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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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I still don't understand. Lets say Im an iguana. I like eating plants and stuff. Then one day I'm on a grassy patch with a couple of my buddies near the ocean, it breaks off and I'm sent off into the ocean. After a couple of hours my grassy patch washes up on a island. The plants and stuff that I like to eat are non-existent. I see a couple of my buddies eat some plants, and they end up dead. Then its just me and a couple of other iguanas left. We get desperate and decide to look into the ocean for food. We realize we are really bad at swimming, some of us drown, but we managed to get some plant food fairly close to shore. Over time we make babies and create new generations who have to continually go farther and farther out to get the plant food. Over time we make adaptations and evolve to be better swimmers. Now the iguana has changed, evolved, and all it took was the environment and the individual. No bug necessary. I don't see how there has to be something to "hide the bodies" since nature does a pretty good job destroying the bones and any evidence of them, of course on the odd occasion when they end up as fossils.
If this were how things work, why is it that the ant eater hasn't evolved away from eating ants? I mean there is no question he was made to eat ants, and you can't argue that he evolved into eathing ants, what did we evolve into eating? Cows milk? Processed food.


Hasn't evolved from not eating ants cause he hasn't had to. We evolved into eating all different types of foods, because we can travel to any place in the world, we can even make our own foods.




posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 08:35 PM
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Hasn't evolved from not eating ants cause he hasn't had to. We evolved into eating all different types of foods, because we can travel to any place in the world, we can even make our own foods.
So are you saying that because of our ability to travel, we evolved away from our diet? Well cool, then we should have no problem knowing what it is exactly we are suppose to be eating seeing how this was all just a locaiton issue.

So where are we suppose to live, and what are we suppose to eat?



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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Everything that we have been eating.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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It's surprisingly easy to live in trees, and we are very good hunters. We are an aquatic ape in that we can swim and catch fish for consumption. We can use caves and other natural formations for shelter during winter. Stop acting like we'd just die without civilization. You're such an uneducated child.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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Wow, you really love using your imagination to come up with imaginary numbers to make everything feel better in your mind. Just give up man. Your selective reading, downright twisting of facts, and blatant lies are getting ridiculous.
Well varemia you wouldn't know anything about these numbers as you believe we are on our home planet to begin with.


Dude, you literally just looked at the number, said, "Nah, my number sounds better to me," and then moved on! What the hell!? You can't just make stuff up and pretend it's fact. At least back up your stories with something.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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Are you saying physically sick? are you personally sick? Id say there are probably 3 billion humans that are lively alive right now, in good health, enjoyment, doing there thing.
Neither, according to doctors, wiki statistcs, pharmacys and the fact that we depend on insurance, we are sick, and diseased.

And again all that bullshine above is according to toothe the liar as he has nothing to back up what he says.

He says according to doctors and wiki statistics but cannot offer one that backs this up. Before old fork tongue says anyyhing more. A link to a list of illnesses is not data backing up you halfwitted nonsense.

BTW your avoidance of the ant v human is that of a baby. But if you will not discuss I will point out every lie you tell.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:03 PM
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Below is the post you say you replied to but did not. As is usual another lie by you. Dismissive unbacked comments you make up are not acceptable as is your dishonesty. Try again lump
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As I said dismissive, discourteous and ignorant refusal to offer any reasoned reply.


1. Build homes to live and would likely perish during harsh weather without them.
2. We live in almost every place on earth
3. We have a structured society
4. We farm and grow plants. Ants farm and grow fungi
5. We farm other animals for our own needs
6. We milk cows. Ants milk Aphids. We dont need too to survive we do so for convienience
7. We both have a wide range of food and both hunt and scavenge
8. Both go to war and have specialised units for that job (army).
9. We both use highways to move foraged and grown food to our cities, homes nests.
10. Process food. (see leafcutter ants vid in link 'farming ants')
11. OMG. New to me. Both ants and humans use antibiotics. See link for info
12. How could I have forgot. We both have a very wide range of foods that we incorperate into our diet.



1. As does most other species.
Name any that build with the complexity of humans and ants. That incorperate sewers, drainage, nurseries, utility rooms. I'll give you bees. Now list 6 more.


2. As does a high percentage of other species.
so what other animals thrive in temperate, hot cold jungle and deserts. Name a few.


3. As do most species.
Name me some other species that have workers, guards, farmers, nurses, teachers, waste management, recyclers, builders, soldiers.


4. As do a lot of other species.
Name those farmers


5. As does many other species.
Name those livestock farmers


6. I'm sure a lot of other species milk a lot of things out of convienience, but I think our is out of necessity.
You think does not count. Name those other species that farm and milk other animals


7. There are many species that do the same thing.
Yep so by your criteria they also do not have a target food. I will get round to them but we are talking ants and humans for now.


