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Originally posted by honestyblaze
reply to post by colin42
How can there BE any understanding of Evolution when it has not been proven as scientific fact? You are not looking for answers that a curious analytical mind would look for... Your just looking for a pissy argument that has no basis in REAL reality. It is a THEORY. Perhaps you should look that word up & start your own theorizing about whether you are ignorant, or is it the rest of the world. I read my comments again. They were reasonable, in that you did not dispute my points, & they were intelligent compared to your own replies. Think on genius. One of us is ignorant, but it is not the one with the open mind & panoramic vision. I believe in Darwin but I don't believe what he says, because after reconsideration, neither did he! God has made no such mistake so I have no reason to not believe him until he does. Peace out.
Did you even read what you replied to?
Nobody said that using graphics was new. What I said was when evolutionists use it they are called fake
He proved nothing was alien teeth or anything else. Certainly not a different species. Same goes for jaw muscle
I don't think anyone would run themsselves in circles like this. I think it's clear it wants this to be laid to rest just like when he told the owners it should take about 3 months and its been 12 years.
The reason why the name of the 'person' who would refuse to look even if 10,000 differences were shown likely only exists in Pye's mind. Until he can produce this person that is the only conclusion. Pye is lying.
I wont labor the point because you seem unable to accept that even Pye says clearly ONE HUMAN MOTHER.
I think it was pretty clear that the first lab couldn't have had the technology to prove or dissprove it as alien. All they could do was prove it to be human, if that was the case. If they had ONLY looked at the mtDNA I can see where things went astray. This is a special case where the mother and carrier of the child are NOT one in the same which your having a problem understanding. Of course its all explained in the first video and quite well.
Pye stated geting DNA from something so old would be hard. Then claimed mischief from labs. So Pye again uses his version of the truth which is in plain language deception.
He stated that no matches were found on this planet which is a leading statement to make one think alien and it has worked with you it seems.
I guess he would have to sell a hell of a lot of books to get a quarter mill.
What was easy to test with regards the GNOME? He has not found it. He was guessing and requesting funding, from people like you. Why cant he fund it out of the money from one of his books? If he is so sure he will make millions out of his next.
I don't think he challenges evolution, I think he clearly lays it to rest.
Lingo cleared. He challenges evolution that has overwhelming evidence with nothing and then preaches about his idea which has no evidence at all.
The skull has an alien mother, an alien father and a human carrier.
You're seriously confusing belief with knowledge
The bible isn't objective evidence for anything but what people BELIEVED, and that includes that creation hypothesis. Even worse, we can show that this creation hypothesis is DEMONSTRABLY wrong.
No need to get angry about it, sometimes the facts hurt
That archeological evidence may have been removed from this earth because of intervention. Thats what this is all about, and why you miss so many things. We are the only planet that we are aware of that has plate techtonics. This happened because water was added to this planet after the planet was created. Come to think of it, thats in the bible as well. You need to realize that once again, intervention caused this as well. He shouldn't have done this. Lack of evidence of flood is everywhere and really depends on how much water was used. Our DNA does NOT confirm we are related to primates, that is whats called overlap. We are 97% the same as primates and 70% the same as rats, and about 50% the same as the alien skull. That 3% is a big difference. If you don't agree than how much do you think we have in common with rats? I too have found many contradictions in the bible as well, and was able to clear all of them up realizing that intervention had been overlooked.
Please start applying some basic logic
There's so much demonstrably wrong in the bible, blindly believing the rest is ludacris. The exodus of the Jews demonstrably never happened as told in the bible because there is NO ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE, that global flood didn't happen because there is no GEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE for a global flood (only local ones), and our DNA fully confirms that we have a common ancestor with today's primates...all stuff that's demonstrably RIGHT, and in direct contradiction to the bible.
It's beyond nonsense to claim the bible is infallible and always right given basic biology and science today. I mean, comon', are you seriously going to claim people can survive inside whales?? Really??? Please don't make me spill my drink laughing
That archeological evidence may have been removed from this earth because of intervention.
Thats what this is all about, and why you miss so many things.
Lack of evidence of flood is everywhere and really depends on how much water was used.
Our DNA does NOT confirm we are related to primates, that is whats called overlap. We are 97% the same as primates and 70% the same as rats, and about 50% the same as the alien skull.
