Originally posted by colin42
I am not asking how life started just an explanation of the diversity of life from the deep dark depths of the oceans to the blue skies above and pole
When ever I run into an "evolutionist", I ask which kind do they believe in - Micro or Macro and usually I get a dumb look on their face. Apparently
most are taught that they are one in the same.
Most people who are Creationist Christians do not deny the existence of micro-evolution, that is, "evolution" within a species. A good example would
be dogs, which have various breeds, but all had came from the same parent canine. Another example; Bacterium and Virii participate in this micro
evolution on a substantially accelerated scale, but in the end they are still Bacterium and Virii.
What creationists have a problem with is species 'creating' Macro-Evolution, in which one species jumps into a completely different species. This is
where the "missing-link" touted by those that believe in macro evolution fail to deliver, not only in the fossil record but present day where
transitional jumps should be observed by a plethora of species. Transitional jumps should be all over the geologic record, from hybrid species to
failed transitions for ALL aspects of life.
Micro evolution does not violate Genesis 1:11-25 in which God made life to perpetuate itself after its own kind. In fact, Genesis 1:11-25 is a
general statement on micro evolution long before Darwin was even an itch in his great great great grand daddies loins. I would question would did
Moses know about micro-evolution when the concept was not formulated until the 20th century, but I digress.
I would like an explanation of the fossil records but it is not essential.
Age of the Earth and Geological stratum is inconsequential to the evolution/creation debate.
First, fossil record dating is entirely dependent on the assumption that radioactive decay has been constant. However, there is no way to empirically
measure how fast radioactive decay was a million years ago, or really, any decay up until the 20th century. There are issues with various forms of
decay based dating, and many assumptions take place in that process. In fact, we have no observed evidence for what the Universe was like Pre-Curse.
Every observation we have today is based off the Post-Curse world.
Instead in regards to geological strata, you get the argument in which X fossil found at X depth must be X time, because at X depth X fossil must be X
years old. It's a circular logic. Example, Paleontologists will say the Dinosaurs are X old due to the stratum that they are found in, and the
geologists will say the stratum X old because the dinosaurs were found in it.
Second, if the Earth is more than ~10,000 years old we do not know certain things from a Biblical perspective.
1.) How long did Adam and Eve spend in the Garden of Eden, a day, centuries, millions to billions of years? The Bible does not state how long, as
it's focus throughout it's 66 books is on the redemption of man. Yeshua stated "the volume of the book is written of me", not geologic history.
2.) Even if the Earth is only ~ 10,000 years old, there is the Gap Theory of Gen 1:1-2, that could explain "age" of the universe, but not life. Life
found on Earth was created only after the Gap Theory would have taken place.
Just like issues with decay based dating, there are also assumptions on the age of the Earth that simply are not present in the Bible. Adam's age of
930 years simply is an unknown where Moses began to count his years -- after or before the fall.
In summary, Micro-Evolution is indeed a valid measurement of change with in the species, that does not violate biblical scripture. However,
Micro-Evolution does not prove Macro-Evolution. When you assume that Macro evolution exists, because Micro evolution is observed you are
participating in an argument known as fallacy of division. Geologic strata and fossil records are simply not conclusive proof.
What I find it sad is that YHWY in the Bible was very offended when people would ascribe creation to false gods and idols made with human hands. Yet
today, we have found something even more offensive, in which creation and life is attributed to nothing.
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