8. As do most species.
Name a few that form armies for the purpose of war to extend teritory and capture others resources. That enslave captured combatants.


9. As most species do as well.
Name a few


10. Nothing processes food in the way or the extreme that humans do.
Did you even go to the link I provided? Did you even look at the clip I pointed out? Leafcutter ants go to great extremes to process leaves that would poison other animals.


11. as does some other species.
Name them species


12. there are other species that are scavangers too.
That scavenge hunt and farm? Really.

So yet again you have refused to set out a reasoned argument and just responded with off the cuff comment dragged up out of ignorance. Your really have no idea of how discussion works do you.


Because there isn't anything that shows they don't fit in.
And neither is there anything that shows man does not fit in and you show by this response that you cannot find any either. Confronted by the ant you have no answers at all. The ant fits ALLyour criteria for not being from this planet and yet you insist they are. The ant shows you are wrong and you intention to not even consider them shows your intentions to remain ignorant.
Me


You seem unable to be able to explain anything. 'Could explain it' does not explain it. Explain autosomal dominance and its role in allowing the bushman to live past puberty without the medical intervention that you maintain is not possible.
You:


I'm not going to provide you with a history lesson on DNA. You will have to look it up yourself.
You offered autosomal dominance as a reason to explain the continued existence of the bushman. It is up to you to explain the part you believe it plays and for me to challenge or accept it once you have.

I believe you have seen a phrase you do not understand and have used it as an escape run. I have looked up its meaning and what it explains. Your refesal to offer an explanation confirms my suspicission has foundation. You are a lying fraud and you will remain so until you either go or begin to discuss.



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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:12 PM
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Everything that we have been eating.


I see.

So let me get this straight. You believe that we are eating the food we are supposed to be eating. Well Ander this is going to come as quite a shock to you, but there isn't one shred of evidence that supports that theory. There are however mountains of proof that suggest otherwise. Here are some links that will clear it up.

www.webmd.com...
www.freetrainers.com...
www.supersup.com...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
www.pcrichard.com...
www.lg.com...|14108|LG%20refrigerator||S|b|9667107438
www.dairycouncilofca.org...
www.yourfoodstorage.com...
water.epa.gov...
www.google.com... ih=501

Now this is just a handfull but if I was to guess, I wouldn't have any problem coming up with about 10 times as many. Now of them are repeat sites either. Your telling me we evolved, into what we are now, and now I want to know why. Was it easier? Because you can plainly see that its not. Because its better, again you can see that it's not. I want to know why we would evolve into what we are now, to take on a burden of problems that we face day to day.

I didn't even go over the medical differences but thats another chapter. Our medical situation is so drastic that we actually have to have doctors, and get vaccines, and we get thousands more illnesses and sickness.

So please tell me, does it really look like we evolved?



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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It's surprisingly easy to live in trees, and we are very good hunters. We are an aquatic ape in that we can swim and catch fish for consumption. We can use caves and other natural formations for shelter during winter. Stop acting like we'd just die without civilization. You're such an uneducated child.
Well we surley wouldn't die, we are to crafty. But tell me, if it was such a fitting lifestyle why did we leave it?



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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Dude, you literally just looked at the number, said, "Nah, my number sounds better to me," and then moved on! What the hell!? You can't just make stuff up and pretend it's fact. At least back up your stories with something.
Actually it was a shared guess. I asked other people, and it was in the ballpark of what everyone else guessed.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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And again all that bullshine above is according to toothe the liar as he has nothing to back up what he says.

He says according to doctors and wiki statistics but cannot offer one that backs this up. Before old fork tongue says anyyhing more. A link to a list of illnesses is not data backing up you halfwitted nonsense.

BTW your avoidance of the ant v human is that of a baby. But if you will not discuss I will point out every lie you tell.
No actually these came straight from doctors, but I forgot that Dr Colin doesn't agree with the other doctors and would do everything to put them out of business, as we honeslty don't need them.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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If this were how things work, why is it that the ant eater hasn't evolved away from eating ants? I mean there is no question he was made to eat ants, and you can't argue that he evolved into eathing ants, what did we evolve into eating? Cows milk? Processed food.
You have the cheek to bring this garbage up again? You will not discuss ants because they prove you wrong but continually bring up the ant eater because you believe it proves you correct based on your plainy moronic 'target food'. The true mark of a liar.

