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Can you prove evolution wrong?*

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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy
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which claims are you talking about please quote or rather yet just show me why you think they were saying something else. What do you think they mean by "those who from heaven came to earth"?


Christians speak of heaven too...doesn't mean it exists


That's the whole point, you merely know what people back then BELIEVED based on their limited knowledge. The Mayans believed Cortes was a god too, doesn't mean he was


I think you're confusing objective evidence with subjective evidence...the latter is clearly not reliable




posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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No, Pye didn't share any real data...all he did was make random claims and then asked you to believe him even without proper data...the same I'm doing here. Glad you believe him though, and glad you also believe in my giant unicorns
k if he didn't share his data, what exactly did he share?



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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No, Pye didn't share any real data...all he did was make random claims and then asked you to believe him even without proper data...the same I'm doing here. Glad you believe him though, and glad you also believe in my giant unicorns
k if he didn't share his data, what exactly did he share?


Fiction?



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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If it's released, then please present me a copy of the scientific research papers on the skull verified by a lab.
Have you ever thought about just sending him an email and asking?




Lol. You really just like to make stuff up. Interpretation has nothing to do with whether something is subjective or objective. Objective evidence is based on facts and can be verified and examined for yourself. Subjective is based on lack of understanding, story books, or anything else that can't be duplicated and verified (ex the complexity of nature, humans don't belong because of disease, etc).
So I said it right. It's subjective if you read it wrong. I think your reading it wrong.




That's the great thing about science. If you don't believe an experiment you can do it yourself and see what happens. Scientific results are not subjective. Pye or Bible stories are not objective until Pye provides the scientific data, which he hasn't.
What you mean to say is no one has proven him wrong or taken the steps to challenge his findings. And again, your welcome to anytime. Everyone wants to squak there box about how he is wrong but no one is providing any proof of it.




Um, in science it does.
What I mean is I doubt if that alone determins authenticity, or the lack of. In other words just because its not peer reviewed doesn't automatically mean its false.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Well, based on some of our reality TV programs I don't blame you for thinking we devolved.
I hear ya. Some of them are pretty sad for sure, which one you watching?



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Evolution isn't goal-driven. We adapted a big brain for a reason; what we do with it is up to us, not evolution. We're not the only ones. Chimps have been known to exterminate each other. Spider monkeys. Ants (which have the largest brain in proportion to size).

Again, we're not special in this
Hey I challenge the proportion thing by comparison. Is there a site you found about this?



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Fiction?
So all he shared was the word fiction and you are contesting this?



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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This site might interest you. Here's a short excerpt:


A chimp breaks off a long grass stalk or a reed so she may use it later, hundreds of meters away, more than an hour in the future, to lure delectable termites out of a log or termite mound. She must remove superfluous leaves and twigs, shape it, shorten it, insert it into the termite tunnel with a deft twisting motion to follow the interior contours, shake it seductively to attract termites onto it, and then with great care remove it without scraping off too many. Chimps take years to perfect their technique and routinely teach it to their young, who are avid pupils. This exactly satisfies one confident definition of "the uniqueness of man's toolmaking"-namely, "the fashioning, out of natural materials, of an implement designed to be used at a distant time and on objects not now perceptually present."


www.mesacc.edu...



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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Fiction?
So all he shared was the word fiction and you are contesting this?


No...all his claims are fiction because he never bothered to back them up with facts and objective evidence


And if something is not backed up by evidence, it's fiction...made up...a "nice story".



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by HappyBunny
Evolution isn't goal-driven. We adapted a big brain for a reason*; what we do with it is up to us, not evolution. We're not the only ones. Chimps have been known to exterminate each other. Spider monkeys. Ants (which have the largest brain in proportion to size).

Again, we're not special in this.


* and what would that be?



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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definitely a good start. there are also unexplored shafts in the Giza pyramid and stuff buried all around there. There is something in the Bible Code that says there is something metallic buried under the mud in the southern part of the Dead Sea. Could have to do with the atomic blast on the Sinai Peninsula, scars of which are still visible. There are also supposed to be tunnels in Jerusalem from when it was a space port. Lots of interesting things out there.




posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
That's the whole point, you merely know what people back then BELIEVED based on their limited knowledge. The Mayans believed Cortes was a god too, doesn't mean he was


I think you're confusing objective evidence with subjective evidence...the latter is clearly not reliable


Those are some really silly comments and have no bearing on anything.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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A chimp breaks off a long grass stalk or a reed so she may use it later, hundreds of meters away, more than an hour in the future, to lure delectable termites out of a log or termite mound. She must remove superfluous leaves and twigs, shape it, shorten it, insert it into the termite tunnel with a deft twisting motion to follow the interior contours, shake it seductively to attract termites onto it, and then with great care remove it without scraping off too many. Chimps take years to perfect their technique and routinely teach it to their young, who are avid pupils. This exactly satisfies one confident definition of "the uniqueness of man's toolmaking"-namely, "the fashioning, out of natural materials, of an implement designed to be used at a distant time and on objects not now perceptually present."

www.mesacc.edu...




