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GENESIS 1:29 "Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
GENESIS 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
Leviticus 11:1-47 And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth. Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless, among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. ...
Psalm 104:14 You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth
Evolution has already been proved wrong by creationists time and time again.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ
I'm glad to see that your admiting that it proves evolution wrong.
Welcome to tooth's fantasy ride, where everything's upside down, pigs fly, target food rains from the sky, chickens are already roast and doing the moonwalk, and giraffes drink milkshakes through giant straws.
If you wanna argue against tooth, just make up some random word and definition that debunks his claim. Here, I'll show you:
Target food isn't a requirement for evolution because they beings on this planet including humans only require type-3b target food, which includes everything that is even remotely eatable. So you see, target food isn't necessary because of my made up word and definition.
It's a BRILLIANT way to argue. Think you're behind and losing the argument? Don't worry, just make something up
Like your friends Mum that smoked during pregnancy you keep going on about. Your answer sums you up nicely. You will agree with whatever serves your argument best and will deny the very same thing when it does not
Depends on how you look at it. If your question here is if cigarettes can be sexy grown up and good for you, they are probably telling the truth in some sense. I know a lot of people that need to smoke because they feel the need to. It makes them feel better when they do.
What? Do you ever know what you are relying too?
This obviously is just your biased opinion, and you obviously don't smoke.
Proof would be nice over your opinion.
And after giving me some random answer then telling me it is not about my opinion you give me your opinion.
But the fact is they sell them as a balanced system, so you are wrong.
Pinocchio. There is either balance or there is not. You have been proven wrong again and you resort to lies again.
Your bickering about how much of a balance it is. They never said it was a perfect balance, get over it and move on.
To quote you. This is not about your opinion. Supply the evidence that you never seem able too.
This is why your failing so bad in understanding all this. Balance is possible, except that our planet is not pristine. Your making an assumption that our planet is in its normal order and its pristine, when its not.
Oh I can see that and doing it in your usual dishonest fashion with lies and avoidance. Your refusal to supply the source to you definition is just the latest of a long line of deception and lies. Your god will be proud of you.
Duh, I am supporting my own views.
Worse than that. I asked for a link to his source 8 times and now he suddenly cannot post a link to anything other than google front page.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Duh, I am supporting my own views.
Oh, nobody's doubting that you support your own views...you just chose not to support them through logic and rationality, that's all
You did not bother to read the OP either then? This thread is meant to be about those that say evolution is wrong to explain the diversity we see around us today without referring to evolution. I expect you to do the same as all the others that bluster in. Refuse to discuss the thread topic or the pick up their gauntlets and back away.
Evolutionists are careful to keep the debate within a defined box, but I defy the box. The behavior of evolutionists in this forum indicated just what kind of people they really are.
There - the gauntlet is thrown down.
Originally posted by Connector
reply to post by Lazarus Short
Evolution has already been proved wrong by creationists time and time again.
Links please.
Originally posted by colin42
reply to post by Lazarus Short
You did not bother to read the OP either then? This thread is meant to be about those that say evolution is wrong to explain the diversity we see around us today without referring to evolution. I expect you to do the same as all the others that bluster in. Refuse to discuss the thread topic or the pick up their gauntlets and back away.
Evolutionists are careful to keep the debate within a defined box, but I defy the box. The behavior of evolutionists in this forum indicated just what kind of people they really are.
There - the gauntlet is thrown down.
Originally posted by Lazarus Short
Originally posted by Connector
reply to post by Lazarus Short
Evolution has already been proved wrong by creationists time and time again.
Links please.
Did you not read my whole post? I'm not stepping into that trap. I will not argue the evidence with you. I'm here to hold a mirror up to certain attitudes. Have fun at someone else's expense.
Thats pretty good except you forgot a major part. Where it says that out of all of the things that he has supplied us with, none of them are from or resemble what we have in heavan.
We all know the bible is completely true, so why would God name multiple food sources, but not our target food? Is he just trying to mess with our heads? Oh ya...there is no thing such as targetfood. It's a made up phrase....nevermind.
Your just trying to say that I stick by my belief, and who doesn't?
Like your friends Mum that smoked during pregnancy you keep going on about. Your answer sums you up nicely. You will agree with whatever serves your argument best and will deny the very same thing when it does not
It's not an opinion, its a fact that they are still selling them.
But the fact is they sell them as a balanced system, so you are wrong.
And after giving me some random answer then telling me it is not about my opinion you give me your opinion.
