
clearly all things have intelligence and its the #1 survival tool for EVERYTING you stooge. my point is ants were here to be ants, monkeys monkeys, people people, and so on. like it was specifically designed to do something or be there as easy prey for another species to enable it to thrive, yet have such an abundance of itself and be so meaningless that it works out perfectly. like fish for instance. to a tard they would say "wow thats cool what are the odds" literally over 100.,000,000,000,000 times" but to anyone that uses that intelligence we posses you have to look at it like "wow it just happened to be like that? no way, entirely too complex." a good line i just heard was "evolution is like putting a bomb in a pile of metal scrap and blowing it up, then out fly's a nice bowing 747"edit on 20-11-2011 by RebelRouser because: (no reason given)edit on 20-11-2011 by RebelRouser because: (no reason given)edit on 20-11-2011 by RebelRouser because: (no reason given)edit on 20-11-2011 by RebelRouser because: (no reason given)
We have this thing called intelligence, and we are the most intelligent species on the planet. That is the reason we seem to have power. Because we can think and make decisions. It wasn't some magic that allowed us to this. It is our brains. Intelligence is the #1 survival tool today for humans.