I must have missed it, I would love to answer any you have.
Forget the bible. It is not the question in this thread. A few pages ago you said hands prove we are not from this planet but failed to respond to my reply or any of the other points I raised.
Originally posted by colin42
reply to post by itsthetooth
Please try to post correctly. Posting the way you have your arguments become even harder to understand.
I don't think so, I think when people claim they have been abducted by aliens, and we do have people dissapearing all over the globe, I think it explains the possibilitys.
Your asking for a bit of a leap of faith here and that with a belief that has no holes is a poor start
If we, Humans were brought here explain the connection/relationship we have with all life on THIS planet.
I think where you are missing the ball is that intervention could be the missing link to all of these creations. All life that we know of on this planet did not evolve from one another. Even if we did come from primates, who made the other life?
That is the question you need to answer. You are the one saying 'We know life did not evolve from one another'. I am asking you to explain how if not evolution do we see the diversity around us.
There are planets out there that are forming from gasses right now, and when they are done forming, there will be life on those planets.That life would all know how there existance came into being without any question. If you ever have to ask yourself how we came into existance there is only one valid answer for sure, your not from here. There is NO WAY you could NOT know where you are from unless your not from here.This is why I keep saying you guys are digging to deep while the answers should just be on the surface and everywhere.
That makes no sense at all and I have read it a few times so what point you are trying to make is lost on me
According to a program I watched on the history channel, planets seem to just form from out of nowhere. A joke once mentioned last I wrote about this is that there is a giant celestial squid named trevor, pooping out planets. All hail to trevor.
I suggest you choose programs you watch with more care.
Anyhow, I like to use the example of the anteater. The anteater is well equiped to function on this planet. He has fur to keep him warm, a long snout to sniff out ants, long claws to tear up ant hills, and a long sticky tounge to catch ants. There is no question that this critter is an ant eating machine. If he ever grew a brain one day do you think he would have any problem figureing out what his purpose is in life? Not at all. Now look at humans. Our hands would have specific purposes in design, what is that exactly, we don't know because its not here on earth.
I disagree. If an anteater evolved the ability to reason he would definitely ask 'why am I here and what is my purpose' what your saying in effect is would he know his diet and that is completely different.
Hands dont have a specific purpose in design????
Our hands are probably the keystone of our success. Why hands are proof that we came from off world in your opinion leaves me agog.
edit on 12-11-2011 by colin42 because: Hands
For that to be true, you'd have to show clear, objective evidence that a) all archeological evidence WAS indeed removed (you haven't done that), and b) explain why exactly they hid that archeological evidence (and only that, because we have tons of other archeological remains).
You haven't done either, so I call bull****
Your asking trivial things that were taught in first grade. Everyone knows most of the earth has signs that it was under water at one point. Are you seriously in doubt of this?
Show proof that this happened, objective evidence...and NOT subjective quotes from the bible
I'm sure that old technology was looking that way simply because of overlap. I agree with Pye they did it to just get rid of him. And I understand why, he was asking them to check if its alien, and the technology would not allow it. But they didn't want to lose a customer right? Why would you say Pye is a crook, do you know something we don't? No lab 424 proved it to be alien, you need to watch the more current video.
That proves we have common ancestors if you go back far enough. As for that skull, until that crook Pye allows peer reviews of his findings, and officially publishes the study instead of just making claims on his blog-like website and in his books, claiming it's only 50% human is beyond crazy. Especially given Yale University as well as Trace both found out that both DNA, and mDNA is 100% human. Pye CLAIMS that's not the case, but hasn't presented any proof...just like guys selling snake oil as "healing potion"
The main issue is, you haven't presented any credible evidence of intervention, and neither has Pye. He did 2 studies from independent 3rd party organizations, and both attested that that skull is 100% human and simply a poor kid who suffered from hydrocephalus. His other claims are 100% worthless until he presents his SOURCED data, which he hasn't. For 2 years, he's claimed his source is in the process of publishing the data...we're still waiting. Meanwhile, he continues to make claims that don't agree with peer reviewed data.
If you want to believe in a snake-oil salesman, be my guest, but please stop dumbing down other people on this forum
Also, in case you bother looking at facts, here's a link explaining common descent. Saying DNA doesn't support it is beyond nonsense