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Originally posted by colin42
reply to post by Connector
I cannot lend you a hand. I do have my ape brother play soothing music in the background and every now and then he gives me a hug.
He says 'whoop, pip, click grunt' but I know he means 'that is what families for'.
Idmonster
Your mascot gets my vote
edit on 15-1-2012 by colin42 because: Idmonster
Come on now...don't be coy.....
Cool, I'm making progress.
See what I did there
Ya know...I'm starting to think that itsthetooth maybe unto something here because I really do feel like I'm observing an alien life force whenever I read one of his replies....oh well keep the hilarity rolling
It is the first that comes to mind.
Really, your only understanding of "environment" is weather?
What is evolutionism?
Seriously, i'd like a reply. I think the only way that we are going to get a thorough understanding is for you to explain what you think evolution is. Using the term "evolutionism" when doing your "reasearch" is possibly taking you to some very unreliable web sites. (you are aware, i assume that anyone can edit wiki references, I for example might pop over to the entry for "the bible" and edit the page to start" This is a work of fiction, any resembalnce to person livking or dead.....etc" you get the drift.
So you say not wearing shoes in your area would make your feet drop off and I explain that the invention of shoes enabled us to live in your area you come to the conclussion that means I am saying we can control the weather????
And that was an answer too???????
Still far superior to your debating skills no matter how bad I failed.
Confirmation you do not have a clue what you are building your fantasy around do you.
In other words the evolution bug was smart enough to know that it could make us smart enough to make shoes to venture out of our comfort zone. I'm sorry man, I'm not feeling the evolution bug.
Especially when you refuse to look
Evolution being something that you cant see.
What a disgusting admission on a forum meant for debate. So you sit back and demand links which you do not read, claim they show nothing and demand more links. Troll.
Actually I haven't debated too much, just pointed out what the links I was sent to told me, that other people seem to be overlooking.
Seeing as though I am waiting and have been waiting since around page 60 for you to respond to many more questions than one I will answer yours when you decided to take part in this debate instead of taking on the role of troll.
And I like now how for the 5th time I have waited for a reply on flagellum, and you sidestep an answer every chance you get. It's ok I didn't expect an answer seeing how this bug has creation written all over it and your speechless about it.
Originally posted by Quadrivium
reply to post by Barcs
Mostly I disagree with the assumptions the "theory" makes about early life, the origins of life and groups of animals evolving into entirely different groups of animals.
I also think of genetic mutations in a slightly different way as many.
There are mostly two types of mutations, yes? Those that help and those that hinder.
Much reading has brought me to the simple conclusion as follows.....
The mutations that hinder are cause by the DNA sequence being changed by outside influences such as desiese, viruses, chemicals, radiation, DNA replication errors, exc. These are involuntary.
The mutations that help are the bodies reaction to changes in environment or competition. These are voluntary.
Quad
Well I wasn't building anything around evolution, it appears thats allready been done.
Confirmation you do not have a clue what you are building your fantasy around do you.
Especially when you refuse to look
What a disgusting admission on a forum meant for debate. So you sit back and demand links which you do not read, claim they show nothing and demand more links. Troll.
Seeing as though I am waiting and have been waiting since around page 60 for you to respond to many more questions than one I will answer yours when you decided to take part in this debate instead of taking on the role of troll.
I have told you before but your reading skills and contact with reality may mean you need reminding. I am not dancing to your tune. We either dance together or not at all.
Mostly I disagree with the assumptions the "theory" makes about early life, the origins of life and groups of animals evolving into entirely different groups of animals.
I also think of genetic mutations in a slightly different way as many.
There are mostly two types of mutations, yes? Those that help and those that hinder.
Much reading has brought me to the simple conclusion as follows.....
Ya know...I'm starting to think that itsthetooth maybe unto something here because I really do feel like I'm observing an alien life force whenever I read one of his replies....oh well keep the hilarity rolling.
Come on now...don't be coy.....
Well I wasn't building anything around evolution, it appears thats allready been done.
Your dishonesty is why people do not wish to enter into debate with you. You have even admitted you have debated very little. Shameful
I have looked everywhere. Unless your holding onto some little secret, no one has been able to provide me with anything that says otherwise.
If that were true then why are you constantly being acused of never responding to anything in those links by those you duped into providing you. Dishonest and untrustworthy.
Who said I don't read them. How could I possibly copy and past parts tellng me they are fake unless I read them.
The answer I gave you was not wrong as others pointed out. You ruled it out becuse it showed you wrong. Just as you rule out or change the goal posts on anything that shows you wrong and in almost every post you are shown to be very, very wrong.
Well then you must be the master of trolls, because it occurs to me that the only thing you ever answered in my questions was about a species that depends on man, and that wasn't even answered right, so then all you do is complain like it was. You make your own rules, you don't answer questions, then turn around and call me the troll. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.
Originally posted by Quadrivium
reply to post by SplitInfinity
Split,
I know what evolution is.
But I don't take it past the point of adaptation.
Let's take origins out of the picture for a moment.
So, at some point in history, we have different groups of animals on the earth, as they spread out and compete, they adapt.
Yes, that's part of the "theory" but to me that's just adaptation. I drop all of the assumptions associated with the "theory".
You mentioned sharks and crocs. They has been basically the same since they showed up in the fossil record. They might have moved and adapted, creating knew species of crocs and sharks but using the "theory", from what did they evolve?
All life on earth have basically the same building blocks, DNA.
You might say that proves evolution true, it shows we all came from LUCA.
But I say it is because we were all Created using the same building blocks, language or DNA also know as DNA.
Quad
Again. Your reading skill and ability to understand what is written is shown by you to be below the average IQ because yet again you have not replied to the point made. Pathetic.
Your dishonesty is why people do not wish to enter into debate with you. You have even admitted you have debated very little. Shameful
If that were true then why are you constantly being acused of never responding to anything in those links by those you duped into providing you. Dishonest and untrustworthy.
The answer I gave you was not wrong as others pointed out. You ruled it out becuse it showed you wrong. Just as you rule out or change the goal posts on anything that shows you wrong and in almost every post you are shown to be very, very wrong.
I very much doubt you have the intelligence for anything to occur to you and for it to have any connection with reality or based on any evidence if you somehow fluked it.
I just have one question for you, and it is relevant because it will explain a little bit of how your mind works.
Why do you trust the sources you use for your information?
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by colin42
I'm still looking for anything that has a natural bond out of necessety with man. From birth to death, not something that many invokes like a dog
Whats so special about man? Give us an example of any animal to animal " bond" of the type your refering to so we have a reference.
Part of the problem is your constantly asking for "proof" without clearly defining what you would accept as proof.
p.s. before you say anteater:
The giant anteater's diet consists mainly of ground-dwelling ants, although it will occasionally eat termites and army ants. The anteater's acute sense of smell detects the ants. Its long claws are used to get into the nests. It catches the ants with its long, sticky tongue. It gets most of the moisture it needs from its food, which includes fruit and larvae.
From www.wonderclub.com...fruit