And cows milk again because you cannot answer the points made by andersen. Your shameless. Do you realise others read your replies? Soon when telling someone they are not telling the truth they will say 'stop telling tooths'


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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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Well we surley wouldn't die, we are to crafty. But tell me, if it was such a fitting lifestyle why did we leave it?
Because there was this one idiot monkey in a tree shouting constantly about where is his target food. Every other primate had enough and packed their bags



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by Varemia
 





It's surprisingly easy to live in trees, and we are very good hunters. We are an aquatic ape in that we can swim and catch fish for consumption. We can use caves and other natural formations for shelter during winter. Stop acting like we'd just die without civilization. You're such an uneducated child.
Well we surley wouldn't die, we are to crafty. But tell me, if it was such a fitting lifestyle why did we leave it?


Fitting is not the same as fun and comfortable. Are you really this dense?



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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No actually these came straight from doctors, but I forgot that Dr Colin doesn't agree with the other doctors and would do everything to put them out of business, as we honeslty don't need them.
What doctors. Links please. If your refering to what your doctor said it does not count because.
1. You would only have heard what you wanted to hear in the same way you read
2. Your doctor is likely a psychiatrist not a medical dotor so does not count.

So again stop telling tooths. Back up what you say just as you demand from others.
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Actually it was a shared guess. I asked other people, and it was in the ballpark of what everyone else guessed.
You mean there is a group of you all telling tooths?


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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by andersensrm
 





Everything that we have been eating.


I see.

So let me get this straight. You believe that we are eating the food we are supposed to be eating. Well Ander this is going to come as quite a shock to you, but there isn't one shred of evidence that supports that theory. There are however mountains of proof that suggest otherwise. Here are some links that will clear it up.

www.webmd.com...
www.freetrainers.com...
www.supersup.com...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
www.pcrichard.com...
www.lg.com...|14108|LG%20refrigerator||S|b|9667107438
www.dairycouncilofca.org...
www.yourfoodstorage.com...
water.epa.gov...
www.google.com... ih=501

Now this is just a handfull but if I was to guess, I wouldn't have any problem coming up with about 10 times as many. Now of them are repeat sites either. Your telling me we evolved, into what we are now, and now I want to know why. Was it easier? Because you can plainly see that its not. Because its better, again you can see that it's not. I want to know why we would evolve into what we are now, to take on a burden of problems that we face day to day.

I didn't even go over the medical differences but thats another chapter. Our medical situation is so drastic that we actually have to have doctors, and get vaccines, and we get thousands more illnesses and sickness.

So please tell me, does it really look like we evolved?


did you just suggest living in a cave is better more comfortable than living in a house? and did you just say relocating 100miles is easier to do by foot than by vehicle?

we evolved to use more of our brain which helped us make life easier and more efficient. listing weight lost sites only proves that we have been so good at it we have become lazy.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:36 PM
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You have the cheek to bring this garbage up again? You will not discuss ants because they prove you wrong but continually bring up the ant eater because you believe it proves you correct based on your plainy moronic 'target food'. The true mark of a liar.
What are you talking about Dr Colin. The Ant deal I layed you to rest with.
We share no unique qualities with ants.
Now you can pretend all you want and you can try to find things that aren't there (just like you do with evolution) but the bottom line is they are just like the rest of the species here on earth. Nothing special as far as uniquness to humans.

And why am I called the liar everytime YOU decide to lie? I see a pattern here.




And cows milk again because you cannot answer the points made by andersen. Your shameless. Do you realise others read your replies? Soon when telling someone they are not telling the truth they will say 'stop telling tooths
Well as far as I know I answered his question. I dunno, Ander did I not answer your question?



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Because there was this one idiot monkey in a tree shouting constantly about where is his target food. Every other primate had enough and packed their bags
Monkeys that pack bags, well I can now better understand why you have such an idiotic imagination.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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Fitting is not the same as fun and comfortable. Are you really this dense?
I see, so you think that processing food and water, and slaving 8 hours a day in a job so that others can eat processed meat is fun and comfortable.

Well I can only guess what the real reasons are.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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What are you talking about Dr Colin. The Ant deal I layed you to rest with.
'Layed' me to rest by the answers you gave in the post above. You do know toothing to me about your answers is only toothing to yourself just as you did when you told people that you were a science master.

But lets give you the benifit of the doubt. If you laid me to rest with those answers it should be easy for you to bury me by answering those above. Try it.


We share no unique qualities with ants.
I show in the post above we do. You saying there are no unique simularities does not cut it. Surely a science master, A professor should know that?


Now you can pretend all you want and you can try to find things that aren't there (just like you do with evolution) but the bottom line is they are just like the rest of the species here on earth. Nothing special as far as uniquness to humans.
The floor is open professor. Prove it with a reasoned argument that does not consist of your imaginings and is backed up just the way I did with ants.



And why am I called the liar everytime YOU decide to lie? I see a pattern here.
Because you lie every time. You even lie to yourself by saying I am the liar. I doubt you could see a pattern anywhere. That would take a cognative skill that you plainly do not pocess.


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