Now see this is exactly what I have been trying to get in detail all along.
How could evolution have been so smart, to evolve us into something that it knows will have an acceptable food diet. Now I would argue till my death that we in fact do not have our correct diet, therefore, we didn't evolve correctly anyhow. My point is that it's just not possible. We are far from eating termites, and If that diet was so fitting, why did we decided to leave it?
There is honestly no excuse for any of it. You guys are trying to convince me that we had a good thing going on, we decided to leave that behind for the plethora of issues we deal with on a daily basis. It would appear there is a creator behind the decision making to know what to evolve us into, to make sure we would have food. Is there some type of theory to fill this giant gap on what we are suppose to eat? Or do we just become scavangers? I doubt it because 99.99% of the things here on earth have a suited diet. I guess we just wernt smart enough when we evolved.

I go back to the example of the anteater. How is it that he evolved from something else, and has this well fitted diet? How is it that he is additionally equiped for hunting ants as well, the claws, the nose, the tounge? What exactly did we get equiped for? What are we suppose to eat? Keep in mind that humans are part of the .009% that don't fit in with diet. We have allready discussed the strong need for dairy in our diet, just as an example. As we get older, scientists have realized that we in fact need to comsume more than we did at birth.

My personal observation was the opposite but I'm going off a doctors chart here. So back to the point. WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSE TO GET OUR DAIRY? Because we all agree not moms teat. And you cant say other fruits and veggies because they actually give less than sardines. The highest source was processed cheese on Pizza. Now if we were suppose to harvest and eat sardines, we wouldn't make it because of the shelf life and we had no fancy fishing gear, and we couldn't possibly expect to fish everyday until we catch one.

We would have to gorge ourselves on fruits and vegitables to get our RDA that way. In addition, each that I'm speaking of is unique to certain parts of the globe. For example, orange juice is a FAIR source of calcium, so after processing it into juice and consuming a lot of it, I might get the RDA. On top of all of this, MOST sources aren't available everywhere (naturaly) that we live, so how were we suppose to get them? I guess long distant delivery and high tech food processing must have been all part of our evolution. You guys have to be kidding me.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Christians speak of heaven too...doesn't mean it exists

That's the whole point, you merely know what people back then BELIEVED based on their limited knowledge. The Mayans believed Cortes was a god too, doesn't mean he was

I think you're confusing objective evidence with subjective evidence...the latter is clearly not reliable
Thats because your once again reading it incorrectly. Heaven is actually another planet and from the best I can figure out, its OUR HOME planet. If you read hebrews it makes it very clear that earth is NOT our home and people complaining because there are far better planets we could have been dumped on.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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No...all his claims are fiction because he never bothered to back them up with facts and objective evidence

And if something is not backed up by evidence, it's fiction...made up...a "nice story".
You mean in the same way that you are contesting what he has presented. I don't see you coming up with anything that proves him wrong, your just saying hes wrong.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
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lol,never little dude.
i was told it will be quick,but this is in the far future.



Okay, well just keep me updated if you can?


Hey, have you been doing any astral projecting as of late?

I ask this cuz...

Last night our cable box for the TV turned off on its own, but we were still able to watch TV. The remote didn't work. This went on for about an hour. Then the box came back on and everything returned to normal.

This morning we all woke up to banging at our front door. Then it stopped. When we opened up the door. No one was around. Minutes later the smoke detectors all went off for no reason.

Then I noticed a piece of paper that had been on the floor the night before that I had been too lazy to pick up was sitting on my desk where a lotto ticket was, and the lotto ticket was on the floor where piece of paper was laying.


Nothing strange like those events have happened for awhile. Last time things like that happened you and Arnie were able to tell me what kind of walls I had, "Remember "yellow?" and then you posted an emoticon eating ice cream when I had just gone into the kitchen to do just that. You also told me I was going to sleep when I was planning to go somewhere. The plans fell through and I did just that. A few other things like that happened too as I remember. So when strange unexplainable things happen around me you and your astral pals are the first who come to mind.

To be honest and truthful with you lil dude,i called it astral because it was the closest thing in your human teachings of this,so i just said what was close to what you might understand.

I have now giving it my own name and my own explanation to what im doind.
i have giving it the name...'REALM JUMPING'.

GUESS WHAT LILDUDE?LOL

I CAN NOW FAR SEE,LMAF.

The same way a person meditates and reaches that point is the same way im starting to farsee now,its ^%$#@$% amazing.

rule1.meditate
rule2.reach that last level of meditation.
rule 3. lmaf...and think of you looking in a 'Telescope'OHHHHHH MYYY GOSH. and i dont need to go in the rabbits hole that much.

copywritten by LGH27

another thing happend lil dude.
This is on my kids and my higher power what im about to tell you.

3months ago when i was wide awoke..................i saw my self jump out my body...go completly around the living room table...and i entered my body through my back.this door i opened up is.........not real,not real at all.
out of all the stuff that i can do that sh&^ scared the hell out me.