The shrimp is able to live an extended life based on what he would have lived without the algee, so you are WRONG.
Your bickering about how much of a balance it is. They never said it was a perfect balance, get over it and move on.
Pinocchio. There is either balance or there is not. You have been proven wrong again and you resort to lies again.
Well its all throughout the bible, like parts that connector just posted is a good start. Brining life from another planet will surley knock off the planets balance.
This is why your failing so bad in understanding all this. Balance is possible, except that our planet is not pristine. Your making an assumption that our planet is in its normal order and its pristine, when its not.
To quote you. This is not about your opinion. Supply the evidence that you never seem able too.
Your basing calling me a liar off of your opinion. You have never proven we are actually from earth, and there is very little to nothing that supports the idea aside from the fact that we breath air, and drink water.
Duh, I am supporting my own views.
Oh I can see that and doing it in your usual dishonest fashion with lies and avoidance. Your refusal to supply the source to you definition is just the latest of a long line of deception and lies. Your god will be proud of you
Originally posted by Lazarus Short
Originally posted by Connector
reply to post by Lazarus Short
Evolution has already been proved wrong by creationists time and time again.
Links please.
Did you not read my whole post? I'm not stepping into that trap. I will not argue the evidence with you. I'm here to hold a mirror up to certain attitudes. Have fun at someone else's expense.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by colin42
Oh well then here it is again.
www.google.com...=en&q=natural&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=ZWz4T6KBJsrArQHH87WLCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CFcQkQ4&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=3ddc6ee 7f452a242&biw=1115&bih=541
There is the link, all you have to do is click on it.
Your just trying to say that I stick by my belief, and who doesn't?
Originally posted by colin42
reply to post by itsthetooth
How fake are you? You offered the 'fish and plant in a sealed globe' as an example of a balanced system. Maintained the proof was the manufacturer said so. I spent pages showing you how wrong you were and now you try that full on lie above. You have no pride, self respect or any concept of honesty.
What followed was your usual trash opinion no reason to reply.
Originally posted by idmonster
reply to post by mastermindkar
Little bit of info...
As I write this, I am playing catch up on the thread, currently on 447 and I see a pattern. Be interested to see if this pans out the same.
Newcomer to thread (welcome sir/madam mastermindkar) attempts to educate tooth as to the faulty reasoning in his argument.
Newcomer remains polite and offer logical argument against tooths points.
Tooth attempts to explain by offering his made up terms of "target food", "redundant adaptation" and his misunderstanding of the words natural, evolution and relationship.
Newcomer counters tooths points pointing out examples and research articles in the relevant subject fields.
Tooth changes his definition and accuses newcomer of making assumptions.
Newcomer becomes absolutely astounded at the level of denial and ignorance displayed and goes into shock.
Tooth claims no one (including newcomer) has has offered any argument to prove his delusion false.
Any way, just getting to the bottom of page 447 so will find out if this holds true or not.
Welcome to the madhouse, enjoy the ride. Be prepared to stay only as long as it amuses you.
Don’t keep trying to tell me what I am saying. Read what I wrote and answer that.
Your just trying to say that I stick by my belief, and who doesn't?
They may be selling them but they are not selling 'sealed balanced eco systems in a globe' just as tobacco companies are still selling cigarettes that are not good for you.
It's not an opinion, its a fact that they are still selling them.
(Algae not algee) Borderline genius, are you sure? So it is a balanced eco system if it allows a shrimp to poison itself in its own excrement and to starve to death in 18 months when it could normally be expected to live 20 years. But if you starve it to death over a shorter period it would not be in balance?
The shrimp is able to live an extended life based on what he would have lived without the algee, so you are WRONG.
(it’s not its and surely not surley and bringing not brining) The parts posted by connector actually points too your creator providing a wide choice of food blowing your nonsense target food out of the water.
Well its all throughout the bible, like parts that connector just posted is a good start. Brining life from another planet will surley knock off the planets balance.
Nope. From your actions on this thread and indeed your statement above. You even refuse to explain why you implied you provided the shrimp in a sealed globe to prove to me balance was not possible.
Your basing calling me a liar off of your opinion.
I don’t have too. Carl Sagan wrote. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.' You are making the extraordinary claims yet you have no evidence at all.
You have never proven we are actually from earth,
If you think that qualifies as 'the extraordinary evidence' I say again. Borderline genius indeed.
and there is very little to nothing that supports the idea aside from the fact that we breath air, and drink water.