Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by micmerci
I have a question for the pro evolutionist. I think that mathematically speaking, the population of the earth would be far greater than 7 billion if man has been here reproducing as long as the theory of evolution claims we have. Can someone validate/refute this mathematically?

just like i posted below. where are the billions of "man" bones that should litter the planet with each step of evolution?

before i can answer this question my friend you must first prove that ancient humans in fact had bones.

I believe in evolution. But I also believe in Creation. I think life evolves in the same way machines evolve. There's a feedback process going on which allows the designer to improve on his last effort and adapt to new obstacles.

I think its interesting that people will beleive fully in either of the options.

What is there to say that it wasn't both?

In hinduism, for example, the cosmos is considered to be just the dream of a god, which makes everything in the cosmos a creation of this god. This does not discount evolution at all, and still means we were created by a god.

Even from a christian perspective it can be argued that god created evolution to further enhance life and make the world a bit more interesting. The biggest problem with the abrahamic view on the subject is that in their pseudoscience the earth is only around 5700 years old. Which I can not, as a rational and cognitive being, accept. God putting fossils and other contrary proof on earth to "test our faith" is not an acceptable answer to this.

You can also look at it from a different point of view. Humans are of a higher consciousness than dogs, and we have purposefuly altered dogs. This means that the evolution of dogs has been guided by a higher consciousness, us.
Who is there to say that there was never a higher form of life than humans that had a hand in turning us into what we are now; either terrestrial, extra terrestrial or inter dimensional?

Pro evolutionists still resisting comments?

Originally posted by micmerci
Pro evolutionists still resisting comments?

Yes it very un natural but stop goading us.

Originally posted by micmerci
I have a question for the pro evolutionist. I think that mathematically speaking, the population of the earth would be far greater than 7 billion if man has been here reproducing as long as the theory of evolution claims we have. Can someone validate/refute this mathematically?

Do you understand anything about the history of agrarianism, city states, or the effect of weather variations on human evolution? That's your answer in a nutshell. Pick up a copy of "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond - everything is explained quite well in his book.

oh I believe in evolution, just not the kind of evolution most people believe in.

-your title is misleading/ambiguous

With all due respect, I posed a question that potentially could go against evolution theory and have still not received an answer. I was asked a question in response and was suggested some additional reading that would answer my question. But I have not received an answer.

Your welcome. He explains it way better than I ever could, but in a nutshell, he basically explains how the anthropological record shows that until man discovered the art of agrarianism (the cultivation of wild plants for mass food production purposes) human population centers remained tiny and fragmented. Places where agrarianism never developed remained that way almost up until modern times too (New Guinea, Australia, South America etc).

Originally posted by fedeykin
I think its interesting that people will beleive fully in either of the options.

What is there to say that it wasn't both?

This is the most intelligent quote on this thread yet.