That should answer your above questions....SORRY LIL dude for envading your privacy....just trying to get the hang of this....what ever i will call it in the near future.

i checked myself into a crazy home 2 months ago after it happened,but as i sat in the room with the lady i discovered that she was acually looking at me as if i was crazy.

she asked me in a sarcastic way'ARE YOU OKAY,DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS?' 'EXPLANING TO HER ABOUT THE OUTER BODY AROUND THE TABLE THING'

I COULDNT DO IT BECAUSE I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO D IT AT THAT TIME AT WILL OR ON MY OWN.

LMAF.
So i said.

you baby sitter lets your kids do what they want to do,me personnely i think you should take the swing out your back yard, i have no idea why she would let your kids out side,but your husband just came home,so everything should be ok.

She looked behind her to see if i was looking at some pictures and she asked me...Have you been here before have we ever talked before?

i said no,its a new thing i know how to do using a telescope for guidence,she called her house to see if the kids was just out side and if her husband just came home,she told me to wait a minute and she would be right back.

i already knew what that meant,so i left.

once again sorry unc.

my new test lil dude is to see if i can carry an object in my travles,i have tried with no success.The more i start to open up other doors ,the more i start to lose the simple abilities of every day human life.

words are starting to look like symblos
my writting is getting worst.
i wake up some times and all around me including my body looks like this

you see the number secuences and how it moves?thats whats starting to happen to me....except its red,or dark burgundy red,or...burgundy reddish plum color but bright.its a strange red,dont understand completly what color it is.

whats happening to me lildude?

I went to a priest a little while ago and explained ,and also showed him what i could do,he jumped up and crossed his fingers into the cross sign and told me that i was the anti christ and to get out.
its sad to tell you...it wasnt the first time someone jumped up and did that.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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Evolution is NOT for making organisms better. It just has processes that eliminate those that cannot survive.

Humans do NOT need dairy. It is NOT a requirement in our diet. Modern society does NOT reflect evolutionary adaptation to an environment, due to our construction of our own environments. We are not specialized creatures, and that is why we are able to eat a variety of foods.

Seriously, read those books I asked you read. They'll answer your questions and correct all this stupid stuff you keep saying.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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Here we are 120 pages and Itsthooth still spouts the half witted nonsense he did on page one.

Yet again your selective reading of something is spun around to make it fit a product that no one wants. You maintain in other posts your willing to learn yet admit a total closed mind by saying you will argue against evolution till the day you die. Closed minded ignorance means you learn nothing. You are a wonderful example of that. Blind faith in a liar to allow you to blame aliens for your disappointment in your own life.

And so you return to the lame brained, our diet is missing, we don’t fit because ant eaters eat ants. You have no idea of what evolution tells you at all have you? Evolution tells and shows you it evolved to become a specialist
but you will argue against this till the day you die despite what you are shown. The hear no evidence monkey rules in your life.

Again you say other animals lead some ideal life where food drops at their feet and illness is only something they see when a misfit human passes by. Do you spend you life in blinkers? a blind man see's more than you. One documentary on survival will give you graphic evidence that what you maintain is the truth is childish denial of reality. The see no evidence monkey is never left out of your argument.

You again bring up #e about dairy. The reason why a varied diet is healthy is because that’s is how we get a balanced nutritional diet. But you spin it around to say we don’t fit because we have a varied diet. There should be a forth monkey. The lobotomized monkey.

You then go on with your half brained idea that we cannot get the correct diet because we live in the wrong places and cherry pick food types to suit. You have the cheek to write about a prehistoric delivery service? You that has no grasp on history either.

For you information, and I suppose you will take no notice at all. Humans were not spread worldwide. As we evolved and our knowledge grew we went from hunter gatherers, and that includes scavenging. We then became farmers that means we grow our own food. This meant we expanded in numbers. How is that so hard for you to picture when you can delude yourself with evil Aliens that kidnap other beings and dot them around the universe. A universe where every planet has a balanced eco system. Bloody lucky they never dropped us off on Venus or mercury.

As I said before anything you now say is taken with a pinch of salt as your refusal to hold Pye to the same rules as you do evolution makes you bankrupt in both intellect and honesty.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy

Originally posted by MrXYZ
That's the whole point, you merely know what people back then BELIEVED based on their limited knowledge. The Mayans believed Cortes was a god too, doesn't mean he was


I think you're confusing objective evidence with subjective evidence...the latter is clearly not reliable


Those are some really silly comments and have no bearing on anything.


I think you're confusing me with Pye. Also, what part exactly is silly? All I'm saying is that Pye doesn't back up his claims with hard facts and objective evidence...which is the TRUTH!



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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No...all his claims are fiction because he never bothered to back them up with facts and objective evidence

And if something is not backed up by evidence, it's fiction...made up...a "nice story".
You mean in the same way that you are contesting what he has presented. I don't see you coming up with anything that proves him wrong, your just saying hes wrong.


Well, in some cases he's demonstrably wrong as the only public data we have on the skull is 100% human without any alien components. The rest are his baseless claims that he refuses to back up with facts and real data.


So not only is he wrong, he also refuses to prove himself right by publishing data



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